To think Kate and William saw Harry and Meghan as a real threat to their image?

Because it would have been very embarrassing if the public preferred a prince and his wife to the king and queen.

If the public don't like the King and Queen, it will become a problem.

Just like when the public adored Princess Diana and didn't like Charles.

Fine! I like to read a lot, so am always looking for different and interesting things. I never knew Stalin, I don't like him, but that was an interesting book. I can't imagine limiting myself to only reading about people I like!
Still. We're all different.

I call it lack of class, lack of education, promiscuity with financial gain in mind

How old are you @Bathingforest? Such a bizarre way of thinking, incredibly misogynistic.

There is no comparison between Diana and Megan. Diana was loved by people from all over the world. Megan is nowhere close. Nor has she done anything to match what Diana did for humanitarian causes.

Sorry, an older wife for Harry with seriously not ideal moral background, semi laughing when their relatives were buried, shaking her ass in a hospital like a total moron, without any education, going into the Queen's private space on purpose to upset all the protocols.....you call all this glamour, charisma ...and what else.

I call it lack of class, lack of education, promiscuity with financial gain in mind

@bumbaloo never thought of that

Is this you megan?

seriously though. Megan had a ‘global profile’ to those who watched a pretty average tv series.

she could have been the best thing y happen to the royal family in decades. Instead she’s probably one of the worst (rivalling andy) and her husbands toddler esque melt downs. They both need to grow up

I think this assumption that the royals care about their popularity is a total misunderstanding.

Someone like William - shy, introverted, awkward and gauche probably wishes he’d been born into any family but that one. Same with Charles. They are not exactly Gatsby are they? Dutiful but no charisma. I think ironically they're all probably secret republicans at heart wishing for the day the monarchy is dismantled and they can just heave a sigh of relief it’s all over and disappear and talk to the trees.

The fact that you think W&K sit of an evening stewing over the ‘popularity’ of Harry and his narcissist hand holder is laughable.

No I don’t, personally I believe Harry and Megan were media scape goats to sway from Andrew’s peodo ring!

@OrangeAxolotyl alas I don't have time to read about things i'm not interested in, there is enough i'm interested in.

I'm on a 10 hour journey but get car sick if I read. Very annoying.

Even if this is so the RF know they've got far superior image managers - look at the job they did with Harry - so I don't think they have any reason to worry

Remember too that they already knew the real person, as opposed to the version the public were fed, and I doubt there was anything there they'd want to compete with

And what competition with someone like Meghan - better twerking skills?

I think the royal palace likes to keep the animosity and gossip. It is as often the case, keep the proles arguing and bickering amongst themselves and they won’t stop to question the whole fact that the institution of monarchy is in complete contradiction to a true democrat.

The fact that Megan often wore black and was bare legged

bare legged?! the jezebel! Imagine if Meghan flashed her bum like Kate did, there would have been riots!

I think most people just feel sad for harry, he's not the brightest, had alot of trauma, and now he's messed things up so badly

Maybe. I think the internal machinations at the palace are complicated and there are a lot of egos involved. I don’t understand, for example, why the have separate PR teams (Charles and William). Ultimately though W and C will be King and Queen.

I think H and M could have made a massive contribution but again, egos were involved. Meghan in particular needed to step back and watch for a while.

I find it really funny how the media works. The villified Kate at beginning, she was lazy hanging around for William not to mention the digs about her mother’s past.

They are turning a bit again though, it's like there always has to be a punchbag. So bizarre!

There was no competition. William and Kate are meant to be safe and reliable, they're going to be king and queen, people don't actually want them to be loose cannons, they are supposed to be responsible and serious. Harry and Meghan were supposed to be the fun and slightly rebellious ones who stopped the RF from being completely boring. Two distinct roles. And most people think Harry and Meghan had the better deal; all the privilege, none of the responsibility, so much more (relative) freedom.

This is the sort of inaccuracy that some people insist on perpetuating which is odd as the evidence is online fir the world to see

Diana frequently did not wear tights. And she was married to the heir to the throne. and was an earlier generation when rules were even more adhered to. Fergie frequently didn’t wear them whilst married to Andrew. Zara, Beatrice and Eugenie pretty much never wear tights.

it’s not a rule. It’s a preference for some women in the RF.

I read loads. I read a great book about Lucien Freud. Don't like him, never knew him, interesting, though.
Outside the box, always illuminating.

its just so juvenile to not be able to engage in a conversation without resorting to these sort of theatrics.

I do find it fascinating though, why does it have to be so divisive? We are t as liking about strangers for goodness sake not personal friends & family. But maybe that is the relationship some have with the RF? It's their version of Eastenders!

I find it really funny how the media works. The villified Kate at beginning, she was lazy hanging around for William not to mention the digs about her mother’s past. Now they love her and she’s amazing. Megan was opposite. Amazing at start just what royal family needed. now she’s the devil personified. Has taken Harry away. It’s just bizarre and I hope they all are happy in their lives based on how they want to live it

Agree. Never heard of her before she met Harry

Nor me

Absolutely barking …

(Oh and mitigate? Help me out here)

Yep, she'd not have wanted to share the spotlight if she couldn't even share some lip gloss

Really? To me, that's strange.
I've read books on Stalin, Edward VIII, Churchill and many others. I don't just read about people I like. How limiting. I like to find out about what makes people tick.