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social media is convincing all our kids they are nd?

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AuntMarch · 09/08/2025 14:38

I've just been sat on the bus and the tiktok videos I'm hearing almost have me seeking a diagnosis.
"ADHD TEST" Put a finger down if you've ever focused on something so much you've lost track of time/ sometimes think you talk too much or not enough.."
it's basically covered every possible behaviour and it's video after video.

it's no wonder every kid thinks they have something.

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alltoowelltmv · 12/08/2025 21:49

Ok so I don't know if anyone's said this yet as I only read the first few replies and was sent into a rage.

If you take ADHD meds and don't have ADHD, you'll get high. You won't be helped.

I really don't think there is anyone being prescribed ADHD meds that don't need them...

CiffHang3r · 12/08/2025 21:45

BCBird · 12/08/2025 21:36

I agree. I was in a discussion the other day with a child who told me he had ADHD. He then proceeded to tell me that everyone has ADHD. A colleague told me that there loads of videos on Tik Tok persuading people they are ND. 🙄

There are lots of things on TikTok. If you truly believe everything on TikTok can persuade young people into believing anything that isn’t true you have bigger things to worry about than ADHD.

x2boys · 12/08/2025 21:44

coxesorangepippin · 12/08/2025 21:32

It's a spectrum!!!

It's includes everyone!!

Yippee!!!

Joking aside, I do think a lot of people just want a special snowflake label

It really is that basic

No it DOESN'T for the umpteenth time it only includes those who are actually autistic hence the name autistic spectrum disorder
Same with ADHD.

x2boys · 12/08/2025 21:41

coxesorangepippin · 12/08/2025 21:33

What's DLA? £300 + a month?

It depends on the rates it can be as little as £80 odd / month up to just under £800 / month my son gets the highest rates but we have opted for a mobility car so get £400 and odd,/ month the mobility element pays for the car.

BCBird · 12/08/2025 21:36

I agree. I was in a discussion the other day with a child who told me he had ADHD. He then proceeded to tell me that everyone has ADHD. A colleague told me that there loads of videos on Tik Tok persuading people they are ND. 🙄

coxesorangepippin · 12/08/2025 21:33

What's DLA? £300 + a month?

coxesorangepippin · 12/08/2025 21:32

It's a spectrum!!!

It's includes everyone!!

Yippee!!!

Joking aside, I do think a lot of people just want a special snowflake label

It really is that basic

CiffHang3r · 12/08/2025 21:30

MyLimeGuide · 12/08/2025 19:10

Maybe they are. She gains free legal drugs, a cool title and weightloss.

How is having ADhD cool? It’s wrecked my life and the lives of my children. How is that cool?

CiffHang3r · 12/08/2025 21:29

MyLimeGuide · 12/08/2025 18:53

Because I just know. Well she has it about as much as I do (i also tick all the boxes) i also tick all the autism trait boxes but its not enough to determine a SEN diagnosis is my opinion its just being a human. There is limited resources for SEN people I would like it if it was saved for the deserved and much needed.

Ticking trait boxes isn’t going to get you a diagnosis. Anybody who thinks it’s just being human does not have it.

LlamaNoDrama · 12/08/2025 19:17

MyLimeGuide · 12/08/2025 19:10

Maybe they are. She gains free legal drugs, a cool title and weightloss.

A cool to title? Like Mrs Smith (ADHD)

MyLimeGuide · 12/08/2025 19:10

x2boys · 12/08/2025 18:57

So why would she get a diagnosis if she doesn't have ADHD are you saying those that assessed her are incompetent ?and what does she gain from it?

Maybe they are. She gains free legal drugs, a cool title and weightloss.

x2boys · 12/08/2025 18:57

MyLimeGuide · 12/08/2025 18:53

Because I just know. Well she has it about as much as I do (i also tick all the boxes) i also tick all the autism trait boxes but its not enough to determine a SEN diagnosis is my opinion its just being a human. There is limited resources for SEN people I would like it if it was saved for the deserved and much needed.

So why would she get a diagnosis if she doesn't have ADHD are you saying those that assessed her are incompetent ?and what does she gain from it?

MyLimeGuide · 12/08/2025 18:53

x2boys · 12/08/2025 18:39

How do you know she doesn't have it?
Why do you think you know better than the professional, s that diagnosed her?

Because I just know. Well she has it about as much as I do (i also tick all the boxes) i also tick all the autism trait boxes but its not enough to determine a SEN diagnosis is my opinion its just being a human. There is limited resources for SEN people I would like it if it was saved for the deserved and much needed.

x2boys · 12/08/2025 18:39

MyLimeGuide · 12/08/2025 18:33

ADHD is the new cool isn't it? Or just making a label (or excuse) for goddam human traits!! Yes ADHD exists but everyone thinks they have it now - YOU DONT BTW. My SIL has been diagnosed ADHD (She definitely does NOT have it) drugs made her lose weight. Then all of a sudden my sister has it!! (She really really doesn't have it!!) Its ridiculous people! Grow up and stop ruining it for actual SEN humans.

How do you know she doesn't have it?
Why do you think you know better than the professional, s that diagnosed her?

MyLimeGuide · 12/08/2025 18:33

ADHD is the new cool isn't it? Or just making a label (or excuse) for goddam human traits!! Yes ADHD exists but everyone thinks they have it now - YOU DONT BTW. My SIL has been diagnosed ADHD (She definitely does NOT have it) drugs made her lose weight. Then all of a sudden my sister has it!! (She really really doesn't have it!!) Its ridiculous people! Grow up and stop ruining it for actual SEN humans.

perfectstorm · 12/08/2025 16:56

flawlessflipper · 09/08/2025 16:41

Sorry if you already know this, but it is possible to sit the theory test at home if it wouldn’t be possible for them to sit it in a centre. Still 2 strangers, but not the same as a test centre if DS would cope with that.

Do you have driving lessons as part of DS’s EOTIS package?

No, I didn't - thank you so much! Will call the local test centre and ask about this. I should have considered it, given his exam arrangements in other ways, but it's been a tad full on with my (apparently completely fine, according to many on this thread!) kids both in appeal this year.

Slimtoddy · 11/08/2025 07:06

@Whatthefuck3456 how many people are you assessing think they have ADHD because of social media and don't have it? And how many come to you because of social media and do get assessed as having ADHD.

JoyDivision79 · 10/08/2025 22:39

Yes this makes sense. I have lots of traits that look like ADHD. I know it isn't ADHD. I have a rather traumatic past and I do believe the theory that this could manifest with some ADHD looking traits in passing for some. But it doesn't compare, I agree.

My son has significant executive functioning difficulty and is always in trouble and annoying people especially in school. That has a profound impact on his life. You can't compare it to my somewhat ADHD passing looking traits. I'm certainly NT and in long term therapy. ND is prevalent on child father's side.

Again I need to quantity this. Are these SM people actually getting fake diagnosed? I find that hard to believe.

I know we have plenty a charlatan and incompetent medical professionals a plenty. Yet, if I'm running a private practice, I'd be conscious of my reputation in dishing out unfounded diagnoses.

Again I'm not too oo clear on the problem with people saying I feel I have ADHD. I believe them. I never met one person saying this where I disagreed in my personal life. It was a aha moment tbh. There are 4 adults I know of.

Does it discredit the true struggles if people are using silly examples on SM? Yes. I could see how it could. Again, how do we know how tough life is for someone who seems ok on the outside. We can't judge how hard life is by looking because there's often alot bubbling under the surface and then one day these people will crash. If there are Airheads on SM saying I'm forgetful so I have ADHD - yes that's really grating. I'm not on it to see this luckily. SM is generally a cesspit to me.

I'm not sold basically on the suggestion we have a significant number of people blagging it. And those that are - will receive zero rewards, perks, benefits or anything positive. Again, there's no gain despite suggestions made by some here. I see nothing but difficulty and expense for those impacted.

Whatthefuck3456 · 10/08/2025 22:14

It’s so sad. I assess adhd. Because of social media everyone has adhd. When in reality people who post on social media should be putting the information into the correct context. Neurotypical people who experience anxiety, low mood, vitamin d deficiency, poor sleep, stress; they will have adhd traits for a short period of time. Everyone can relate to adhd traits at some point in their life. People with adhd have these symptoms consistently and the symptoms affect all domains of life, are a barrier to them reaching their potential, etc. it’s horrendous how this has happened as adhd is a neurodevelopmental disorder, yet this everyone has adhd is unfair and is causing collateral damage for people who actually have ADHD.

XjustagirlX · 10/08/2025 21:40

x2boys · 10/08/2025 11:23

So he's also showing signs in school to gotcha
You are contradicting yourself all over the place.

What are you talking about? He has no signs of ADHD. He is naughty at school but that not an ADHD sign. However loads of parents are incorrectly saying bad behaviour must mean ADHD.

Throwitawayagain · 10/08/2025 21:39

In addition, the study you link to doesn't show causation.
I'm not saying there wasn't causation, just that you can't conclude it from from this study. For example, subjects with a higher medication burden might have been more highly medicated due to a crossover of hypomania and executive dysfunction. In addition, all the subjects were psychiatric inpatients. Not readily applicable to the general population.

Kreepture · 10/08/2025 21:35

Delphinium20 · 10/08/2025 20:49

If ADHD meds are not highly addictive substances, as claimed above, then why are they controlled substances and have warning labels that they can be habit-forming? If the UK bans some of these meds because of that, that's wonderful news. Where I live in the US, Adderall and Ritlin and others like Vyvanse are not banned, so I may not be informed on one specific country's policies, but I am well informed on mine. Since we share a language, and since English is a lingua franca in much of the world, narratives of neurodiversity (not a medical term) are spread rapid speed around the world, which worries me.

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the amount of times i've forgotten to take my meds, trust me, they're not addictive.

They may have that effect on people who don't have ADHD, i couldn't say, i don't know anyone stupid enough to abuse stimulants... but no-one i know who takes them on prescription finds them addictive in any way.

ADHD meds help us function normally, the replace something the brain/body doesn't provide.

People who DONT need them, wouldn't be missing that thing.

Throwitawayagain · 10/08/2025 21:27

Delphinium20 · 10/08/2025 21:09

You mean this nonsense from the NYTimes, April 13, 2025:

"Amphetamines can be powerfully addictive, and last year, a study in The American Journal of Psychiatry found that even a medium-strength daily dose of Adderall more than tripled a patient’s likelihood of developing psychosis or mania."

Adderall is not available in the UK, for good reason.

frozendaisy · 10/08/2025 21:11

tumblingdowntherabbithole · 10/08/2025 19:10

@frozendaisy (I was going to quote your post but it got a bit long!)

I know two families, so there must be others, who went to numerous private assessments with their children and didn’t stop until one gave them medication.

And do you know the ins and outs of those children, their medical records and what those assessments entailed, plus all the outcomes? I'm guessing not.

A couple of adults who had been functioning fine then decided to just, well basically give up most of their adult responsibilities and pile a whole heap onto their spouse (and families) after an ADHD diagnosis.

Yes, because it's incredibly common for a diagnosis to lead to unmasking.

Some people do want a ND diagnosis, for whatever reason, and it seems can get one if they pay. Did you see the BBC documentary, the reporter got a diagnosis by an online hour interview. Why does that service exist?

As I've tried to say, no sensible, mentally well person seeks out a diagnosis that will actively limit their lives. If it's not ND, then they clearly have other things going on that need to be investigated.

So people do want a prescription however sketchy the diagnosis. Maybe not you, and no not everyone, but to think people aren’t seeking out these things is incorrect they are.

See above.

And social media has a part to play. So now when someone tells you they are ND it’s becoming harder to believe them, and for our teens it’s so prevalent they just shrug and go “oh” because they know what comes next, they are expected to make all the accommodations for their peer’s behaviour, so now they just give them a wide berth. They aren’t nasty or rude but they are fed up of being told they triggered someone by doing something normally teenage and not being aware of whatever it was being on someone’s trigger list. This is where some teens are now. And you really can’t blame them.

Well yes, you can blame them. Just because something is prevalent, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

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The two families I know, not know of, I know quite well - their pursuit of a diagnosis and their decisions over how they use brain drugs in their children is, well difficult to understand

The adults who have been diagnosed have turned into selfish arseholes whose children are suffering the most and their spouses are living lives full of obligation, it’s not fun, so perhaps yes early diagnosis might help everyone make choices where they don’t end up with obligations and no support or even enjoyment.

You blame my teens for being teens? They are allowed to have friends and fun like teens always have. They do include others but when you have a group hanging out and it becomes dictated because one can’t watch this, or go here, or eat this or be around others eating this or basically dictating the whole group to this sterile environment, then yes I don’t blame my teens for saying, yeah this isn’t for us. I have watched them trying and trying and adapting and still being called out. So no I don’t blame them, you can, it’s irrelevant they live, learn and make their own choices.

Social media has a lot to answer for, people think you don’t them because they are ND but that’s not the case you just don’t like them because you can’t even be 10% you around them it’s all their way or no way. And then no matter how hard you try to accommodate you get called ableist - which kind of proves that no matter what you do it will never be enough.

But yes if some find answers then great, but to say social media doesn’t cause many problems in all aspects of life is just uninformed.

CiffHang3r · 10/08/2025 21:11

MegaMinion34 · 10/08/2025 20:36

Agreed. It used to be that many went undiagnosed but now it appears to have gone too far the other way and every other person has ADHD/autism/is ND in some way. Normal variations in personality, energy levels, interests etc are now symptoms.

It does a disservice to people who are genuinely ND and who's lives are genuinely impacted by it.

Nope it’s still very much under diagnosed and no every other persons most certainly does not have autism or adhd.

More info most definitely does not do a dis service to those impacted by it and I speak as somebody diagnosed with both who has children whose lives are massively impacted by both.