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EmJA85 · 10/08/2025 10:41

Was getting the train back to London from a day out in Folkestone yesterday with my husband and my 1 year old. It’s not possible to book seats on that line. We arrived at the platform 30mins early because we knew it would be busy. As soon as the train arrived people literally pushed us out of the way to get on. Then there was a man with 2 bikes by the door, we couldn’t attempt to move to another carriage because we wouldn’t get on and the trains only run once an hour. People tutted and moaned because I was having trouble getting on. There wasn’t space to keep the buggy up so I had to carry him and people thought it was acceptable to let me stand holding a 12kg toddler, he can’t walk yet and is very energetic. I spoke out and was given a seat but everyone gave me dirty looks as if I was in the wrong. If I rocked up late or if seats were assigned I would say fair enough but I was there early and they all pushed in front. The icing on the cake was the seat I was given was in the area with the tables so he was given a makeshift drum and thought it was a social event so he proceeded to babble at everyone for the hour , people were not impressed. Is there an unwritten rule that you don’t get trains with kids? I don’t have a car

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Harry12345 · 10/08/2025 22:38

Fragmentedbrain · 10/08/2025 10:44

People are not very empathetic to someone with an added burden, Brits don't like kids, trains in the UK are balls. A depressing trip all round.

But you could have not let him drum on the table...

I’ve got trains from 2 big cities in Scotland for years with young children and people are very helpful and nice, never had the experience op is speaking of. Most people actually help you on with the buggy and give up a seat for you

Panterusblackish · 10/08/2025 22:12

EmJA85 · 10/08/2025 10:55

I live in London and don’t have a car so I’ve been on plenty of trains. If you read my post, you would see, I said I couldn’t walk to the next carriage because the train and platform were too busy. There wasn’t enough time in this instance. Not everyone on the platform made it on the train. The man with the bikes was already on the train when it got to my stop. I couldn’t walk down the train because the isles were full of people standing. I literally go anywhere but off the train or on the train where I was stood. My husband carried the buggy and stood holding it folded . I took the baby. And to clarify , I was stood my the door attempting to get on the train with my baby and people were pushing me no out the way

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People are becoming feral.

No one should be pushing a mother and baby out if the way.

Sadly as a society we are importing American individualism rather than understanding that a greater good exists.

An adult without earphones playing music or a film really is something to get annoyed about. A baby babbling away is totally different and just part of life.

Chompingatthebeat · 10/08/2025 22:09

As a regular train user, i find most people to be mostly polite - not sure about this 'bunch of animals' rhetoric, perhaps its just what you choose to focus on

Shadowdancers · 10/08/2025 22:04

EmJA85 · 10/08/2025 10:41

Was getting the train back to London from a day out in Folkestone yesterday with my husband and my 1 year old. It’s not possible to book seats on that line. We arrived at the platform 30mins early because we knew it would be busy. As soon as the train arrived people literally pushed us out of the way to get on. Then there was a man with 2 bikes by the door, we couldn’t attempt to move to another carriage because we wouldn’t get on and the trains only run once an hour. People tutted and moaned because I was having trouble getting on. There wasn’t space to keep the buggy up so I had to carry him and people thought it was acceptable to let me stand holding a 12kg toddler, he can’t walk yet and is very energetic. I spoke out and was given a seat but everyone gave me dirty looks as if I was in the wrong. If I rocked up late or if seats were assigned I would say fair enough but I was there early and they all pushed in front. The icing on the cake was the seat I was given was in the area with the tables so he was given a makeshift drum and thought it was a social event so he proceeded to babble at everyone for the hour , people were not impressed. Is there an unwritten rule that you don’t get trains with kids? I don’t have a car

Bunch of animals, everyone for itself... Long gone British manners... If they all jumped in front of you...
Word of advise.. Next time get your husband to block others and ensure you have a safe passage... Been there... Done it... Or else plan the train better...

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/08/2025 21:53

JillMW · 10/08/2025 19:35

I have been on a lot of very busy trains lately and helped many people with children and babies. Maybe it is different in the North but here everyone helps. However as you were with your husband possibly people thought he would help. Shocking that people pushed you, did your husband not tell them to stop?

I got told off for commenting this on a thread the other day, but this is another one of those threads where the husband seems almost not to have been present, at least according to the OP’s recollection.

I have commented more fully up thread so didn’t just come on to say this.

AlpacaMittens · 10/08/2025 21:29

EmJA85 · 10/08/2025 14:56

Obviously people were working 🤣 I was replying to a response that implied I was traveling on weekday office worker times

You literally wrote "it wasn't a working day". Saturdays, and Sundays, are working says for loads of people.

MimiGC · 10/08/2025 21:28

I travel on trains between the Kent coast and London all the time and you categorically cannot book seats.

DurinsBane · 10/08/2025 21:09

YellowZebraStripes · 10/08/2025 10:57

Were you expecting a red carpet? 😂There was a train, you managed to get on, someone gave you a seat, it was quite busy. I don't see how this was anyone else fault - someone with bikes can only get on at certain carriages of the train.

That’s the issue, people with bikes can get on any carriage, but only some have places for them. So they end up blocking the area by the doors

Fern95 · 10/08/2025 20:58

That space is for wheelchairs then buggies then bikes not the other way round! I can't hold my 12 month old for an entire train journey precisely because she CAN walk and stand and she's the size of a 2 year old, I literally don't have the strength to confine her on my lap for an hour + especially with my shit back. She loves violently throwing herself backwards without any warning and it's been suggested that she has hypertonia because of her muscle tone/strength. Guess she might be useful as a pro wrestler and earn me a fortune 🤣

Unfortunately a seat is useless to people who can't safely hold their children. What an earth would the bike users have expected you to do with a newborn in a bassinet pram or twins??? Keep the buggy up if you struggle otherwise. Bikes on trains are supposed to be folded barring off peak times in/around London.

To the people saying don't travel during rush hour with kids that is very unrealistic when you are given a medical appointment etc at 9am at St Thomas or similar.

Jb2182 · 10/08/2025 20:37

It was Margate Pride, Herne Bay carnival, Broadstairs Folk week and Whitstable Harbour Day yesterday so the trains would have all been busier than usual on a sunny Saturday!

Spooky2000 · 10/08/2025 20:33

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OMFG. Come to the north and speak like that, lass.

"side note, I grew up in London..." yer don't say...🙄
"I do want children some day" - do the rest of the populous a massive favour and please don't. Jesus, more like you!? As if we don't have enough!

"You don’t deserve a seat just because you couldn’t keep your 🦵s shut" I laughed at that, I admit - but only because of the puerility of the remark and your evident immaturity. Additional reasons not to 'pro-create' FYI, would be because merely thinking you're smarter and more mature than what you actually are means you won't be able to adapt to parenting, or to execute it nearly as well as you think you can. I HTH 😁

pinkyredrose · 10/08/2025 20:25

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Blimey. Why not tell us how you really feel!

pinkyredrose · 10/08/2025 20:22

Makingitupaswegoalong · 10/08/2025 15:31

it drives me mad when parents with kids (during the holidays) use the trains at rush hour

We were on a rush hour train from London with two young kids last week because they had a filming job in London. Why were you entitled to travel at the time any more than they were?

Love the stealth boast!

LastKnownSurvivor · 10/08/2025 20:21

The train companies are at fault, not putting enough carriages on at busy times. They're probably delighted the passengers are all blaming one another for a problem that wouldn't even exist if this country was capable of running a railway properly.

Spooky2000 · 10/08/2025 20:16

I'm commenting from the first page here. It's a train to London. Of course everyone is peeved, that's seemingly the state of affairs from anywhere in the UK to London and especially going around LDN. People travelling there seem to have an issue with kids, pets, bikes, other passengers, headphones, food and a plethora of other things. It's not personal. It's the destination and mindset. Nowt you can do about that loves, and it was only once. Get a takeaway and a bottle of wine and write it up to miserable bastards and move forward :)

EvilEdna44 · 10/08/2025 20:04

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Wow.

EvilEdna44 · 10/08/2025 20:02

Takoneko · 10/08/2025 19:21

It’s weird to feel culture shock in the city where I've lived all my life but getting onto a tube home from Heathrow after two weeks in Japan gets me every time. The tube used to be a lot more like Japanese trains. Never as clean, but people used to quietly ignore each other and didn’t do things like play music out loud.

Just been to Spain for a week and we had intrusive phone noise behind us on the plane, then beside us in the coach transfer to the hotel, then from fellow guests poolside. It’s everywhere. What is up with people? Why are headphones no longer a thing?

Chompingatthebeat · 10/08/2025 19:57

Were things better in 'the good ol days'?!

Clafoutie · 10/08/2025 19:46

Mayanatalia · 10/08/2025 19:29

Erm parents can bring their children on the train at whatever time they feel like, with it being a free country.

Exactly! Also, people with children need to get the rush hour trains for lots of reasons. It isn’t just reserved for people without children! Some of the replies on here are very eye-opening about the level of people’s disdain for children. I find it quite depressing.

Kirbert2 · 10/08/2025 19:40

JillMW · 10/08/2025 19:35

I have been on a lot of very busy trains lately and helped many people with children and babies. Maybe it is different in the North but here everyone helps. However as you were with your husband possibly people thought he would help. Shocking that people pushed you, did your husband not tell them to stop?

That's my experience with trains in the North too and my son is a wheelchair user.

Buses are a different story but trains are generally a pleasant experience.

DamsonGoldfinch · 10/08/2025 19:36

This thread is a stellar exemplar of mumsnet’s stated aim of making parents’ lives easier. NOT 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Laying into a woman who is a bit pissed off that she had to ask for a seat so she didn’t have to stand all the way to London for an hour. Telling her that she should have booked a seat. Telling her that they should have gone to the other end of the train, that her husband was useless, that basically it was ALL HER FAULT.

I can remember how brutal it was taking little children out for a day on public transport with little experience. Very sad that so many other mums don’t seem to be able to remember it and/or are just enjoying giving a mum of a baby a good kicking.

Clafoutie · 10/08/2025 19:35

Fragmentedbrain · 10/08/2025 10:44

People are not very empathetic to someone with an added burden, Brits don't like kids, trains in the UK are balls. A depressing trip all round.

But you could have not let him drum on the table...

So often the first reply is the best. This is very neatly and aptly summarised! 😀

JillMW · 10/08/2025 19:35

I have been on a lot of very busy trains lately and helped many people with children and babies. Maybe it is different in the North but here everyone helps. However as you were with your husband possibly people thought he would help. Shocking that people pushed you, did your husband not tell them to stop?

OneNeatBlueOrca · 10/08/2025 19:31

Mayanatalia · 10/08/2025 19:29

Erm parents can bring their children on the train at whatever time they feel like, with it being a free country.

Of course they can. They can take their children on a train during rush hour.If they choose. I wouldn't argue with that.

I would say they have no right to complain the train is overcrowded, though. If you travel in rush hour, expect it to be crowded.

Mayanatalia · 10/08/2025 19:29

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Erm parents can bring their children on the train at whatever time they feel like, with it being a free country.