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To think previous owners of our new house were being unreasonable?

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TheGrumpyAccountant · 08/08/2025 21:11

Today was moving day. Having sold our house, we packed up and cleaned yesterday so that we could do a final clean/take last minute stuff today. All of our belongings were out and being stored as of yesterday afternoon. We handed in keys at 10.30am this morning and our funds were transferred to the solicitor of our sellers before 11am. At 1.15pm we were told that we could collect the keys to our new house from their solicitors. When we arrived at the new house the previous occupants were just ‘chilling’ in the house (despite having meant to have handed all keys to their solicitors). Standing with my toddler and newborn, when I (very politely) spoke to them they said that they had not yet been told they could collect their keys for their new house and so refused to leave until they knew they had somewhere to go as if something went wrong they’d have nowhere to go. I pointed out that if they don’t leave WE would have nowhere to go. After some quick calls to lawyers they were told they had to leave, so they eventually did.

We are in Scotland in case that makes any difference to legalities etc.

AIBU to this that they were unreasonable in this situation? They’ve really taken the shine off of moving day for me since it all got quite tense and stressy. We are also in the new house over 2 hours later than we could have been.

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BabyCatFace · 09/08/2025 20:28

Blablibladirladada · 09/08/2025 19:48

Ok.
so them being in the house still is irrelevant too.

when you buy a house and your own status of buying is dépendant of your status of sale. I would challenge to say it IS quite relevant. For both parties. It goes up so it was just a matter of time but should a problem in a chain occurs…everyone gets back to their house until sorted.

No, once your buyer's funds have cleared in your account you clear out of the house because you no longer own it. You then wait for your funds to clear in your seller's account. But you do it from OUTSIDE of the house you're selling because it's not yours anymore!

BigAnne · 09/08/2025 19:58

Sometimessmiling · 09/08/2025 19:53

Not in Scotland
Chains mean nothing

Not true. I very recently moved. Everything was held up because my buyer was waiting for their buyers funds to come through.

Sugarplumfairy18 · 09/08/2025 19:57

Similar happened to us. The lady we were buying from was buying a new build. We arrived at our new house (all completed and keys exchanged) and she was sat inside waiting for the construction company to call her to collect her keys. We tried to explain to her that we had a removal van outside waiting to unpack and she was now sat in our house, but she was really rude and just kept saying that she couldn’t leave until she had her keys. We were kind at first and tried to help, but eventually explained this wasn’t our problem and in the end she had to be told to leave by our solicitor. She then sat outside our house for ages! This went on for hours and caused us all sorts of issues as we also had a new fridge freezer etc arriving the same day. People are weird!

Sometimessmiling · 09/08/2025 19:53

Not in Scotland
Chains mean nothing

Blablibladirladada · 09/08/2025 19:48

Seeingadistance · 09/08/2025 19:02

Whether the next ones have completed is irrelevant to the OP.

Ok.
so them being in the house still is irrelevant too.

when you buy a house and your own status of buying is dépendant of your status of sale. I would challenge to say it IS quite relevant. For both parties. It goes up so it was just a matter of time but should a problem in a chain occurs…everyone gets back to their house until sorted.

SpaceRaccoon · 09/08/2025 19:27

When I sold, the prerequisite for the keys getting handed over was the funds arriving with my solicitor. I only actually saw the funds in my own account a few hours after they were in the house already, and it could apparently have taken till the next day.

PigletSanders · 09/08/2025 19:07

Some absolute fools on here who see little wrong with the vendors‘ behaviour. Mindblowing. I can only assume they have little experience of buying and selling houses.

Seeingadistance · 09/08/2025 19:02

Blablibladirladada · 09/08/2025 18:45

It seems they followed the process and somehow you have had an answer before but your solicitors failed to check the next ones have completed too?!

I understand the stress.

people are stressful lol

Whether the next ones have completed is irrelevant to the OP.

Blablibladirladada · 09/08/2025 18:45

It seems they followed the process and somehow you have had an answer before but your solicitors failed to check the next ones have completed too?!

I understand the stress.

people are stressful lol

PumpKim · 09/08/2025 18:37

Similar happened to us, we were relocating. Got the call that funds had transferred and keys available. We got the keys and headed to the house to find them still packing and loading the van. Their excuse was that they didn't think we'd move in that day with travelling so far, they had handed a set of keys to the agent but fully intended to move out at their leisure during the course of the day!

SomeOfTheTrouble · 09/08/2025 18:13

NeedWineNow · 09/08/2025 18:09

When we moved we were going into a hotel because of a gap between our sale and purchase completing. All our stuff had gone into storage so we only had final bits to load into the car on moving day.

The purchasers for our house turned up mid morning with their van but we hadn't been told that the funds had landed in our account. They were quite surprised that we were still there but I told them we weren't leaving until we had full confirmation that all was in order and that we could hand over the keys. They ended up lounging in our front garden until we were ready to hand over which was early afternoon. Things were getting a little tense but our lawyer emphasised that we should stay put until everything had gone through.

That’s different to the OP’s scenario though, because the seller had already handed over the keys, which doesn’t happen until the solicitor has informed them that they’ve received the funds and the sale has completed. The seller in this case was refusing to leave because they hadn’t had confirmation that their onward purchase had completed, which is absolutely nothing to do with the OP.

NeedWineNow · 09/08/2025 18:09

When we moved we were going into a hotel because of a gap between our sale and purchase completing. All our stuff had gone into storage so we only had final bits to load into the car on moving day.

The purchasers for our house turned up mid morning with their van but we hadn't been told that the funds had landed in our account. They were quite surprised that we were still there but I told them we weren't leaving until we had full confirmation that all was in order and that we could hand over the keys. They ended up lounging in our front garden until we were ready to hand over which was early afternoon. Things were getting a little tense but our lawyer emphasised that we should stay put until everything had gone through.

MrsPositivity1 · 09/08/2025 17:56

TheBerry · 08/08/2025 21:55

Think you’re overreacting. I’d have been happy to let them stay a couple hours. Be kind, etc.

As she stood with a toddler and newborn- seriously @TheBerry

Keepingthingsinteresting · 09/08/2025 08:46

Saz12 · 08/08/2025 23:17

But, on The Day, the money goes via solicitors escrow accounts and the bank - so thete can be a time lag between you paying for the house and the vendor getting the money through.

So at those points anyone can be a dick about it, ie, I've paid so its mine/ I've not got the money so it's not yours yet.

No, the money being in your solicitors account is considered the same as it being in yours. Once completion is done you have to be out, anything else is pure cheeky fuckery

BBQBertha · 09/08/2025 08:39

Yet again, so many people with so little understanding of the law! The house belonged to OP. The previous owners had zero right to be there. They wouldn’t have been insured to be there and any damage they caused would have become OP’s problem. They should not have been there when OP arrived and I’m not surprised it ruined her arrival in her new home. People work long and hard to buy a home and completion/moving in should not be tainted by idiots who suddenly don’t want to move out and think they’re above the law. They should be fined for the time they overstayed or charged extortionate rent. This kind of situation would soon stop!

Coconutter24 · 09/08/2025 08:16

Didimum · 08/08/2025 21:15

Bit of a mountain out of a molehill, OP. Everything ended up fine.

FWIW, I wouldn’t leave my house until I got the completion call from my solicitor either.

Edited

They had no right to be there everything was completed and transferred, they were stood in OPs house so of course they had to leave.

6strings1song · 09/08/2025 08:13

BlankBlankBlank14 · 09/08/2025 08:04

Exactly this! If the chain doesn’t complete, where it fails is the person that needs to find alternative accommodation. Which is likely to be towards the top of the chain if it’s a time thing.

Yes and infact a good solicitor would advise against letting the vendor stay in your new house as "goodwill" gesture. Are they going to pay you rent? Is your new home insurance valid? What if they flood the place overnight? Are the terms of the mortgage valid? Lots of legal questions and issues. It's unfortunate Doris and Bill's sale didn't complete, but that is their problem to sort out.

DameDiazepamTheDramaQueen · 09/08/2025 08:12

It was mildly inconvenient,not the end of the world. When our friends moved they rocked up at the their new house and the people hadn't even started packing up the house,now that's something to get pissed off about!
We didn't get our keys until gone 5pm as the solicitor forgot to release the money,we were stuck waiting for hours with the vans outside. Things happen and you're in now,just enjoy your new home.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 09/08/2025 08:04

6strings1song · 09/08/2025 07:55

I am shocked by some of these replies. The chain moves from the bottom up. You sign a contract to agree vacant possession, so when the sale completes you get out. This exact situation happened to a relative. Sale completed, moving lorry arrived at new house....owner still inside and refusing to leave until their onward purchase had completed. She refused to let anyone in and lots of calls had to be made to solicitors and agents to explain to the vendor to get out. She did, but in a huff. Solicitors had to explain she would be in breach of contract.

I think solicitors don't explain to people their obligations as part of the process. Our solicitor and agent told us to fill up the lorry and get out of our house by midday. We then sat in Sainsburys carpark waiting for the call, the lorry went to wait outside the new house. Call received, keys collected and we moved in. Our vendors had thankfully done the same thing.

It's complete cheeky fuckery to do otherwise and people are either badly informed or believe the rules don't apply to them. If their onward purchase failed to complete for any reason, then they would need to find a hotel, stay with relatives etc.

Exactly this! If the chain doesn’t complete, where it fails is the person that needs to find alternative accommodation. Which is likely to be towards the top of the chain if it’s a time thing.

6strings1song · 09/08/2025 07:55

I am shocked by some of these replies. The chain moves from the bottom up. You sign a contract to agree vacant possession, so when the sale completes you get out. This exact situation happened to a relative. Sale completed, moving lorry arrived at new house....owner still inside and refusing to leave until their onward purchase had completed. She refused to let anyone in and lots of calls had to be made to solicitors and agents to explain to the vendor to get out. She did, but in a huff. Solicitors had to explain she would be in breach of contract.

I think solicitors don't explain to people their obligations as part of the process. Our solicitor and agent told us to fill up the lorry and get out of our house by midday. We then sat in Sainsburys carpark waiting for the call, the lorry went to wait outside the new house. Call received, keys collected and we moved in. Our vendors had thankfully done the same thing.

It's complete cheeky fuckery to do otherwise and people are either badly informed or believe the rules don't apply to them. If their onward purchase failed to complete for any reason, then they would need to find a hotel, stay with relatives etc.

Constantlypuzzled82 · 09/08/2025 07:45

Am amazed you’ve got time to post haven’t you got boxes to unpack? Relax and enjoy your new home.

GeneticallyModifiedGrump · 09/08/2025 07:40

Pinkgiraffe34567 · 09/08/2025 07:24

When we moved last year our solicitor told us there’s a 1pm rule now, regardless of the timing of completions everyone has to be out of their house by 1pm on moving day. I think this makes good sense.

Where are you? I moved last year and our Sellers were still packing at 4.30pm!
We had been ready since 9am, everything in the moving van - completely ready to go!
We got a call off their estate agent a couple of towns away at about 2pm to collect the keys so off we went. Only to be told when we got there that there had been a mistake and they didn't have the keys (how can you think you have keys you don't have 😤).
I gave up trying to deal with the professionals and drove straight to the new house to speak to the sellers, not to confront them but just to find out what was happening! They are lovely people and explained that they were moving themselves in a van so 5pm would have been the earliest they could be out - their solicitors were aware but hadn't bothered to tell us!
It was a very long, very awful day that culminated in us sleeping in the sofa for the first night as we ran out of time to make our beds up (after doing two doubles for the children!). We had everything unpacked and livable within 3 days and moving day now is just a memory.

BigAnne · 09/08/2025 07:35

NoWordForFluffy · 08/08/2025 22:20

Surely if a number of people in related transactions are all moving on the same day, it's a 'chain'? If there was no chain, there wouldn't have been anyone still in the house to get in the way!

You're right. I'm in Scotland and was recently in a chain of four. Didn't get my keys until 5 p.m

milveycrohn · 09/08/2025 07:32

To the people who said they do not have chains, if you are selling your house and buying another on the same day, that is a chain, albeit just 1 link of a chain.
The problem is that many people think the two contracts are the same, whereas the buying and selling are for 2 separate contracts.
The alternative to a chain is first time buyers (who have no house to sell), or a deceased person/or moving to a Care Home/abroad, who are not actually buying somewhere.
Otherwise, usually people need the funds from the sale of their house to fund their purchase. The alternative to this is to a) either have sufficient savings to purchase a house outright (Yes, I do know someone who is in this position), or b) to sell your house and rent temporarily. And I know several people who did this, thus they had the funds available for the purchase.
I also know someone who did his own conveyancing (without solicitors, and totally legal in England), but this actually made the logistics of transferring the funds / depositing the keys, etc a bit of a nightmare.

Pinkgiraffe34567 · 09/08/2025 07:24

When we moved last year our solicitor told us there’s a 1pm rule now, regardless of the timing of completions everyone has to be out of their house by 1pm on moving day. I think this makes good sense.