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To think indecision is bloody rude

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AirborneElephant · 10/08/2025 21:11

Have family staying. Love them, but my god they drive me mad. What would you like for breakfast? Whatever you’re having. Would you like to do x today? If you’d like. Would you like tea or coffee? I don’t mind. Do you want chips or salad? Whatever you want. AAAARGH. It’s not polite, it’s rude and passive-aggressive .

Just a rant really, but anyone else find this incredibly annoying?

OP posts:
londongirl12 · 12/08/2025 18:48

That’s my DH. Drives me insane!!!!!

MadeInYorkshire69 · 12/08/2025 18:47

The only time I understand and sympathise with this is in restaurants. Certain family members won’t decide until someone sets the “price point” as they don’t want to look like they are getting a dish that’s too much money. Especially if someone else is paying.

Chinsupmeloves · 12/08/2025 18:35

Just narrow to a choice tea or coffee, cereal or toast, lager or wine? It really is that easy lol 😆

knor · 12/08/2025 18:04

Obv we weren’t there but I don’t think it’s rude or PA, I think it’s just really annoying.
I have a relative like this and I just don’t bother asking him anymore. I just make the plans

KarmenPQZ · 12/08/2025 09:25

You need to preface the questions with the answer you want. Ie ‘I’d like to go here today, do you want to come’. Or ‘I’m boiling the kettle for a cuppa would you like anything’. ‘I was thinking we’d have salad for dinner how does that sound’. And even ‘please can you plan our afternoon outing for today’

I get really bogged down when people ask me to make a lot of decisions on Inga I don’t really care that much about.

Thepeopleversuswork · 12/08/2025 09:22

@Neveragain35

“I don’t mind is not an option” is a phrase I’ve started using in our house, especially with the teenage DC! It can be so infuriating being the one who has to plan the meals, days out etc. It puts a lot of pressure on you, because then if it doesn’t go well or they don’t like it, it kind of feels like your fault because you’re the one who planned it.

When I first met my DP (who is a chronic people pleaser) he was like this: he would always say: "I don't mind" when asked what he wanted to eat. I started saying: "You either have an opinion or you cook your own food. Why don't you pick the easiest of the two options?" That learned him.

Neveragain35 · 12/08/2025 09:21

TitaniasAss · 11/08/2025 09:52

I can't see it as passive aggressive, that seems a bit odd, unless you know that person is deliberately trying to annoy you.

It's annoying sometimes, but if someone asks me if I want tea or coffee in their home I will sometimes say 'whatever you're having' because a) I don't mind one way or the other what I have and don't have a preference and b) my friend has a fancy schmancy coffee machine and I don't want her to have to be fannying about with it for me if she wants tea herself.

But if you want a coffee just tell her! I’m sure she didn’t buy the fancy coffee machine just for herself, she’s probably quite happy to use it!

In that situation I would ask for the coffee and then compliment her profusely on her fancy coffee choices- win/win 😁 (unless you actually do want tea…)

SweetHydrangea · 12/08/2025 09:17

To me it sounds like they don’t want to inconvenience you by asking for something specific so they are basically saying they are happy to have whatever you want to give them.

Maybe just rephrase your question and just say ‘I’m making bacon sandwiches for breakfast, do you want one?’ Rather than ‘what do you want for breakfast?’.

It is exhausting though after a while, just wish people would give a yes or no answer.

Neveragain35 · 12/08/2025 09:12

“I don’t mind is not an option” is a phrase I’ve started using in our house, especially with the teenage DC! It can be so infuriating being the one who has to plan the meals, days out etc. It puts a lot of pressure on you, because then if it doesn’t go well or they don’t like it, it kind of feels like your fault because you’re the one who planned it.

To be fair I think I used to be a bit like this as I am genuinely pretty easygoing and a people pleaser… but since being on the receiving end I now realise how annoying it is!

FairKoala · 12/08/2025 09:01

If someone at work kept placing more and more files of their work on your desk then silently walking away and ignoring you and you have to complete all work placed on your desk, would you find that behaviour and the subsequent workload horrible?

Being horrible is what you are doing to the person asking coffee and tea. If you won’t put in the effort to answer then why do you expect others to do the work for you

MyIvyGrows · 12/08/2025 08:57

WinnieTheWhat · 11/08/2025 17:40

I have a friend like this who will text asking if I want to go out but will never suggest anywhere. I reply with ‘Yes, that sounds great. Let me know where you want to go and I’ll book it for us both/meet you there’

That way it forces her to make a decision instead of making me choose every time and do the thinking for her. If I ask her to go out, I make suggestions in my original text and if she tells me she doesn’t mind, I choose where I want us to go.

I do the opposite with a particular friend who is like this - we don’t meet up very often but he is much busier than I am so I resent offering “Friday afternoon or evening? Saturday afternoon? Sunday afternoon?” when he then rejects everything. I now just say “great, let’s go to Wagamama at 4pm on Friday 16th” then let him work himself around that.

AleaEim · 12/08/2025 08:52

FairKoala · 12/08/2025 08:39

Then why can’t you just say “tea”

Because she wants coffee but doesn’t want to say that but is secretly hoping her friend will want coffee so she can have some. Or she’s hoping the friend will read her mind that she wants coffee, otherwise she would have just said yea.

FairKoala · 12/08/2025 08:39

TitaniasAss · 11/08/2025 09:52

I can't see it as passive aggressive, that seems a bit odd, unless you know that person is deliberately trying to annoy you.

It's annoying sometimes, but if someone asks me if I want tea or coffee in their home I will sometimes say 'whatever you're having' because a) I don't mind one way or the other what I have and don't have a preference and b) my friend has a fancy schmancy coffee machine and I don't want her to have to be fannying about with it for me if she wants tea herself.

Then why can’t you just say “tea”

AleaEim · 12/08/2025 08:37

Sskka · 11/08/2025 16:13

What if the other person will feel bad in case they’ve made a bad choice, or they just really want to know that you’re into it? Does that sort of thing just not occur to you?

Exactly this, and what if both parties just kept saying, I don’t mind, I don’t mind back and forth? Nothing would ever get done.

AleaEim · 12/08/2025 07:25

xLittleMissCantBeWrongx · 11/08/2025 10:39

Yeah but sometimes when you give them options they are still like “I don’t miiiiiind 🙃”

Twats. All of them.

Exactly, on top of my family being indecisive, passive etc they are also extremely fussy eaters so when I decide on a dish to make or a restaurant they’ll then tell me they won’t eat it but still won’t decide where to go!

WinnieTheWhat · 11/08/2025 17:40

xLittleMissCantBeWrongx · 11/08/2025 09:46

I loathe this.

I have a friend who will message me and say “do you want to do something with the kids on Saturday morning?”

”yeah sure. What do you have in mind?”

”oh, I don’t mind, whatever you want to do…”

Every. Single. Time.

I’ve started saying I’m not free.

I have a friend like this who will text asking if I want to go out but will never suggest anywhere. I reply with ‘Yes, that sounds great. Let me know where you want to go and I’ll book it for us both/meet you there’

That way it forces her to make a decision instead of making me choose every time and do the thinking for her. If I ask her to go out, I make suggestions in my original text and if she tells me she doesn’t mind, I choose where I want us to go.

Someone2025 · 11/08/2025 17:17

AirborneElephant · 11/08/2025 17:03

If you often have and express choices, you are nothing like them. If they even occasionally suggested or declined a single thing, I would trust that when they say they don’t mind they really don’t. But it is ALL THE TIME. So as others have said it leaves me wondering whether or not they are actually enjoying themselves, if I’m forcing them to do things they don’t want to ect. It’s tiring, I’m constantly trying to guess how they are feeling, and whether they’re hungry or tired or bored. And while they would never complain as such, I do get regular comments afterwards like “oh, it’s a shame…” , or “we could have done …”. Yes, we could, if you had said you wanted to. (And I’m not talking expensive or impossible things here).

Agree, that kind of behaviour ( it they do it all the time) makes people sound like weak people pleasers who are afraid to rock the boat in any way and inconvenience people

AirborneElephant · 11/08/2025 17:03

spoonbillstretford · 11/08/2025 14:29

This. I'm afraid I don't see the problem unless they then moan about the decision you took on their behalf later.

I often have quite firm choices on what I'd like to eat or do, so if I say "I don't mind," I really don't mind! I would say that when I trust the other person to perhaps make a more interesting choice than I might think up myself.

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If you often have and express choices, you are nothing like them. If they even occasionally suggested or declined a single thing, I would trust that when they say they don’t mind they really don’t. But it is ALL THE TIME. So as others have said it leaves me wondering whether or not they are actually enjoying themselves, if I’m forcing them to do things they don’t want to ect. It’s tiring, I’m constantly trying to guess how they are feeling, and whether they’re hungry or tired or bored. And while they would never complain as such, I do get regular comments afterwards like “oh, it’s a shame…” , or “we could have done …”. Yes, we could, if you had said you wanted to. (And I’m not talking expensive or impossible things here).

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DBD1975 · 11/08/2025 16:57

Good grief, really?
Quick conversation, I know you want to be low maintenance and no inconvenience (which you aren't). However I won't continue to ask you for input into meals or what we are doing. If at any time you disagree with anything, would like anything else please just say.
They aren't going to change so you need to and you just need to be a bit more directional.

Sskka · 11/08/2025 16:13

OwlBeThere · 11/08/2025 15:33

I mean, I guess this is going to have to be another one I chalk up to ‘neurotypicals are weird’ because I absolutely would not think they didn’t want to go if they just said they don’t mind what we do. I would MUCH rather be told ‘we are going here and doing this’ than being asked what I wanted to do because being put on the spot is a lot of pressure to me.

What if the other person will feel bad in case they’ve made a bad choice, or they just really want to know that you’re into it? Does that sort of thing just not occur to you?

Someone2025 · 11/08/2025 15:54

AirborneElephant · 10/08/2025 21:11

Have family staying. Love them, but my god they drive me mad. What would you like for breakfast? Whatever you’re having. Would you like to do x today? If you’d like. Would you like tea or coffee? I don’t mind. Do you want chips or salad? Whatever you want. AAAARGH. It’s not polite, it’s rude and passive-aggressive .

Just a rant really, but anyone else find this incredibly annoying?

My mother is like this, she thinks she is being nice and not inconveniencing someone by doing it but it’s so annoying, and even when she knows it’s annoying someone she still won’t stop, as a person she is a bit like a sheep sometimes and will go along with what everyone else is doing because she think that doing otherwise makes for an inconsiderate person.

One time at dinner most of the guests were having a certain drink except for one woman who ordered something something different ( perfectly within her right) …..after dinner my mother was talking about this woman and the gall she had to order something different !

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 11/08/2025 15:46

It sounds really annoying!

DS (11) has just started doing this and it’s really annoying!

HardworkSendHelp · 11/08/2025 15:42

That would drive me mad and they would be told. You need to pick one. Like seriously tea or coffee and they can’t pick.

OwlBeThere · 11/08/2025 15:33

xsquared · 11/08/2025 14:54

I find it annoying when they say they don't mind but then end up complaining about the choice afterwards.

Either make a decision yourself and take responsibility for it or truly let someone else decide for you and accept the consequences.

Yes I agree with that. Moaning if youve said you don’t mind IS annoying.

OwlBeThere · 11/08/2025 15:33

Horsie · 11/08/2025 04:11

OP is describing pathological refusal to express a single preference or want, no matter how small, and that is WEIRD. It's not the same as being polite. Most people would say something like they prefer toast or they prefer cereal, at least, or make a decision between coffee or tea. This refusal to say anything is sometimes done when someone has been made to do something or go somewhere under duress, hence the rudeness.

Imagine you were trying to arrange a date with someone. If they refused to tell you what they wanted to do, what kind of food they liked, or whether they even wanted to go to a restaurant at all - just simply REFUSED to tell you, no matter how many times you asked them what they might like to do on the date - wouldn't you be wondering whether they even wanted to go? Because what they're saying is that they don't care what you do on the date, which is perilously close to saying they don't want to go on the date at all.

This isn't about politeness. This is about a total refusal to participate, and it comes across very negatively.

I mean, I guess this is going to have to be another one I chalk up to ‘neurotypicals are weird’ because I absolutely would not think they didn’t want to go if they just said they don’t mind what we do. I would MUCH rather be told ‘we are going here and doing this’ than being asked what I wanted to do because being put on the spot is a lot of pressure to me.