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social media is convincing all our kids they are nd?

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AuntMarch · 09/08/2025 14:38

I've just been sat on the bus and the tiktok videos I'm hearing almost have me seeking a diagnosis.
"ADHD TEST" Put a finger down if you've ever focused on something so much you've lost track of time/ sometimes think you talk too much or not enough.."
it's basically covered every possible behaviour and it's video after video.

it's no wonder every kid thinks they have something.

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CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:42

1diamondearing · 10/08/2025 10:35

So that is your answer.

You can't answer the point, masked ADHD is a contradiction in terms. Masked ADHD is an oxymoron.

So your response is to call this hate speech!

Fine, whatever. I am leaving this thread now anyway.

But I am delighted the tide is turning, it has been a long time coming, but it is clearly happening noa.

No the ride isn’t turning. Far from it. It’s widely acknowledged that autism and ADHD diagnosis and support are hugely underfunded and necessary and that both are under diagnosed. If anything interventions like this will be increasing

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/more-support-for-neurodivergent-children-in-mainstream-schools

More support for neurodivergent children in mainstream schools

Around 300,000 children across 1,200 primary schools to benefit from earlier and better neurodiversity support

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/more-support-for-neurodivergent-children-in-mainstream-schools

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 10:41

Hate speech = trolling.

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:39

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tumblingdowntherabbithole · 10/08/2025 10:38

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:26

Exactly this!

MN seems to be a particularly bad place for this and it’s often the same posters who have a strange obsession with doing it. It’s like a form of bullying you see in schools- let’s see how much we can wind up the ND kids.

They really need to get a handle on it.

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Yep - MN is the last place I would go for any kind of support around neurodiversity.

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:38

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:35

Me too

Yes I'm out too. No fun when it's a mix of Ai and stubborn single mindedness.

flawlessflipper · 10/08/2025 10:37

1diamondearing · 10/08/2025 10:35

So that is your answer.

You can't answer the point, masked ADHD is a contradiction in terms. Masked ADHD is an oxymoron.

So your response is to call this hate speech!

Fine, whatever. I am leaving this thread now anyway.

But I am delighted the tide is turning, it has been a long time coming, but it is clearly happening noa.

I have explained more than once why it isn’t a contradiction in terms.

With attitudes like you have, I am thankful you aren’t teaching my DC.

1diamondearing · 10/08/2025 10:35

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 10:14

People who are ableist shouldn't be in education. As I said, I've reported your comments as hate speech.

So that is your answer.

You can't answer the point, masked ADHD is a contradiction in terms. Masked ADHD is an oxymoron.

So your response is to call this hate speech!

Fine, whatever. I am leaving this thread now anyway.

But I am delighted the tide is turning, it has been a long time coming, but it is clearly happening noa.

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:35

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 10:34

I've queried the deleted post as many posts on here are far more questionable!

Me too

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 10:34

I've queried the deleted post as many posts on here are far more questionable!

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:31

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:30

Too much ChatGpt on this thread form multiple posters. Boring.

Well you can always toddle off.

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:30

Too much ChatGpt on this thread form multiple posters. Boring.

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:27

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 10:23

I haven't been deleted for troll hunting BTW.

We clearly have a long way to go before those that struggle with conditions are believed, supported, recognized and understood..instead of mocked, insulted, disregarded and sidelined.

Renamedyetagain · Today 10:00
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I reported your post, MN deleted it due to troll hunting.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 10/08/2025 10:27

1diamondearing · 10/08/2025 09:59

How! "Masked ADHD" is a total contradiction in terms.

it like me saying I have totally benign cancer. Or I have normal-colour-vision colour-blindness.

It’s not a contradiction in the slightest. Many people with ADHD will massively over-compensate and build in long routines and plans so that their condition isn’t as visible to the outside world.

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:26

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 10:23

I haven't been deleted for troll hunting BTW.

We clearly have a long way to go before those that struggle with conditions are believed, supported, recognized and understood..instead of mocked, insulted, disregarded and sidelined.

Exactly this!

MN seems to be a particularly bad place for this and it’s often the same posters who have a strange obsession with doing it. It’s like a form of bullying you see in schools- let’s see how much we can wind up the ND kids.

They really need to get a handle on it.

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:24

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:17

You've been deleted for troll hunting.

Has she? I can only see posts deleted for abelism?

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 10:23

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:20

Kindly, perhaps this would be a good time to step back and take a break from this thread if it is distressing you. It's ok to discuss and disagree and no it won't always feel comfortable but c'est la vie. If you feel especially perturbed please look after yourself and take a screen break.

I haven't been deleted for troll hunting BTW.

We clearly have a long way to go before those that struggle with conditions are believed, supported, recognized and understood..instead of mocked, insulted, disregarded and sidelined.

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 10/08/2025 10:23

Bellsbeachwaves · 10/08/2025 10:02

Apologies, I don't mean to oversimplify it. I think your post makes total sense in how you explain the impact of masking.

My question (and it's not with your case specifically) is why is that now often defined as part of being autistic or ADHD. Masking, then it not working anymore, often in midlife(!), has been around for a long time. Why is it now diagnosed as autism and ADHD. Why the need for a 'diagnosis'?

Maybe flip it around and ask why you feel that people shouldn’t get a diagnosis for a condition they’ve struggled with their entire life?

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:22

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:21

No abelism shouldn’t be at the level it distresses those suffering with disabilities.

That's a separate topic. Renamedyetagain says they are distressed but his thread and if this is true it's best to take a break form a self care perspective. She can always chose to come back to it and argue her point when she feels less distressed.

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:21

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:20

Kindly, perhaps this would be a good time to step back and take a break from this thread if it is distressing you. It's ok to discuss and disagree and no it won't always feel comfortable but c'est la vie. If you feel especially perturbed please look after yourself and take a screen break.

No abelism shouldn’t be at the level it distresses those suffering with disabilities.

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:20

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 09:45

The level of ignorance is actually distressing me.

Kindly, perhaps this would be a good time to step back and take a break from this thread if it is distressing you. It's ok to discuss and disagree and no it won't always feel comfortable but c'est la vie. If you feel especially perturbed please look after yourself and take a screen break.

dizzydizzydizzy · 10/08/2025 10:19

1diamondearing · 10/08/2025 08:58

How can it be possible to "mask" ( ie deliberately concentrate on pretending you don't have) a condition that makes it impossible to concentrate and work on something consistently?

how can it be possible to "mask" ( ie pretend you don't have) hyperactivity? A condition that makes it impossible for you to stop being active?

"masked ADHD" is surely a total oxymoron

Examples of masking:

  • Studying and then copying other people’s behaviour and body language
  • Overcompensating or overprepeparing - for example obsessively checking and rechecking and rerechecking your work due to the fear of making mistakes. Or working late, to do the job extra thoroughly for fear of people thinking you are lazy or don’t care because of the mistakes you make due to acting impulsively
  • Pretending to understand instructions and hoping to work it out later
  • Forcing oneself to sit still when whole body is screaming to move
  • Creating elaborate reminder systems to avoid forgetting appointments
  • concealing emotions such as frustration
it is exhausting. You have to operate at full effort just to appear normal.
CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 10:19

Bellsbeachwaves · 10/08/2025 10:15

I think the criticism is that all of that in that chat gpt list can be a normal human response, maladaptive yes, understandable probably, authentic, no, possibly not. But very common and caused by many things.

So going back to the OP, the worry might be that it becomes a fixed diagnosis that cannot be changed and that is an understandable worry where children are concerned.

Only if you are ignorant or choose to be ignorant re how difficult ADHD is to live with and manage. There is a reason why self harm and suicide attempts are so high within the ADHD population.

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:17

Renamedyetagain · 10/08/2025 10:14

People who are ableist shouldn't be in education. As I said, I've reported your comments as hate speech.

You've been deleted for troll hunting.

whatsit84 · 10/08/2025 10:17

The trouble with these types of things (such as a list posted by a previous poster) is that it makes it seem that if you struggle with any sort of situation that is because you are neurodiverse and that if you weren’t, everything would be easy. That is just not true - it is part of normal human experience to struggle with some things!

pennelpesto · 10/08/2025 10:16

1diamondearing · 10/08/2025 10:07

no, it is a good summary of constantly repeated information. That is what it does, repeat what is constantly being said, and what we are discussing on this thread, is to what extent is all this received wisdom a total load of rubbish.

Good point