To think it is not that easy to 'get a better job'

Not really feasible though since they can only work select hours.but you need a range of people to fill in all the gaps.

In my department there are a few of us with kids who work set hours during the day so I guess we come into the ex SAHM bracket (although none of us ever were) We are bringing in a bit of extra money propped up by a higher earning husband.

Fine but if they chose to walk out or we had to leave because they were twats then we would be asked why we didn't have a career, were financially independent.

Only the managers and assistant managers earn a chunk over minimum wage, there are a wide variety of others from all different backgrounds doing the jobs of food servers, receptionists, gym staff, groundskeepers. You can't rely on students forever so who actually does those jobs if everyone aged 23-65 was working in a high paid career?

She's not entitled to anything.

That’s by the by. She shouldn’t have to.

If she was in dire situation she could have cancelled. YouTube is free

I love my job, genuinely love it. However.... I put in extra hours sometimes, because it's time restrictive with deadlines (and because I thoroughly enjoy what I'm doing) - everyone on the team does - it's not me not being able to manage time effectively. Everyone's cases are different though, some might have a quick fix, others might need a lot of work.
The next pay grade would involve me having the original type of workload but with extra responsibilities and as a single parent, this just wouldn't work for me. I've worked 5 unpaid hours this week alone and logged on the day I was on AL.
How the hell am I supposed to progress in this role, when I already work my arse off and there aren't enough hours in the day? And I really want to progress, even though the next pay grade is only 3k more.

I agree OP. All paid full time employment should yield a sufficient salary for a reasonable standard of living.

There was a thread the other day from a woman on NMW (I think) who worked full time and had nothing to live on after bills were paid. People were criticising her because she had a £10 Netflix subscription. I thought it’s a bugger isn’t it, you work full time and can’t even come home after a long shift and watch a sodding series than literally everyone will have.

Sometimes MN is funny. People have no problem with families on benefits who don’t work getting £3000 per month but blame someone who works FT for not having a pot to piss in.

And who's manning the landfill? Are you paying enough out of your own pocket to ensure that the people providing that service aren't on a low wage? Or is it a free for all with no one there, because no one should be in a low waged job? Are you also going to sort it all yourself and make sure the laws around waste disposal are adhered to? Are you going to make sure everyone else is doing the same?

And how are you getting there without fuel for your car, keeping it taxed, MOT'd and insured (who all need some low paid workers to function)?

And your car will need cleaning after I would think, where are you buying the stuff to do that? Because there'll be no shop assistants aside from the few that are students or retired or working around children at school so they're not actually available when you want to go to the shop, so it's shut, or there's nothing on the shelves and only a couple of people serving.

Want to grab a coffee on the way back? Nope. No low paid coffee shop workers to serve you there, all off doing better jobs.

And that's just one trip to the local landfill.

Don't forget take in ironing , become a childminder or move somewhere cheaper - all easy and instant solutions!

MN is full of easy solutions. Get a better job, learn to drive, get therapy, just leave...If only our decisions could really be that straightforward. I guess that's the nature of an anonymous forum though, and sometimes another person's perspective might give us a push in the right direction.

…where there would still need to be people dealing with the bins

you make a-lot of odd assumptions and don’t care about others 🤔

I'd pay out of my own pocket to go to a private landfill.

Do you mean dealing with patients? I can’t think of a job where one is qualified to refer patients to specialists / other clinicians paying NMW, but I’m prepared to be corrected (and stunned).

😂talk is cheap
landfill site men count as bin men also. What if they all refused to do them jobs.
You really are up yourself

Bin men are easily replaceable. Anyone of sound body can do it.

If bin men upped and refused to work, I'd physically take my garbage to a landfill site or pay for private waste clearance.

Just to buck the trend. I am degree educated, worked in the field I studied until I had kids, then worked for NMW. I have just left a job that involved health screening, hospital referrals and medical scans.

As of Monday, I will be working for Aldi. Which pays more than my previous job, has better working hours and better benefits. Surely this is the scandal, I studied for years to be able to do my previous role, but I will be paid better to move stock around a supermarket.

With out bin men rubbish would pile up, it would cause diseases , huge stink, trip hazard’s, rats, cockroaches, people would get ill and there would not be enough doctors to deal with all them ill people

Bin men are important are doctors . …

I think you’re really misunderstanding the role. There’s no one-to-one assistance with the exam apart from walking with a student to the loos and waiting outside. And honestly this hardly happened because time is precious in exams and students didn’t waste time going to the loo, they would go before the exam. If it did happen you could make sure it was one of the other invigilators who did it instead of you. There were always multiple invigilators in an exam. Anyway, it doesn’t sound like it’s something you’re interested in.

They deserve what they are getting paid. Given a binman is physically (and mentally) healthy to do the job and go outside. Their success and life is down to them.

Yes. Of course a doctor is more important.

They are saying that a binman deserves to live in poverty because they are too thick to do more. That is the vibe I get from a few people on this thread.

What do you mean? ? you saying a bin man is not as important as a doctor? I hope not cause both are importent in different ways …

Yes it is awful out there. Simple shop jobs offering min wage are wanting 3 years experience.
There are threads on MN about parents worried about their kids graduating uni and not having a job lined up.
The people on MN saying no one is trying hard enough have no idea how shit things are out there right now.

The job market is pretty tough at the minute too
i got rejected from a call centre job for “not enough experience”
I have over 18 years call centre experience, how much more do you want?!

I want to work but there is a huge barrier to work with people like me.
If you cant understand that then you are privileged.