To think Kate and William saw Harry and Meghan as a real threat to their image?

Hi Meghan

Let me spell it out for you, Williams and Catherine are the future King and Queen of this country. You will always play second fiddle to them and I firmly believe the only one threatened was you as you couldn’t get your own way

Catherine, as well as Sophie all tried to help you mitigate into and old family, set in their ways, and actually Harry should have supported you better and explained how the image of the RF works in this country, changes will be made but slowly

Because you didn’t get your own way, stamping your feet, you threw your toys out of your pram and left, good we don’t need Royals you and your husband

you can learn a lot from the current, smaller Royal Family

I agree to an extent. I'd never heard of her and I don't suppose anyone had unless they'd watched "Suits". But, had she stayed in the RF, her public presence would have grown by default. She was everything the RF needed. She's attractive, black, got some charity work credentials behind her and she's a commoner. And at that time everyone loved the man she married - Harry. They would've appealed to young people (who generally don't give a toss about the Royals) way more tham K &W ever could, or ever will.

There was so much goodwill towards Harry and Meghan in the early days - they could have carved out a meaningful, and glamorous role for themselves but neither was up to the job, which is a pity.

They had it on a plate and turned their backs. They seem happy as a couple so maybe it was the best for them.

Kate got a lot of unfair shit in the beginning & then it was transferred to Meghan. It's embarrassing tbh.

Who knows, but YANBU to think it’s a possibility. Kate had been the unquestioned darling of the media for years, so pretty, look at her in her lovely clothes etc. I think it’s just human nature that she might have found it a bit difficult to suddenly be sharing that spotlight, especially with someone that she apparently didn’t particularly get on with.

I think Kate would have married William regardless of his royal status and had an easy, happy life like her sister Pippa and her billionaire husband. I suspect that she was relieved that she got a break from being in the media and that she would happily give up her for fame tomorrow

It also depends what you mean by glamorous? They met Beyoncé but W&C met with Tom Cruise on more than one occasion and he seems to really like living in the UK which is good for the UK film industry.

If William felt any sibling rivalry it could have been during Harry’s national second favourite royal days but that’s before Meghan.

I suppose an impact is one way of calling it

I’d imagine they are more “embarrassed by” than “threatened by” what with all the dirty laundry that H&M have aired….

Nah, tampon gate has primed them 😆

Agree. Never heard of her before she met Harry.

I’d imagine they are more “embarrassed by” than “threatened by” what with all the dirty laundry that H&M have aired….

Diana certainly had a modern, global profile.

If anything it was Meghan who thought she was going to outshine W and K, and she did liven things up when she first came on the scene.

When she realised she wasn't going to, she flounced off with H trailing at her heels.

She could have achieved a lot as Royal but nothing as photogenic and SM friendly as making jam with her 'friends'.

Did Meghan really have a strong public presence before she got with Harry? I had honestly never heard of her before that point nor of that series she was in. It's not like she was a big Hollywood name.

This is the wrong forum for it though OP, people are irrational when it comes to H&M.

I’m sure in 20 years Charlotte will also apparently be so jealous of a new sister in law. It’s so tediously predictable we could write the headlines now.

True but it's depressing how the public lap it up.

Even if the public saw H and M as exciting and glamorous and W and K as a bit staid and boring, it’s irrelevant as W and K get the top jobs and staid, traditional and perhaps a bit dull are the qualities required for the role.

I think they were threatened or at least their aides were. Harry was very popular & Meghan was ready to speak publicly etc due to her job whereas Kate needed years of training which would be the norm.

I actually think they would have been a great foursome, something for everyone. For some reason the aides, press, etc pit Royals against each other.

"glamorous, charismatic, and had a strong public presence - something the royal family hadn’t seen before from an outsider."

Oh yes, they have seen it before. You're basically describing Diana. She had the whole package and wanted to modernise things too. Charles was utterly consumed with jealousy about the attention she received.

I think the future king may well feel threatened by them but not because of his or their popularity but more because of the possibility of them damaging the reputation of the, (especially his and his son's) monarchy during the next forty years. I'd imagine seeing the effects Andrew's actions have had on monarchy's reputation presumably plays a big part. Not sure there's any more to it than that. I don't think there's any concern re serious scandals but just concerns that publicity will be ongoing for years in a time where anything and everything from that which is clearly totally true to that which is clearly absolute rubbish can and will attract the same media presence.

Though why any country has a monarchy is beyond me anyway tbh! ...

No. If there was any perceived 'threat', it would have been the other way around. William and Catherine have absolutely nothing to be worried about.

I feel pity for Harry, though, and I wish he was able to recognise what has/is being done to him. I'd welcome him and his children back to the UK.

I think, if they had any sense, they’d have known from experience that the media is shallow and also follows pretty clear patterns.

When Kate married William, there were stories about how the York sisters didn’t like her because she was so glamorous and beautiful and took attention away from them. That narrative pretty much completely disappeared a while ago.
Fergie and Diana had similar stories as well.
Whoever Harry married would have had stories about how they didn’t get along with Kate and isn’t Kate so jealous because the new wife is a) so similar to Kate that she feels threatened, or b) so different to Kate that she feels threatened.

I’m sure in 20 years Charlotte will also apparently be so jealous of a new sister in law. It’s so tediously predictable we could write the headlines now.

Nailed it