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To feel inconvenienced by a tragic accident?

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OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 11:36

I'm currently in Italy (staying in Rome) for three nights. It's my first foreign break in a warm country and I've been so excited and saved up especially.

We booked an excursion for today consisting of a trip to Sorrento where we'd spend time exploring, visiting shops and enjoying local food - and then on to Pompeii on the route back.

We've spent the whole morning/day so far stuck in traffic on the motor way. We are so behind schedule we can now no longer go to Sorrento first because Pompeii closes at 5.30 and there won't be time. A sit down restaurant meal will now be replaced by a takeaway which will be eaten on the coach.

We've just been told the cause of the traffic jam and it's because somebody has died in a collision on the motorway.

Instead of feeling saddened about the loss of life I just feel inconvenienced and pissed off that the highlight of my trip has been ruined.

Does this make me a shitty person? It just occurred that it might 😳

OP posts:
OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:47

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 17:46

You really are a delight, aren't you?

I have my moments.

OP posts:
Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 17:46

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:29

Some of the replies have really made me laugh so thanks for that. No, not the posts from people talking about having lost loved ones.

"Get up you fucker, I want to see Pompeii!" Is gold.

I do find it odd how mumsnet is KNOWN for being full of snippy and cold posters, especially on AIBU, yet suddenly the forum is full of fluffy super empaths who feel the pain of every Tom Dick and Harry who've ever lost somebody or a cat within the span of 10 countries.

Personally I think lots of you are full of shit (people who relate to the accident/death aside) because I've seen a fair few of your names before being rude as hell to other OP's 🤣

For those asking why I started the thread, I was stuck on the motorway with nothing better to do. HTH

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You really are a delight, aren't you?

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 17:45

EvenHungrierHippo · 11/08/2025 17:26

Oh dear. You’re asking if people are thick when you have got the thread all wrong. It wasn’t suicide, it was a car accident. And saying.’committed’ suicide could upset people, it’s not the socially acceptable way to word it now. Keep virtue signalling, whilst getting so much wrong though. 🙄

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She knows it was a car crash. She was referencing the post that mentioned suicide.
Have you read the full thread at all?

EvenHungrierHippo · 11/08/2025 17:45

Arlanymor · 11/08/2025 17:39

I wrote my responses from the perspective of someone who had two family members knocked off the side of a mountain road by a drunk driver in the days before the Heads of the Valleys was redesigned. Everybody died. Some people got held up for an hour or two. No virtue signalling or fake empathy here - it’s a gruelling thing for all concerned, emergency services included, and a delay to plans, even holiday ones, is incredibly minor in the grand scheme of things…

It is, but people are still allowed to think of themselves and its human nature to do so. I also say that as someone that lost a relative to a drunk driver 20 years ago, causing a road closure, and as the friend of someone who died by suicide in a way which caused a delay of many hours for some people on Xmas Eve. People are allowed to put themselves first and are entitled to have feelings if they miss out on something because of something like this. I’m sure OP wishes the person hadn’t died, but other than that, life goes on.

LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 17:41

EvenHungrierHippo · 11/08/2025 17:36

Yes you did. And it seems you have had your post deleted because it was a personal attack. It’s funny that the people who try to come across as nice, so often aren’t.

I have more compassion in my big toe than some of you have in your whole body.

The only thing I got wrong was the word I used for someone choosing to end their life. Which I apologise for.

I knew how the person died in the original post so stop making things up.

SparklesGlitter · 11/08/2025 17:39

erm…yes??? Someone has died and a family has lost a loved one. I probably would not have posted about this 🤷🏻‍♀️ I assume you’ll get reimbursed for the lack of a trip. Just thank your lucky stars that your coach wasn’t caught up in it and that you’re still on holiday

AmateurDramatics · 11/08/2025 17:39

Anothercoffeeafter3 · 11/08/2025 17:33

That was my entire point in the days of modern technology like dash cams + black boxes we don’t need hours of investigations we need the road open. If you don’t want to have a dash cam and someone crashes into you then sorry but it’s doesn’t mean the road should be closed for hours. “Justice” isn’t going to bring them back anyway.

If you are opening one lane you can wave the stuck traffic past at less than 10mph if your car can’t drive over a damaged road surface at that speed it shouldn’t be on the road!

Imagine you miss your sisters or your kids wedding because your stuck in an accident that is going upset you, a missed investigation isn’t even going to register.

😂 ok then

Arlanymor · 11/08/2025 17:39

I wrote my responses from the perspective of someone who had two family members knocked off the side of a mountain road by a drunk driver in the days before the Heads of the Valleys was redesigned. Everybody died. Some people got held up for an hour or two. No virtue signalling or fake empathy here - it’s a gruelling thing for all concerned, emergency services included, and a delay to plans, even holiday ones, is incredibly minor in the grand scheme of things…

SuperTrooper1111 · 11/08/2025 17:38

First post always nails it.

Charltonstrek · 11/08/2025 17:38

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 11:43

I thought so. Damn what a wake up call.

Can you re plan the trip

whiteroseredrose · 11/08/2025 17:37

No YANBU. When I worked in London albeit decades ago, a couple of times people jumped in front of the tube in the morning rush hour. People were furious that they were going to miss an interview/be late for work.

Its human nature.

An RTA isn’t necessarily an accident. Someone will probably have been driving like a dick for it to have happened.

EvenHungrierHippo · 11/08/2025 17:36

LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 17:33

No I didnt get it wrong. See above 😊.

Yes you did. And it seems you have had your post deleted because it was a personal attack. It’s funny that the people who try to come across as nice, so often aren’t.

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:36

Justchilling07 · 11/08/2025 17:33

Posting about suicide on here and laughing about it, that’s what’s been posted on this thread, was going to quote, what some posters have said, but they’ve been deleted, for a reason.This has been driven by op’s thread and also the way she’s spoken to other posters.
I couldn’t care less that you’re getting frustrated, that other posters are disagreeing with op and opinions like yours🙄

Oh give it a rest Doris. Nobody here has laughed about suicide at all. It's awful that you are making such allegations.

OP posts:
Justchilling07 · 11/08/2025 17:33

EvenHungrierHippo · 11/08/2025 16:54

Oh FFS, it’s not inappropriate. OP isn’t saying this to the family of the person that died, she’s writing on an anonymous forum. People are allowed to think of themselves and virtue signallers are far more annoying, pretending they’re truly upset about the death of strangers. They may think it’s sad, but their life carries on, yet they come here to tell others off. 🙄

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Posting about suicide on here and laughing about it, that’s what’s been posted on this thread, was going to quote, what some posters have said, but they’ve been deleted, for a reason.This has been driven by op’s thread and also the way she’s spoken to other posters.
I couldn’t care less that you’re getting frustrated, that other posters are disagreeing with op and opinions like yours🙄

LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 17:33

EvenHungrierHippo · 11/08/2025 17:26

Oh dear. You’re asking if people are thick when you have got the thread all wrong. It wasn’t suicide, it was a car accident. And saying.’committed’ suicide could upset people, it’s not the socially acceptable way to word it now. Keep virtue signalling, whilst getting so much wrong though. 🙄

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No I didnt get it wrong. See above 😊.

Anothercoffeeafter3 · 11/08/2025 17:33

AmateurDramatics · 11/08/2025 17:09

@Anothercoffeeafter3 You’re forgetting the thorough investigation that’s needed after an accident as well as sometime damage to the road and road furniture to make it safe for others. 2 hours is nothing!!

Remember the people in the jam may also be devastated at missing once in a life time events such as weddings which can be just as devastating as a death.

Also… what have I just read?! That’s really tone deaf and frankly a ridiculous statement.

Edited

That was my entire point in the days of modern technology like dash cams + black boxes we don’t need hours of investigations we need the road open. If you don’t want to have a dash cam and someone crashes into you then sorry but it’s doesn’t mean the road should be closed for hours. “Justice” isn’t going to bring them back anyway.

If you are opening one lane you can wave the stuck traffic past at less than 10mph if your car can’t drive over a damaged road surface at that speed it shouldn’t be on the road!

Imagine you miss your sisters or your kids wedding because your stuck in an accident that is going upset you, a missed investigation isn’t even going to register.

LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 17:32

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:20

It wasn't a suicide! It was a car crash.

I know it was.

We were discussing about the posters moaning about suicide and how it held them up.

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:29

Some of the replies have really made me laugh so thanks for that. No, not the posts from people talking about having lost loved ones.

"Get up you fucker, I want to see Pompeii!" Is gold.

I do find it odd how mumsnet is KNOWN for being full of snippy and cold posters, especially on AIBU, yet suddenly the forum is full of fluffy super empaths who feel the pain of every Tom Dick and Harry who've ever lost somebody or a cat within the span of 10 countries.

Personally I think lots of you are full of shit (people who relate to the accident/death aside) because I've seen a fair few of your names before being rude as hell to other OP's 🤣

For those asking why I started the thread, I was stuck on the motorway with nothing better to do. HTH

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EvenHungrierHippo · 11/08/2025 17:26

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Oh dear. You’re asking if people are thick when you have got the thread all wrong. It wasn’t suicide, it was a car accident. And saying.’committed’ suicide could upset people, it’s not the socially acceptable way to word it now. Keep virtue signalling, whilst getting so much wrong though. 🙄

Simplestars · 11/08/2025 17:22

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:20

It wasn't a suicide! It was a car crash.

Someone has lost their loved one in tragic circumstances is all that matters.

RIP

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:20

LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 16:52

It really is an awful thread.

People who commit suicide are nearly always in a very dark place. I've heard of two cases recently where a teenager boy and also a young man with a young family had taken their own lives. I didn't know them but I felt so sad for them and their families.

It wasn't a suicide! It was a car crash.

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LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 17:14

@anothercoffeeafter3 you must really like weddings.

AmateurDramatics · 11/08/2025 17:09

@Anothercoffeeafter3 You’re forgetting the thorough investigation that’s needed after an accident as well as sometime damage to the road and road furniture to make it safe for others. 2 hours is nothing!!

Remember the people in the jam may also be devastated at missing once in a life time events such as weddings which can be just as devastating as a death.

Also… what have I just read?! That’s really tone deaf and frankly a ridiculous statement.

Anothercoffeeafter3 · 11/08/2025 17:00

It’s a hard one, thousands die everyday, but then a death other than natural causes is a tragedy for the family. It’s the desire to find blame that drives me bonkers after sitting on the motorway for hours. A conviction isn’t going to bring the person back and it wouldn’t provide me any comfort if it was my family. You have the option of dash cams now which would get the whole incident as evidence if you as a person desire anyone involved in your death to be brought to “justice”.

In my head golden hour for treatment/recovery of the victims. Then 45 minutes to move the vehicles so you get at least one lane in each direction gives a maximum acceptable closure of what 2 hours.

Remember the people in the jam may also be devastated at missing once in a life time events such as weddings which can be just as devastating as a death.

LemonCheesecake2025 · 11/08/2025 17:00

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