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To feel inconvenienced by a tragic accident?

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OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 11:36

I'm currently in Italy (staying in Rome) for three nights. It's my first foreign break in a warm country and I've been so excited and saved up especially.

We booked an excursion for today consisting of a trip to Sorrento where we'd spend time exploring, visiting shops and enjoying local food - and then on to Pompeii on the route back.

We've spent the whole morning/day so far stuck in traffic on the motor way. We are so behind schedule we can now no longer go to Sorrento first because Pompeii closes at 5.30 and there won't be time. A sit down restaurant meal will now be replaced by a takeaway which will be eaten on the coach.

We've just been told the cause of the traffic jam and it's because somebody has died in a collision on the motorway.

Instead of feeling saddened about the loss of life I just feel inconvenienced and pissed off that the highlight of my trip has been ruined.

Does this make me a shitty person? It just occurred that it might 😳

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XenoBitch · 11/08/2025 19:10

I can understand why you wold be annoyed, but you can rebook and go another time. It is going to have no lasting implications for you, and I bet you will have forgotten about it in a few years anyway.
Meanwhile, there is a family out there that have received tragic and life changing news. This date will be etched in their minds forever.

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 19:09

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:01

It's not guilt tripping.
It's more a case of trying to wipe the smug smiles off the faces of the clever arseholes commenting on here.
To put it in raw context, if you like.
I'm not competing with anyone.
Just explaining how some people on here are seriously pissing me off.
And even after giving context someone felt they had to make a snarky comment.
Mumsnet really is full of twats.

It is guilt tripping and it’s attention seeking behaviour. You are trying to make them feel bad. Why do you need other people to feel bad? Any care wouldn’t be real or have any depth anyway, their life won’t stop in the way that I’m sure yours did when you lost your BIL and mine did when I lost my uncle. Despite losing my uncle in an RTA, I still feel pissed when I get delayed due to an accident. We can’t be upset for everyone, we’d never cope with life.

ThreePointOneFourOneFiveNine · 11/08/2025 19:08

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 18:44

There is no difference. There will be plenty of people who have lost a loved one in an RTA (I have myself, actually) who aren’t virtue signalling.
Its the handwringing and gross display of the moral high ground that’s the virtue signalling bit - over something that literally doesn’t even affect you.

Telling the OP she is a terrible person for being disappointed that her day trip was essentially ruined. Of course she was disappointed, some of you are behaving as though that makes her evil when it’s a perfectly normal thing to feel.

Perfectly normal to feel disappointed yes. To feel nothing but disappointment in this situation is actually pretty horrible. In her position I would be disappointed, but I would mainly be sad for the people affected by the accident and very aware of how lucky I was that it wasn’t me. That’s not virtue signaling, it’s the truth. It’s called empathy, something the OP appears to lack.

Also, if the trip was that important to her she should have planned better. It was a ridiculous amount to try to fit into one day with all that travel. Any number of things could have gone wrong to ruin it.

Clementina49er · 11/08/2025 19:08

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 17:20

It wasn't a suicide! It was a car crash.

Here you go: a 55 year old woman who was a pillion passenger on a motorcycle driven by her husband died when she was flung off it in a collision with a car: the husband is in intensive care. If you can bear to look there is a photo of the bike!

https://www.nanotv.it/2025/08/11/torre-annunziata-scavi-grave-incidente-alluscita-dellautostrada-morta-una-donna/

Does that make you feel a bit less cheesed off?

Torre Annunziata Scavi, grave incidente all’uscita dell’autostrada: morta una donna

Torre Annunziata. Grave incidente lungo l’autostrada Napoli-Salerno in direzione sud, all’altezza dell’uscita Torre Annunziata Scavi...

https://www.nanotv.it/2025/08/11/torre-annunziata-scavi-grave-incidente-alluscita-dellautostrada-morta-una-donna/

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 11/08/2025 19:05

ClosetBasketCase · 11/08/2025 16:45

Not unreasonble. I feel like it every damn week on the motorway i'm on. If its not some prat (usually the same one) trying to throw themselves off the motorway bridge, or walking down the motorway - on one occasion saying they'll off themselves if their girlfriend doesn't get back together with them, then its the wretched highway maintenence playing silly buggers with incident management and keeping the road shut for hours when there isnt even a fatality - and when there is? god knows they keep it shut for far longer than neccessary.

I'm totally with you. especially on a trip like that!

(No, this is not a reverse answer, no it it not satire etc - and also for referance - I have both been and had family in the bridge situation - and its actually made me even less empathetic than i was before. Now it just messes up my day and pisses me off. even more so as they usually walk past the bloody hospital to get to that thrice forsaken bridge!)

Some pratt whose life has fallen apart and whose mind must be an absolute turmoil. I prAy you’re never there!

N3wUs3rNam3Again · 11/08/2025 19:04

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 18:16

There is a term that exists - I hope someone can remember what it is - that demonstrates that those who make a big performance out of ‘caring’ are usually the ones that you need to watch out for

Yes I have a family member like this, they make out to the whole world they're kind and caring , maybe they are to some people, but in my opinion to the wrong people, they're absolutely vile to family, she's actually a nasty abusive bitch.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:03

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Also, do you feel better for that?

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 19:01

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 18:57

I really can’t stand it when people try to guilt trip others. We all know people who have been through stuff and some of us have gone through it ourselves. I have and I’d never guilt trip someone else for thinking of themselves because it’s normal. The fact is, OP doesn’t know these people, she didn’t know the circumstances, if the person had family, children etc and when that’s the case, there is less sympathy because it’s is just an anonymous person. We wouldn’t cope if we started imagining who these people are, the fact they might have children and being upset at every tragic story we heard. We look after our own and others do the same.

It's not guilt tripping.
It's more a case of trying to wipe the smug smiles off the faces of the clever arseholes commenting on here.
To put it in raw context, if you like.
I'm not competing with anyone.
Just explaining how some people on here are seriously pissing me off.
And even after giving context someone felt they had to make a snarky comment.
Mumsnet really is full of twats.

popcornpower2025 · 11/08/2025 18:58

Things can be more than one thing at a same time.

I live near an A road that accidents happen on all the time. The only way that can really happen is for at least one car in the accident to be driving dangerously and I'm fucking sick of it tbh. Things can be sad and tragic and also ruin your day due to the disruption

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 18:57

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I really can’t stand it when people try to guilt trip others. We all know people who have been through stuff and some of us have gone through it ourselves. I have and I’d never guilt trip someone else for thinking of themselves because it’s normal. The fact is, OP doesn’t know these people, she didn’t know the circumstances, if the person had family, children etc and when that’s the case, there is less sympathy because it’s is just an anonymous person. We wouldn’t cope if we started imagining who these people are, the fact they might have children and being upset at every tragic story we heard. We look after our own and others do the same.

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 18:54

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I'm not looking for sympathy, just giving perspective from the flip side.
You know where you can shove your Oscar.

Charltonstrek · 11/08/2025 18:54

Justchilling07 · 11/08/2025 18:40

A sense of humour, on this topic, you think it’s funny
Well if it’s ok with you, not everyone agree’s with you, that this thread is humorous.

You think my sense of humour is directed at the heart of this topic or the ops comeback think about it

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 18:53

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 18:45

My uncle died in a RTA. The road was closed for about 10 hours. If I had read this at the time, I would still have rolled my eyes at posters telling the OP that she is wrong to be disappointed about her plans being changed. My uncle was important to our family and friends, but not to anyone else. I wouldn’t have wanted sympathy from strangers because I know they don’t really care. Their life continued despite any online condolences or emojis they put online. I’d rather they didn’t bother. My uncle would have been the first to moan about being delayed.

This sums up precisely how I feel having been in a similar situation myself. Not everything is a opportunity to compete on grief!

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 18:52

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Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 18:49

Charltonstrek · 11/08/2025 18:22

Nah just a sense of humour

Here's something for you to laugh at then, seeing as you're finding this thread humerous.
My brother in law, who was killed in an accident, had just got married and had a newborn baby. He was 29. Whole life ahead of him. His mother died four years later probably from the massive effect grief had on her. His child will never know him.
The accident was not his fault.
He was just driving to work.
A bit of context can make quite a difference.
These faceless people who have the audacity to hold up traffic and ruin someone's holiday plans are someone's son, daughter, mother, father.
Until you've been through it yourself, and I sincerely hope you never have to go through anything like this, you'll never begin to understand how laughing emojis and snarky replies will affect a person.

MalcolmMoo · 11/08/2025 18:47

Tbf in the short term I’d fee angry and inconvenienced but I think I’d get over it in a few minutes and reflect on how lucky I was to not be involved in an accident.

OneAmberFinch · 11/08/2025 18:45

Doseofreality · 11/08/2025 18:30

Not at all.

Flip it. Someone post’s on here that their OH was killed driving to work and they saw a comment on Facebook from someone moaning that their day had been ruined because of the resulting traffic delays. Everyone would be outraged and sympathising with the poster.

It's Mumsnet - they'd be lecturing the poster about how everyone has their own lives to live and while their loss is tragic, it's dreadfully self-centred to expect random strangers to care, and besides probably the FB poster was a single mum trying to get to work to make money for her three disabled children etc etc so focus on your own life, OP, kindly...

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 18:45

AmateurDramatics · 11/08/2025 18:38

Unsure how those going on about virtue signalling can differentiate people who have lived through the hell of losing a loved one in an RTA from those who haven’t? Some of us are sadly talking from lived experience.

It’s an easy insult to chuck around I guess 🤷‍♀️

My uncle died in a RTA. The road was closed for about 10 hours. If I had read this at the time, I would still have rolled my eyes at posters telling the OP that she is wrong to be disappointed about her plans being changed. My uncle was important to our family and friends, but not to anyone else. I wouldn’t have wanted sympathy from strangers because I know they don’t really care. Their life continued despite any online condolences or emojis they put online. I’d rather they didn’t bother. My uncle would have been the first to moan about being delayed.

WhereIsMyJumper · 11/08/2025 18:44

AmateurDramatics · 11/08/2025 18:38

Unsure how those going on about virtue signalling can differentiate people who have lived through the hell of losing a loved one in an RTA from those who haven’t? Some of us are sadly talking from lived experience.

It’s an easy insult to chuck around I guess 🤷‍♀️

There is no difference. There will be plenty of people who have lost a loved one in an RTA (I have myself, actually) who aren’t virtue signalling.
Its the handwringing and gross display of the moral high ground that’s the virtue signalling bit - over something that literally doesn’t even affect you.

Telling the OP she is a terrible person for being disappointed that her day trip was essentially ruined. Of course she was disappointed, some of you are behaving as though that makes her evil when it’s a perfectly normal thing to feel.

Justchilling07 · 11/08/2025 18:40

Charltonstrek · 11/08/2025 18:22

Nah just a sense of humour

A sense of humour, on this topic, you think it’s funny
Well if it’s ok with you, not everyone agree’s with you, that this thread is humorous.

OnemargarIta · 11/08/2025 18:40

Letmehaveabloodyusernameplease · 11/08/2025 18:30

A bit like this thread.

And this ornament I have just bore witness to in a shop.

To feel inconvenienced by a tragic accident?
OP posts:
AmateurDramatics · 11/08/2025 18:38

Unsure how those going on about virtue signalling can differentiate people who have lived through the hell of losing a loved one in an RTA from those who haven’t? Some of us are sadly talking from lived experience.

It’s an easy insult to chuck around I guess 🤷‍♀️

Justchilling07 · 11/08/2025 18:35

ThatIsEnoughForOneDay · 11/08/2025 18:32

You are not unreasonable OP. It’s human nature to think of ourselves. When you have been looking forward to something and something stops it happening, the disappointment can be overwhelming.

Ignore the virtue signallers.

Another one parroting the same old term.How very original of you.

larkstar · 11/08/2025 18:33

No. I don't think so but what I'd suggest in moments like this is learning to then think positively and creatively about how you can make the most of the moment - life is short and you are where you are and it's often not as though you will be back in this same location again so I always think, when sh!t happens - which is normal in life (it doesn't always just happen to other people) - how do I make the most of this moment, this situation - and that might involve you making some quick decisions - you can't do anything about what HAS happened - just learn to accept it, not to dwell on it, and to move on as quickly as possible to think about how you make the most of the situation - life is full of unexpected sh!t that you have no control over. It took me decades to understand this but now I do - I think life is more enjoyable and less frustrating because I've accepted and understood that life is unpredictable - it's better to embrace the reality of life - the uncertainty (imho).

Justchilling07 · 11/08/2025 18:32

NotTerfNorCis · 11/08/2025 18:28

Unnecessary and unfair.

How is that unfair, that’s the reality.