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Do childless couples have better sex lives?

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cjfrh1985 · 09/08/2025 11:18

…..because the woman’s body doesn’t change (assuming she doesn’t gain weight, and obviously ageing happens)?

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Whatapileofshit · 10/08/2025 12:21

KPPlumbing · 10/08/2025 12:17

For us, probably yes.

We've got more time, more energy, and my body is pretty much the same at 41 as it was at 18 - I'm exactly the same size and shape and have had the time, money and inclination to maintain an exercise regime my entire life.

We often have Sunday afternoon sex because we can.

Are you bragging that you have weekly sex at a time that most people are home and available for sex? I'm confused. I'm also confused that anyone has the exact body shape as when they were 18 and isn't 19.

Drivingmissrangey · 10/08/2025 12:20

My body is still pretty decent. I expect menopause will change it far more than pregnancy and childbirth did.

The issue is more available time. I was never much of an evening sex person, more in the morning. That’s pretty much impossible with young kids. It’s not that much fun when you’re constantly listening out for small people on the move or shouting out for you.

PuttingOnTheKitsch · 10/08/2025 12:20

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 12:13

Thanks. If your children have moved out you must be 40//50s?

I’m 20s but I always thought that by 50 people were having much less sex anyway (not none, but less).

In your twenties, but have 1985 in your username? Interesting.

Just be honest with the woman you're with and say:

"I don't want to have children. I'm trying to convince you to think the same so I've gone on Mumsnet for proof that having children makes your sex life crap. This is because I am such a red hot lover, I'm certain the thought of less sex with me will override any desire you might have for children"

Problem solved.

Whatapileofshit · 10/08/2025 12:18

ToKittyornottoKitty · 10/08/2025 12:16

Are you male or female?

The whole premise of the OP is that sex life is based on the hotness of the female partner. So unless the OP is a lesbian (and I don't know who any talk like that), I think we know the OP's sex

Drivingmissrangey · 10/08/2025 12:17

Scottishdreams1991 · 10/08/2025 11:44

Definitely. Even when the kids get older they stay awake longer and by the time they are asleep so are you. If anything it was easier when they were younger

Oh man don’t say that!

KPPlumbing · 10/08/2025 12:17

For us, probably yes.

We've got more time, more energy, and my body is pretty much the same at 41 as it was at 18 - I'm exactly the same size and shape and have had the time, money and inclination to maintain an exercise regime my entire life.

We often have Sunday afternoon sex because we can.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 10/08/2025 12:16

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 12:13

Thanks. If your children have moved out you must be 40//50s?

I’m 20s but I always thought that by 50 people were having much less sex anyway (not none, but less).

Are you male or female?

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 12:15

vincettenoir · 10/08/2025 12:10

I think you’re starting from the wrong premise if you think having a body that hasn’t birthed children is what’s central to a good sex life. I think sex-drive, lifestyle, health and good communication are better predictors. I think having small children means that couples’ sex lives always almost take a hit. But whether that means childless couples have better sex over a lifetime or not, I don’t know. It will depend on so much.

Yes I think you’re right - childless couples, married for years, don’t be in a constant state of passion and wanting to rip each others’ clothes off 😅They’ll see the worst of each other like any other couple does.

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FortheloveofCheesus · 10/08/2025 12:14

Perimenopause is having way more impact than pregnancy/childbirth/kids did. I lost the "baby weight" after DS quite easily, was back in size 10 etc. The weight gain in perimenopause is horrendous and I can't shift the tummy!!

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 12:13

Titsywoo · 10/08/2025 11:52

Depends on the couple and the ages of the children etc and the same for the childless people! Me and DH have always had a good sex life. Our kids have now moved out and our sex life is a bit up and down (no pun intended) because of my libido changes in perimenopause. The shape of my body and his has never made a difference to our sex life and we have both been thin and fat over the last 23 years.

Thanks. If your children have moved out you must be 40//50s?

I’m 20s but I always thought that by 50 people were having much less sex anyway (not none, but less).

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vincettenoir · 10/08/2025 12:10

I think you’re starting from the wrong premise if you think having a body that hasn’t birthed children is what’s central to a good sex life. I think sex-drive, lifestyle, health and good communication are better predictors. I think having small children means that couples’ sex lives always almost take a hit. But whether that means childless couples have better sex over a lifetime or not, I don’t know. It will depend on so much.

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 12:09

SkylarFalls · 09/08/2025 12:28

I have child free siblings and wider family and aesthetically/physically we have aged on the same tragectorty.

It's genes and a bit of lifestyle.

Yeah, I know quite a few women who went back to the gym after babies and kept their old figure (with stretch marks of course, but those are nothing to be ashamed of).

There’s also the fact that menopause changes all women’s bodies, and sex drive declines with age for everyone anyway.

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Whatapileofshit · 10/08/2025 12:04

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Whatapileofshit · 10/08/2025 12:01

MoFadaCromulent · 09/08/2025 11:55

More sleep
More disposable income
Skinnier wife
More spontaneity

So yeah

Mumsnet used to be full of witty intelligent posts, and now we get threads like this full of post like this shit.

"Skinnier wife" that's the key to good sex.

Or posts from childless women talking about their sister's broken child bearing vaginas, charming. If the sex were that good, it wouldn't all be ONS my friend. You/they would want to go there twice.

Ifailed · 10/08/2025 11:57

I had the most active sex life when TTC our first, does that count?

Lurkingandlearning · 10/08/2025 11:55

Less interruptions and more spontaneity, surely that alone is better

Sleepygrumpyandnothappy · 10/08/2025 11:54

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 11:26

Not goady, no. I’m just a stage where I’m thinking about how children can affect a relationship. I don’t have kids yet, not sure I want them.

Ok, well kids stand a good chance of ruining your sex life for a while, but the way your body has changed (which can be minimal you know) is likely to be far down the list of reasons.

Titsywoo · 10/08/2025 11:52

Depends on the couple and the ages of the children etc and the same for the childless people! Me and DH have always had a good sex life. Our kids have now moved out and our sex life is a bit up and down (no pun intended) because of my libido changes in perimenopause. The shape of my body and his has never made a difference to our sex life and we have both been thin and fat over the last 23 years.

justasking111 · 10/08/2025 11:48

harriethoyle · 09/08/2025 11:50

I really need to 🤣 reaction back for this comment!

I don't even know what that means 😂

Scottishdreams1991 · 10/08/2025 11:44

Definitely. Even when the kids get older they stay awake longer and by the time they are asleep so are you. If anything it was easier when they were younger

MochiPie · 10/08/2025 11:36

Not for those reasons (for me anyway) but wouldn’t that be normal? I had a way better sex life before I had kids!

KawasakiBabe · 10/08/2025 11:31

I’ve had 2 csections, so no change to my vagina for birth reasons. But children in the house is a dampener.

My eldest has now moved out and my second spends a lot of time at her boyfriends, empty house and things have picked up quite dramatically woo hoo!!!

cjfrh1985 · 10/08/2025 11:26

Sleepygrumpyandnothappy · 09/08/2025 11:50

Anyone else trying to work out if the OP is just goady or speaking from a place of pain?

But no OP, that’s not why.

Not goady, no. I’m just a stage where I’m thinking about how children can affect a relationship. I don’t have kids yet, not sure I want them.

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SkylarFalls · 09/08/2025 12:28

I have child free siblings and wider family and aesthetically/physically we have aged on the same tragectorty.

It's genes and a bit of lifestyle.

SkylarFalls · 09/08/2025 12:24

MegaMinion34 · 09/08/2025 12:05

I mean yes, children can change your body but I don't think that's the main reason. I think it's more tiredness (both mental and physical), stress, worrying about the children waking up etc that contributes more. For what it's worth, DH and I have two young kids (both under 7) and have a great sex life. Children doesn't automatically mean your sex life is forever ruined. It ebbs and flows.

Whenever theres discussions about child free Vs parent lifestyles though, the young child period is so disproportionately heavily weighted

And as a parent who is long past that period, much as it felt endless and vast at the time, it was really such a short episode in our lifetimes (unless you have 20 kids!)

I think this when things like happiness is compared too.. are they comparing parents of 30 year olds to child free couples?

Financially YES you plan differently and live differently even with full grown adults children, but sex? Bodies?

Are we really claiming that childbirth is the only thing that ages a body, and child free 65 year olds are nubile slim and pert?

And that having sex as an empty nester is nothing like the sex child free couples of the same age are having?

So no, I don't think child free couples have better, or more sex over the course of their marriages and lifetimes

They might not have pregnancies and births, or toddlers or wayward teens.. but there'll be plenty of other ups and downs: times of stress, variable health, mental health, other life upheavals, aging, changing....

And I think that any long term child free couple that imagine children as a permanent passion duller, are going to struggle to overcome whatever else life throws at their relationship and sex life.