Train etiquette

Train travel is often a nightmare regular Avanti user I have lots of awful journey s especially Sundays They cancel trains constantly then shove everyone on one train that's running It can be very dangerous for babys and children there doesn't seem to be a limit to how many passengers they will squeeze on It should be looked into before someone is squashed so badly they can't breathe

OP has very clearly said several times now she was 'not faffing.'

Don't worry, you have already acknowledged that you didn't in fact have the experience of the train route to back up your previous comments.

The nit-pickers are out in force.

I have boarded many trains in that area over the years and have never seen anyone pushing people out of the way. Yes, it can be hectic and you may not see people at their most accommodating, but I have never experienced what you describe, although I don't recall ever boarding a train with a buggy,

Surely holding a 12kg toddler isn’t a safe or reasonable expectation! They did the right thing folding the buggy down. Is there no consideration of non walking toddlers being carried - because it is clearly stipulated that this would be a situation that qualifies for a priority seat.

People pushed because she was stood right at the front, in front of the door but instead of getting straight onboard was faffing with a buggy. Unless they are psychopaths they weren't pushing for fun, but because the OP and family were blocking their chance to try to get onto the beyond capacity train.

The clue's in the name, they toddle, they need to be on laps or on seats, stop being such a pedant

Already replied. HTH.
Feel free to ignore me.

What she did could easily be described as faffing. HTH
I'm not admitting anything because there's nothing to admit. HTH

What was the inaccuracy?!

I'll keep responding to inaccuracies.
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Nonsense, that was just a bad experience, there is plenty of great train etiquette

I wasn’t talking about the OP being surprised, I was talking about my experience of parents at the train station I use in London.

She obviously wasn’t in the best position (where the doors open) or people wouldn’t have been able to push past her. Not excusing their behaviour but people are arseholes.

But why the need to roll eyes and unpleasant to anybody? Just for occupying the same space as you, trying to get home, just like you?

Every man, woman and child for themselves in this world I’m afraid.

You’ve done nothing wrong, but passengers are passengers. There is zero train etiquette sadly.

when ive used trains theres usually no que as such more everyone rushes to which ever door is available

And as I’ve said numerous times, that’s up to them, but don’t complain when you can’t get a seat and people are rolling their eyes and being unpleasant.

So you admit she didn't say she was faffing, you inserted that. You were the one who claimed to have the experience to justify your comments, now your admitting you don't.

The OP wasn't surprised. She said they arrived really early on the platform to be in the best position to try to get a seat, but people actually pushed her out of the way to get on. I don't care how busy it is, pushing past people is twattish behaviour. Pushing past someone carrying a toddler is extra twattish.

Do you not understand how priority seats work? It would be very rare IME for all of the priority seats to be occupied by people in the priority category, so those sitting there who don’t qualify should move if someone who qualifies turns up (and you may not like it, but people carrying young children are in the priority category).

Admittedly that doesn’t always happen. But that’s because people who don’t give up their seats when they should are dicks.

It doesn’t help no, because I’m not saying anything about seats in what I’ve written. Please stop responding to my posts because you just have no logic or critical thought and it’s annoying.

This is why I hate commuting. Obviously you were using the train at the weekend but generally there aren't enough carriages for the numbers of people who want to use the train. It's horrible. And people do push in and barge people out of the way. No quarter ever given. Freely admit I may sound cranky cos have to go to work tomorrow 😕

Yep, everyone has the right to travel. They don't have the right to someone else's seat, or indeed any seat.
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I have experience of trains, commuting, travelling. Despite my username I'm not familiar with the exact layout of every train, are you? She has also admitted she was faffing, albeit not in those exact words.
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Well if you take your kids on a day out, generally you ARE going to be travelling there in the morning and back in the evening. Or should you cut short the day to travel back in the middle of it incase the train is busy and you inconvenience the workforce? Or arrive very late at your activity of choice for the same reason?

Everyone has the right to travel when it is convenient for them to do so, even if it technically could be avoided.