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PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 09/08/2025 20:12

This is pretty much just a moan really. I'm already doing everything I can to try and improve our situation financially. Although nothing's working atm. 😑

Both DH and I work full-time, on minimum wage. Me 45 hours per week, him between 40-50 depending on the week. And we still can't make ends meet. I'm talking having about £50 left in the bank 2 days after payday because all the bills have come out.

Not entitled to any benefits as earn too much for UC (on MW? 😐). Kids are grown up (22 and 18) but still living at home. DD1 is in college and on UC and waiting to see if she's entitled to PIP for her autism. DD2 is starting uni next month and works part-time herself.

I'm just so fucking sick of the cost of everything. To the point I'm questioning whether I can afford to buy a £6 pack of Benadryl for my fucking hayfever! 😡

Applying for multiple better-paying jobs every week and getting bloody nowhere! Urgh.

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ThatRoseBear · 10/08/2025 16:22

OP to me the £850 per month on food and household essentials seems really high. We are a family of 5 and I set food budget at £110 per week. I will occasionally visit Costco and bulk buy but I don't have pets so I'm not sure if how much of that is for your pets. Maybe spend a month with a daily spend diary and review to see if you can identify any obvious areas for cutback. Good luck, everything is so expensive at the moment

Sweetlikecocaa · 10/08/2025 16:22

Does your eldest pay anything towards food OP? I think they should in your case. You sound like things are very tight.

bluecurtains14 · 10/08/2025 16:21

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 16:19

He has! He's worked in shops, factories, warehouses, kitchens, pubs, bars, gyms, went to college several times around working. Done driving jobs. He got laid off during Covid, and we were absolutely fucked financially. He managed to get the milkman job in July 2020 and it stopped us from being evicted due to not being able to pay the rent. It's not like he isn't actually looking for another job! But working for EVri or DPD is a hell of a lot shighter and more unstable than the job he has now!

But what has he done to progress? Applied for promotions? Upskilled? Gained qualifications?

Analysisandparalysis · 10/08/2025 16:21

Moan away OP, the CoL is bonkers and you work long hours..

Although £850 a month on groceries and pet food is pretty generous - I know because I spend that much and shop at Ocado and Waitrose (family of 4) and whilst I don’t go mad, I am not scrimping either. My shops also include toiletries / household stuff etc, although I don’t have pets as I don’t want the additional responsibility or effort😅

Anyway, the groceries bill seems like the only potential moveable cost, but that’s only possible if you batch cook / meal plan, blah blah..

Elephantonabroom · 10/08/2025 16:20

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 15:57

So I shouldn't have Netflix and Amazon because I'm setting a bad example? What?

we have Netflix only. no Amazon, no TV licence (i.e. no live TV at all), no Disney etc. I don't see the issue with only having Netflix. you clearly haven't got the priorities right if you can't afford to live and prioritize weight loss drugs and Amazon over affording in essentials

GleisZwei · 10/08/2025 16:20

Moan away OP, but MN can be quite quick to jump on partly self-inflicted moaning. Do what you choose with your money, but I would still try to reduce food a bit and/or get a contribution from adult kids, as those are doable without too much sacrifice. There's also the cheaper Netflix, with ads, which is actually OK.

ClassicalQueen · 10/08/2025 16:19

Just RTFT. Here’s a breakdown on your outgoings:

Rent - £600 - Probably as cheap as you can get unless you’re living in a house much bigger than you need. Also much cheaper than the majority of mortgages.

Gas/Electric - £450 (paying off debt) - Continue to pay this down then look to switch to a cheaper energy supplier.
Water - £100 (paying off debt) - Not much you can do.
Council Tax - £165 - Check your house is in the correct band, read MSE for this.
Council Tax debt - £230 (paying off bailiffs) - Not much you can do.
Mobiles - £100 (2 on contract, paying off devices, 2 PAYG) - Don’t upgrade at the end of contracts, buy outright, if you can’t afford the latest model, you don’t get it.
Car Insurance - £45 - Decent price.
Diesel/car maintenance - £100 (DH needs the car to get to work as does permanent nights) - Avoid using the car unless essential, drive as efficiently as you can to save diesel, no heavy acceleration or breaking, drive the car in eco mode if it has one.
Internet - £65 (need top speed as WFH FT). - See if you can find a cheaper one.
Subscriptions/VPN - £66 - Cut these down, that’s a lot of money going out for someone who is in debt and struggling financially.
Gym - £25 - See if there is a cheaper gym in your area and if so, switch.
Mounjaro - £99 - Not an essential, cut it out whilst you pay down your debt and get a better paid job, continue to eat healthily and exercise more.
Debt - £112 - Continue paying this down, with the most expensive debt taking priority (Highest interest rate).

Groceries (including toiletries etc) - £850 (ish). - This is a ridiculous amount for 4 adults. Have a look at meal planning and cut it down. Also look into intermittent fasting, you’ll eat less, lose weight and be generally healthier.

xSideshowAuntSallyXx · 10/08/2025 16:19

I usually have sympathy for people who say they're broke but you lost my sympathy when you said weight loss injections, Prime and Netflix were no negotiable. May be less binging on crap American tv and get off your arse you may not need weight loss injections.

You're in debt. They should be the first things to go. Seriously have a word with yourself.

P.S I work from home full time and don't need a vpn.

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 16:19

bluecurtains14 · 10/08/2025 16:18

If you have a child so disabled that they need a SAHM then you've got a responsibility to earn a bit more to support them.

He has! He's worked in shops, factories, warehouses, kitchens, pubs, bars, gyms, went to college several times around working. Done driving jobs. He got laid off during Covid, and we were absolutely fucked financially. He managed to get the milkman job in July 2020 and it stopped us from being evicted due to not being able to pay the rent. It's not like he isn't actually looking for another job! But working for EVri or DPD is a hell of a lot shighter and more unstable than the job he has now!

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PennywisePoundFoolish · 10/08/2025 16:19

Sorry things are tough, I hope the PIP application is successful this time.

My gas and electric bills are horrific, no debt just high usage. But it transpires a faulty fridge freezer was costing us about £200! Of course having the money to replace items is another problem when things are already really tight.

As you're locked into contracts there's not much you can do about that. I signed up to do telephone surveys and I've made a whacking £10 in the last month😅 but it might be worth you all looking into something like that? Appreciate it feels a bit pointless, but when there's nothing to cut back on it would at least pay for the Benadryl.

bluecurtains14 · 10/08/2025 16:18

GleisZwei · 10/08/2025 16:14

Some people are too busy working and surviving. Also, milkmen are actually contributing to a community, perhaps he enjoys it?

If you have a child so disabled that they need a SAHM then you've got a responsibility to earn a bit more to support them.

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 16:18

GleisZwei · 10/08/2025 16:14

Some people are too busy working and surviving. Also, milkmen are actually contributing to a community, perhaps he enjoys it?

Sorry quoted the wrong person.

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whitewineandsun · 10/08/2025 16:16

If you can't afford allergy medication, you don’t Netflix ot Amazon or a VPN. Surely that's not hard to work out.

Once the shitload of debt is paid off, reconsider.

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 16:14

Blushingm · 10/08/2025 16:09

£850 on groceries? WTF?!?!?!

and Mounjaro is not essential - it really isn’t. You say you don’t want a heart attack - if you were that unhealthy you’d have it on nhs prescrpition

gym membership? What’s wrong with walking or running?

i pay half what you do for broadband plus it includes tv and netflix

That's nice. If I wanted live TV and I'd need the extra expense of a TV Licence, who is going to fund that? Do you WFH permanently?

No I couldn't get it on NHS prescription because I can't even get an appointment with my GP! I have get my HRT from Boots because my GP won't even entertain seeing me for menopause!

And swimming is a far better exercise than walking. Running - DH has bad knees and literally can't run.

Yes I may sound defensive, because like I said I wasn't looking for advice. If I was I'd have posted in the money section. I only wanted a bloody moan! (Although I do seem to be having a good moan right now 😂).

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GleisZwei · 10/08/2025 16:14

bluecurtains14 · 10/08/2025 16:11

@PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock I buy 360 cetitirizine tablets on amazon for £12.

Why had your husband not bothered to improve his career over the years? I get that yours has been restricted by caring.

Some people are too busy working and surviving. Also, milkmen are actually contributing to a community, perhaps he enjoys it?

bluecurtains14 · 10/08/2025 16:11

@PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock I buy 360 cetitirizine tablets on amazon for £12.

Why had your husband not bothered to improve his career over the years? I get that yours has been restricted by caring.

ClassicalQueen · 10/08/2025 16:11

Where is most of the money going, your rent/mortgage?

Yes you won’t be eligible for UC, and why should you be? All you can do is continue applying for better paid jobs and trying to cut expenses where you can. For example, Benadryl is just diphenhydramine; you can buy a cheaper variant in the pharmacy or the supermarket.

Itiswhysofew · 10/08/2025 16:10

Is there any way you could cut your food expenses for a few months, just so you can get a few pennies behind you? Any naughty treats that could go, just for a little while? I know that'd be hard. If you reduced it by even £100 or £50?

The weekly shop cost is increasing every week😤. I see people with their trollies piled high and I really feel for them when the cashier says £150, £200, etc😩

Blushingm · 10/08/2025 16:09

£850 on groceries? WTF?!?!?!

and Mounjaro is not essential - it really isn’t. You say you don’t want a heart attack - if you were that unhealthy you’d have it on nhs prescrpition

gym membership? What’s wrong with walking or running?

i pay half what you do for broadband plus it includes tv and netflix

BreakingBroken · 10/08/2025 16:09

You should live within your means with zero extra until debts are paid. No Amazon No Netflix No Gym No WLD. Nothing zilch for 10-12 months whatever till debts paid THEN reassess.
For most, who are interested in a balanced budget, the sacrifice and resulting peace is worthwhile.
But your defensive tone says it all.
Question without WLD did you equally feel you “deserved” the extra foods you consumed? or are your weight issues and high food cost issues linked to poor cooking skills?

GleisZwei · 10/08/2025 16:08

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 15:40

Thanks I'll stop buying food for everyone instantly.

You probably need to consider ways to reduce the food budget - that's a lot for 4, especially on a limited budget.
Maybe post a shopping list/meal plan?
Do you eat a lot of meat? Chocolate? Brands?

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 16:08

Dunnocantthinkofone · 10/08/2025 16:04

Well when you are saying you can’t afford £6 on Benadryl but paying out for non essentials the message you are sending is not one of prioritising the most important things in life is it?
You can’t have it both ways - either you don’t have the money for essential medication or you do but are choosing to spend the money on other thjnfs

The problem is not having money to spend on small things (like Benadryl) week to week. Any unexpected expense (like we've just spent over £400 getting the car fixed) means we'll have less than £10 in the bank for anything else.

DH gets paid weekly. I get paid monthly. My wages pay all the bills, and his pays for weekly expenses like food, etc. An unexpected expense comes in (like the car) and we're fucked. Hence not having £6 for Benadryl because I didn't realise the pollen was going to be this high and I'd need more than usual.

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Netcurtainnelly · 10/08/2025 16:07

Loads of people live like this..
You need to focus on whatever you have got.
Somebody out will be jealous of you and will have less than you.

Missmarplesknittingbuddy · 10/08/2025 16:07

PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock · 10/08/2025 15:57

So I shouldn't have Netflix and Amazon because I'm setting a bad example? What?

@PrincessC0nsuelaBananaHammock . I completely understand the joyless existence of having to cut back to the bone but like you we ( many years ago) acquired debt, due to unexpected circumstances rather than splurging, and at the time our joint income, like yours were very modest .
We had to consider , regardless of what we wanted , or felt we deserved, what we could actually afford and had to cut out everything that wasn't essential unless debt was repaid .
The quicker you can clear the debt the quicker a great weight will be lifted from your shoulders .

Spinningonthatdizzyedge · 10/08/2025 16:05

I think you said you just wanted a moan and that's fair enough-we all need to be able to moan from time to time!

But although you don't seem to believe it possible, I work in this field and think you could get more disposable income by getting decent debt advice and checking all outgoings - can you make them cheaper?. It's worth a shot, isn't it?

Eg Could the food budget be reduced with meal planning, cutting down meat, cheap meals, eating from the freezer etc etc

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