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To feel inconvenienced by a tragic accident?

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OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 11:36

I'm currently in Italy (staying in Rome) for three nights. It's my first foreign break in a warm country and I've been so excited and saved up especially.

We booked an excursion for today consisting of a trip to Sorrento where we'd spend time exploring, visiting shops and enjoying local food - and then on to Pompeii on the route back.

We've spent the whole morning/day so far stuck in traffic on the motor way. We are so behind schedule we can now no longer go to Sorrento first because Pompeii closes at 5.30 and there won't be time. A sit down restaurant meal will now be replaced by a takeaway which will be eaten on the coach.

We've just been told the cause of the traffic jam and it's because somebody has died in a collision on the motorway.

Instead of feeling saddened about the loss of life I just feel inconvenienced and pissed off that the highlight of my trip has been ruined.

Does this make me a shitty person? It just occurred that it might 😳

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BondAway25 · 11/08/2025 15:13

Grealish · 11/08/2025 13:04

Yes it’s okay to be annoyed at the inconvenience - however, I think the overwhelming feeling should be gratefulness that the worst news you got today is that you won’t get to stop off in Sorrento and not that someone you love has died in a tragic accident.

Yes. This.

personally, I thinks it's quite concerning not to feel ANY sadness or any gratitude it was you or a loved one in the accident and ONLY to feel pissed off about how it has affected you.

the tour company is clearly ONLY interested in £££ though & they sold you a lemon. That was never going to be a good day anytime of year, let alone August. If you have anything else booked with them I'd cancel. I know you are sad to have missed Sorrento. But honestly it's very much a tourist driven place & you haven't missed much. If you have anything else booked time left, explore the local villages, a much better experience.

Cyclebabble · 11/08/2025 15:12

I think it is possible to feel both inconvenienced and sad for the individual at the same time. As a commuter into London for many years, there were so many times I got stuck where someone had jumped in front of a train. It is horrible to think of them and the driver, but equally can take hours to get home.

Fluffypotatoe123987 · 11/08/2025 15:11

Im going to italy again this week for 3 nights 4 days. 2 in garda and 1 night in Venice. Use the trains.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 11/08/2025 15:11

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Usernamenotavailable19 · 11/08/2025 15:08

I think you need to get over yourself

Sunaquarius · 11/08/2025 15:06

No, not unless you take action on those thoughts.

It is annoying to have your holiday, which you've paid for, disrupted by someone you don't know dying, but yeah obviously someone dying and all the chaos around it is justified and way more important than your feelings in this situation.
There are going to be people experiencing way worse than "annoying" because a relative has died so you have to shut up and tolerate it, but yeah it is annoying.

As long as your annoyed in private, it's fine. I wouldn't waste your time judging yourself over how you feel.

If on the other hand, it was your friend who died and you felt annoyed that your holiday was disrupted I would judge you yes, but the reality is that most humans are not emotionally attached to complete strangers, this is normal.

WhatNoRaisins · 11/08/2025 15:05

I've never lost anyone in a tragic accident myself but I wonder does it really help the loved ones to know that total strangers who they don't know and will never interact with are feeling more sad than inconvenienced? I don't see how it would make any difference.

Justchilling07 · 11/08/2025 15:05

anythingbutlillies · 11/08/2025 14:28

This is what I was going to say.
Don't beat yourself up OP.

She’s not, just annoyed her holiday didn’t go to plan.

PoppyRoseBucky · 11/08/2025 15:05

Honestly, you're not unreasonable for feeling a bit disappointed about your trip. That's a normal, natural emotion when things don't go the way you hoped they would.

However, this is where you need to take a step back and get some perspective. You've missed out on some of your trip-someone else has died and their loved ones will be receiving the news that they won't be coming home ever again.

It's not about grieving for every person that dies or even feeling sad about it-most people don't/won't feel much when someone they don't know dies-but you shouldn't be broadcasting the fact that you're more bothered about a trip that you can, one day, take again than about someone else losing their life.

It's not about grieving for that person-but about acknowledging that there are worse things that can happen to a person, i.e., dying, than having your trip ruined because someone else died. Oh, no, did they decide to die on the day you decided to go on your trip? How dare they. Don't they know who you are?

Feel disappointed about your trip-but JFC, get some damn perspective.

stichguru · 11/08/2025 15:03

It's not like you are having to interact with it. Like if you were asked should emergency services investigate the accident, or move quickly so you could proceed meaning that the dead person's family never got to know why the died, and you chose the second you'd be utter scum, but nothing you think will help or hinder the person or those that loved them.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 11/08/2025 15:01

Coconutter24 · 11/08/2025 14:24

You ask if it makes you a shitty person, yes it does and a whole lot more. Yes it’s ok to be disappointed but inconvenienced by someone else dying is a horrible way to think. That person will never get to see another day, another day trip, another beach, another anything and you’re inconvenienced because you can’t go on a day trip? Have a word with yourself, go another day and if you can’t during this holiday book another holiday, think yourself lucky you have that option and haven’t just died in a tragic accident!!

How do you get through the day ?

PassOnThat · 11/08/2025 14:59

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WhatNoRaisins · 11/08/2025 14:59

Am I the only one wondering where the Mumsnet empaths are today?

maudelovesharold · 11/08/2025 14:58

Well, at least you’ve lived to potentially see Sorrento another day, unlike the poor person in the accident.

stichguru · 11/08/2025 14:58

I think it is perfectly normal to feel something primarily or only in the way it affects you. Logically a number of people die everyday, so should we spend everyday mourning throughout our lives? The only thing that would be wrong is if you acted on the fact you don't really care this person is dead in a way that affected others who were affected by the death. Yelling at emergency services to move, or a funeral procession to hurry up for example.

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 11/08/2025 14:58

ChocolateCinderToffee · 11/08/2025 14:10

Put it like this, I have had my plans interrupted several times because of 'a person on the line' between where I live and London and my first thought is how awful for the train driver and the people on the train.

Pompeii and Sorrento will still be there for another time.

Or, given that studies show Vesuvius to be overdue for another eruption, maybe not. Those calling the OP out on her lack of empathy will be doing a lot of grieving that day.

EvenHungrierHippo · 11/08/2025 14:57

There are a lot of grief thief types on mumsnet OP. Those will be the ones telling you that you are a terrible person.

kim204 · 11/08/2025 14:57

I'm with you OP, why would you feel sad about someone you've never met, don't know the name of and have never seen even a picture of. Some people must spend all their lives feeling sad because there are over 1500 people dying in crashes a year in the UK. I hope they're all feeling sad for all them.

This was your first trip abroad somewhere warm, it was for a very short time that you'd saved up for and there was a very specific thing you really wanted to do. Of course this was more important to you than what was going on in someone you don't knows life - even if the thing that was going on was tragic.

N3wUs3rNam3Again · 11/08/2025 14:56

I'm a little like the OP I get mighty fucked off by all the crashes that both hold me up and those I read about when often the cause is some twat driving like an inpatient or dangerous idiot to get where they want to faster, normally taking the life of some innocent driver, a family or their passengers.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 11/08/2025 14:56

LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 14:54

Why start a post about it?

Why start a post about anything?

Happyher · 11/08/2025 14:55

You can’t help how you feel but sometimes it’s best to keep those feelings to yourself. The world would be a nicer place if people did this more often

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 11/08/2025 14:55

Hoppinggreen · 11/08/2025 14:43

I agree, its not like OP was standing over his corpse screaming "get up you fucker I want to see Pompei"
Of course she is disappointed, most people would be

Sorry, but this made me laugh out loud. Does that make me a shitty person ?!!

LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 14:54

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 11/08/2025 14:51

I just don't think that the op is obliged to chalk up her frustration out of some sense of duty to feel sad about the death of somebody that she doesn't know.

Nor do I think that those who are pretending that they would sit in traffic ruminating on the fragility of life rather than expressing some frustration that their short, first holiday was going to shit before them are achieving anything.

Why start a post about it?

Lovelysausagedogscrumpy · 11/08/2025 14:54

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And unless/until it does happen to a member of one’s own family, it’s unreasonable to take on grieving for someone you don’t know. This has clearly happened to you, judging by your strong reaction, and I’m so sorry for that, but it’s irrelevant to the context of the comment.

incognitomouse · 11/08/2025 14:53

I wouldn't feel any sadness towards a stranger either, so if that makes me a shitty person so be it.

OP, like you, I'd be mildly annoyed at the inconvenience - whatever the reason for it.

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