social media is convincing all our kids they are nd?

perhaps controversial, but I don’t believe in BPD as
a diagnosis at all. Always given to women. Awful label/diagnosis IMO

On a course I attended through work a couple of years ago, a psychologist gave a presentation about autisitc spectrum disorders and how they are often misdiagnosed in women and girls because they tend to present differently from boys and men.

They reckoned that an awful lot (can't recall the actual figure) of autistic women and girls are misdiagnosed with borderline personality disorder when they are actually autistic.

One of my nieces has a BPD diagnosis, and I'm convinced she's been misdiagnosed. She has a sibling who was diagnosed with Aspergers at 12, and half-sibling who was diagnosed autistic at 8.

@GeniuneWorkOfFart you certainly shouldn’t dismiss someone having adhd just because they appear to cope with life. You would say that about me but you would have no idea about the ways in which I have struggled just to keep the show on the road. The wheels are coming off now I’m hitting peri menopause which is quite common for high functioning adhd in women.

No one is saying that. It’s the people who a few years ago would have said they are ‘a little bit OCD’ when they mean they just like things to be tidy. This is about NT people who can’t cope with the fact that sometimes life is difficult.

It’s like people insisting I must have dyscalculia.

I am shit at maths, always have been. I used to cry at 5 years old as I already didn’t understand it, couldn’t do it, found it boring and pointless.

I got As and Bs in all my other GCSEs but got an E in Maths. I wanted to do an access to uni course in my 30s and had to retake maths and get a C. I re took it 3 times and failed each time. I spent a fortune on tutoring. I even failed functional skill maths! I can’t do it, I gave up and didn’t do the access course.

Even on here, when I mention that, it’s “you must have dyscalculia!” I don’t. I don’t have any of the other symptoms at all. I just hate maths. My brain switches off because honestly, it’s boring as fuck and I’ve got a calculator on my phone.

But I can’t just be shit at maths and no motivation to do it, I must have a label to go with it.

Depends where you look, more are being started up all the time.

Exactly -
use of social media / screen addiction can look like ND -
difficulty with focus and concentration.
dopamine seeking
poor sleep / circadian rhythms
difficulty with social settings and interpersonal communication

it’s like online becomes an echo chamber of creating and then reinforcing the idea that people have ND or gender dysphoria etc etc

yes. There will be far far more research on the effects of
smartphones and attention deficit in future. Many if not most children (and adults) are completely addicted.

It’s not rubbish, plenty of posts saying just that.

To get a new car "because of diagnosis", they must have got the enhanced rate of the mobility element.

I've worked in welfare rights for 18 years, working entirely with clients with MH and ND issues and I have never got enhanced mobility for ASD or ADHD alone. I suspect there may be other factors at play.

The only instance of this I have ever come across was when a friend got higher rate mobility DLA for her autistic, non-verbal child. She had to use a wheelchair for him when out because he was so freaked out by any flying insect that he would just bolt.

Ironically, my son told me that his concentration and attention improved massively after he deleted tiktok

I’ve come to the conclusion everyone is and I’m feeling more and more sorry for parents and people who have real problems and issues it must be heartbreaking for them and making it so much harder to navigate support.

What rubbish. Nobody has said anything of the sort.

Complaining about posts on a thread you haven't even read is a bit silly isn't it.

Excellent. Another post scolding neurodivergent people for existing. Apparently there's too many of us now and That's Not OK.

What is particularly not OK is the female presentation of neurodivergence. If we don't display the typically male traits we're clearly not worthy of a diagnosis.

In the UK, you don't get a diagnosis easily, regardless of what TikTok tells you.

I can't even read this full thread - the first page or so was enough for me. It's honestly just enraging.

I used to work for a private centre assessing ASD and ADHD. I don’t anymore because every second person who came in had been online, diagnosed themselves and the diagnostic criteria seemed to be somewhat extended by (some, not all) assessors and I think the self funded aspect played a key part. Nobody seemed to have an issue with this, but as a lifelong diagnosis, I wanted to be absolutely certain. I stick to therapeutic interventions these days with focus on the whole person, based on what they can do. Having worked in this area for a decade or so, I’m not convinced that the tiktok/identity politics around ASD is healthy longterm. I’ve also seen a decline in some when they receive a diagnosis, almost like its
confirmed what they’re unable to do, so they stop
trying altogether. Not always but in a significant percentage of cases.

An adult would surely be able to look back over life for issues at school, drunkenness as a teen, etcetcetc
So anyone just deciding at 40 that they have adhd without any previous probably hasn’t got it

Support groups aren't always accessible though

I'll be 70 next week. I'm having an autism assessment on Monday!

Oh I'm very grateful my son got his diagnosis. For me it wouldn't change anything and I prefer not to think about my youth because it's too painful and obviously I would have to do this if I'd want a diagnosis. I can't believe people actually want to be ND. As far as my son is concerned it has only come with suffering for him.

I get those to my FYP. I most certainly lying have ADHD based on the videos. And majority of the things they take about are just human things that we all do.

This is the reason we need to teach media reading skills.

You may think it is helpful, but you don’t have to. It is a choice you decide to make when you could just as easily say you think you are autistic/have ADHD or are awaiting an assessment.

Nope, for many of us identifying as we are is necessary and helpful. My dd was identified as ND before her diagnoses by nhs professionals.

I think diagnosis is important, but reasonable adjustments do not require a diagnosis.

My dd had to do a test during an introduction period at work (nhs) She is mildly dyslexic, didn’t affect her massively at school. She just needs a bit more time to process stuff sometimes. So was given more time on tests etc. Did pretty well at school and college.
One of the managers (not directly in charge of her) said the way she did the task suggested she should be tested for adhd, she completed it very well but did it an odd order apparently.
She has absolutely no symptoms of ADHD, no difficulty following instructions, she’s very organised & manages her time well, doing well at work and in life general. Stays calm at work and deals with crisis well if necessary. Deals with life admin well etc.
She really pushed her to be tested, kept on saying you might as well. My dd said no thank you and as far as she was aware she didn’t think it was necessary. She had been doing the job as an apprentice previously and got top marks and feed back.
Why she kept asking I don’t know. This was about a year ago and since has flourished at work and has been given more responsibility and gets good feedback. But she seemed very keen to help her get a diagnosis and kept saying we can get it done quickly through occupational health.

We have to because wait lists are so long.

As someone who has ASD and ADHD diagnoses with 3 diagnosed autistic DC, one of whom has diagnosed ADHD too, I don’t understand this. You don’t have to. You choose to. You could equally say you are awaiting an assessment.