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To think previous owners of our new house were being unreasonable?

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TheGrumpyAccountant · 08/08/2025 21:11

Today was moving day. Having sold our house, we packed up and cleaned yesterday so that we could do a final clean/take last minute stuff today. All of our belongings were out and being stored as of yesterday afternoon. We handed in keys at 10.30am this morning and our funds were transferred to the solicitor of our sellers before 11am. At 1.15pm we were told that we could collect the keys to our new house from their solicitors. When we arrived at the new house the previous occupants were just ‘chilling’ in the house (despite having meant to have handed all keys to their solicitors). Standing with my toddler and newborn, when I (very politely) spoke to them they said that they had not yet been told they could collect their keys for their new house and so refused to leave until they knew they had somewhere to go as if something went wrong they’d have nowhere to go. I pointed out that if they don’t leave WE would have nowhere to go. After some quick calls to lawyers they were told they had to leave, so they eventually did.

We are in Scotland in case that makes any difference to legalities etc.

AIBU to this that they were unreasonable in this situation? They’ve really taken the shine off of moving day for me since it all got quite tense and stressy. We are also in the new house over 2 hours later than we could have been.

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StrawberryWater · 11/08/2025 14:19

Sounds like the previous owners to our house!

Cheeky mare was still in the house with not a thing packed when we turned up with our removal truck! She was the one who insisted on that day and time! She'd already handed the keys over.

We had to get the solicitors involved who eventually told her to get out. We ended up with a huge fine from our removal company.

Oh and to top it off. The cheeky cow left some of her bits and pieces and she didn't come back until like a week later when I threatened to throw everything in the bin. She went to get a mirror off the wall and I found her standing on my brand new white sofa in her wedge heels.

Not proud but I did shout at her at that point. I was done.

It's put me off buying another house even though I want to move!

BlotAnExpert · 11/08/2025 14:18

Didimum · 08/08/2025 21:19

In a chain, it’s meant to move from top down. The solicitors are supposed to communicate with each other from top down.

How do you think that works exactly? It's the opposite, you use the money from your purchase to fund your purchase, then your seller uses the money from you to fund their purchase, etc, etc...

MissHollysDolly · 11/08/2025 14:09

dogcatkitten · 08/08/2025 21:32

We arrived at our new house at the designated time, keys were meant to be handed over there. No one was there, the house was locked up and obviously still full of furniture. It was a weekend and our solicitor wasn't answering the phone. Eventually (hours later) our sellers turned up and started moving out their stuff, left a load for 'tomorrow' (if you don't mind, we did mind but what can you do?), which they picked up eventually. It was so stressful and such an anti-climax when you are so looking forward to getting your house.

this sounds dreadful, I would have changed the locks and turfed their stuff out.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 14:00

SomeOfTheTrouble · 11/08/2025 13:56

Obviously you can choose not to move in to your property on that day if you don’t want to, but it is legally yours and the seller has no legal right to remain in the property. You would also have no legal right to stay in the property you have sold.

Exactly this! Whilst you don’t have to move in to your property, if you’re selling you do have to move out.

SomeOfTheTrouble · 11/08/2025 13:56

Obviously you can choose not to move in to your property on that day if you don’t want to, but it is legally yours and the seller has no legal right to remain in the property. You would also have no legal right to stay in the property you have sold.

SomeOfTheTrouble · 11/08/2025 13:54

Paganpentacle · 11/08/2025 13:48

No
Exchange is when you sign contracts and agree to a sale.
Completion is when the money goes through and the sale is....complete.
Neither happens on the day of moving....

Yes, they do. Completion day is the day of moving.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 13:51

Paganpentacle · 11/08/2025 13:48

No
Exchange is when you sign contracts and agree to a sale.
Completion is when the money goes through and the sale is....complete.
Neither happens on the day of moving....

You’re so wrong!

So on completion date you own the house you’re buying….

But it’s not yours until “moving date” which doesn’t mean completion date.

Another poster not in the legal profession!

Paganpentacle · 11/08/2025 13:48

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 13:44

No it doesn’t! Completion date is moving date.

Do you mean exchange?

No
Exchange is when you sign contracts and agree to a sale.
Completion is when the money goes through and the sale is....complete.
Neither happens on the day of moving....

SomeOfTheTrouble · 11/08/2025 13:47

Paganpentacle · 11/08/2025 13:43

Completion takes place days before the moving date.

No, it doesn’t. Completion means just that… moneys have been paid, ownership is transferred to the buyer and you are free to occupy the property.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 13:44

Paganpentacle · 11/08/2025 13:43

Completion takes place days before the moving date.

No it doesn’t! Completion date is moving date.

Do you mean exchange?

Paganpentacle · 11/08/2025 13:43

Didimum · 08/08/2025 21:20

Until you’ve had your completion call, you don’t know you’ve completed. As above, it is supposed to move from top of chain down for this very reason. Solicitors’ error.

Completion takes place days before the moving date.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 13:37

WearyAuldWumman · 11/08/2025 13:22

Yes, that's right. The financial compensation comes from the person who has failed to move out in time.

I know it’s right! I said it originally and I was responding to the poster saying the whole chain was reversed! 🤦‍♀️

WearyAuldWumman · 11/08/2025 13:22

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 13:07

Ok, you were agreeing with that person. Whatever, once the I individual property has completed, the rest of the chain does what they like. If you’ve paid for, and legal ownership of the property is yours, then no financial compensation is coming from you, it’s coming from the person in the chain that has not met their legal obligation. How on earth would you get money from someone who had paid the money due for their property in the right time etc.

That is in both England and Scotland.

Yes, that's right. The financial compensation comes from the person who has failed to move out in time.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 13:07

WearyAuldWumman · 11/08/2025 12:57

I actually did not state "the whole chain is reversed". You seem to be mixing me up with someone else.

Ok, you were agreeing with that person. Whatever, once the I individual property has completed, the rest of the chain does what they like. If you’ve paid for, and legal ownership of the property is yours, then no financial compensation is coming from you, it’s coming from the person in the chain that has not met their legal obligation. How on earth would you get money from someone who had paid the money due for their property in the right time etc.

That is in both England and Scotland.

WearyAuldWumman · 11/08/2025 12:57

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 04:46

its irrelevant it’s the same process on completion day, im not sure why you’re mentioning financial penalty, you stated the “whole chain is reversed” I.e. the people at the bottom of the chain, that have completed legally, their mortgage and funds clear, who legally now own the home has to move back out because someone at the top of the chain failed t complete,

How do you stop the people at the bottom of the chain legally owning the house because they’ve completed? It’s done, they own the home and have moved in and it’s theirs. You can’t then give them a call and say “move back out” it’s legally yours but five houses up the chain it’s fallen apart. It’s too late by then.

I actually did not state "the whole chain is reversed". You seem to be mixing me up with someone else.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 11/08/2025 04:46

WearyAuldWumman · 10/08/2025 19:58

That's an English website. The OP is in Scotland. I do note, however, that the linked website mentions a financial penalty.

its irrelevant it’s the same process on completion day, im not sure why you’re mentioning financial penalty, you stated the “whole chain is reversed” I.e. the people at the bottom of the chain, that have completed legally, their mortgage and funds clear, who legally now own the home has to move back out because someone at the top of the chain failed t complete,

How do you stop the people at the bottom of the chain legally owning the house because they’ve completed? It’s done, they own the home and have moved in and it’s theirs. You can’t then give them a call and say “move back out” it’s legally yours but five houses up the chain it’s fallen apart. It’s too late by then.

Sophiehoney · 11/08/2025 01:12

T1Dmama · 10/08/2025 10:23

When I bought my first house and moved in, it looked like they had moved out weeks ago, the grass was waste height and I had to get my dad round with a strimmer and petrol mower as we hadn’t yet purchased one…. And the cooker was disgusting! I spent the moving in day scrubbing the bathroom, replaced toilet seat and cleaning the cooker. I’d be embarrassed to leave a house like that!!
when I moved a second time our solicitor was awful, I was meant to be moving and we hadn’t even exchanged! My rented place was ending and I complained about the poor communication… the people I was buying from thought I was holding it up and I thought it was them!! Anyway I was at work when I received a text saying ‘congratulations you are now the owner of x street house and you can collect your keys at midday! I called solicitors to be told we had exchanged and completed at the same time and the house was now mine!
I was at work, working till 6pm, on my own, so had to call my dad to hire a van and he and my mum just went to my rented place and threw everything into the van for me. Then came and collected me from work… it was so stressful having no warning!
Got to the the house and the couple had taken all the blinds that they had said they’d leave, so I had no curtains or anything and they’d left their skanky old cat… they popped back to collect the money we’d agreed on for blinds and other furniture and we towed on the doorstep about them taking the blinds… I told them they could come and get all the other stuff as it was mainly the blinds I’d wanted left (wasn’t bothered about the flat pack cheapo wardrobes !! Anyway they returned the next day with the blinds and collected their cat and money!
no idea what they thinking as I’m sure the blinds wouldn’t have fitted the windows they moved to

Someone who helped them move probably "helpfully" removed the blinds. They probably even told them not to, but people don't listen.

WearyAuldWumman · 10/08/2025 19:58

BlankBlankBlank14 · 10/08/2025 19:00

That's an English website. The OP is in Scotland. I do note, however, that the linked website mentions a financial penalty.

Marieb19 · 10/08/2025 19:48

Didimum · 08/08/2025 21:19

In a chain, it’s meant to move from top down. The solicitors are supposed to communicate with each other from top down.

I'm assuming you have no legal training

Allergictoironing · 10/08/2025 19:22

Blablibladirladada · 10/08/2025 18:47

Yes of course,
you need to be “ready to go” but the people didn’t vacate yet as not heard from…it isn’t they weren’t ready. Or did I miss that part?

There are 2 transactions taking place for anyone not at the bottom or the top of a chain, your sale of the old house and your purchase of the new one.

In OPs case the transaction had completed on both the house they had sold, and the house they were purchasing. From their vendor's point of view the transaction had completed for them selling their house to the OP, but they were waiting on notification that their purchase had gone through. So they HAD heard about them no longer owning their old house, just hadn't yet heard about the new one.

Allergictoironing · 10/08/2025 19:18

Blablibladirladada · 10/08/2025 18:45

No. There is a clause that your buying is dependent of a sale. On the whole chain. Either it goes through or not.

Nope, definitely not. Each and every sale in the "chain" is a separate transaction, with no legal dependency on any other.

If you've been involved in a chain with that type of clause either a) you've mis read or mis understood what it was saying, b) you're in another country or c) you were right royally screwed over by all the solicitors in the chain.

HonoriaBulstrode · 10/08/2025 19:06

you need to be “ready to go” but the people didn’t vacate yet as not heard from…it isn’t they weren’t ready.

You need to go, vacate, leave as soon as the sale has been completed because it's no longer your house. They knew the sale had been completed. They were waiting to hear if the purchase of the house they were buying had been completed, but you can't do that while sitting in a house you no longer own!

There will always be a slight time lag because the funds have to move from your purchaser to you (which is the point when your sale is completed and you leave your old house) then on to your seller (which is the point when your purchase is completed and you can access your new house).

BlankBlankBlank14 · 10/08/2025 18:52

Blablibladirladada · 10/08/2025 18:45

No. There is a clause that your buying is dependent of a sale. On the whole chain. Either it goes through or not.

No you are wrong!

Blablibladirladada · 10/08/2025 18:48

NaughtyTortieOwner00 · 09/08/2025 22:26

No once the money come though for the house being sold it no longer belongs to the prior owner and prior owner really shouldn't be there.

Though most people are okay or understanding as long as they seem to be getting moving - or nearly out the door ie shit happens and they aren't piss taking.

My Mum stuggled to understand this - she bought an empty new build and has never moved. She thought it was bad planning a school mum was going to be driving round/parked up with loaded up house for several hours - kids in school - and explaining house being sold needs to be empty when sale goes though and they have to wait for the buy of their next place to go through and in that time there's nowhere to be - Dmum couldn't grasp it.

IL esate agent neighbur said it's not uncommon - she said worst she has was a sale going though that day 3 bed house and her seller was oh DH will rent a van after work and pack up - she was like no you have to be out by midday or contract say you'll get fined- and it will take hours way longer than you think to pack a house. Woman had to ring her bloke at work get him home and drag in every one they knew and they were still really late - and in end the buyer movers were literally chucking their stuff in the street - estate agent said they were in tears on phone with her and she was well yea it's not your house now.

We ended up de-copuping last sale/buying - not our first choice and it dragged on way longer than initally planned- so didn't have same lack of access and stuff coming - but came with other problems and costs and stress.

Yeah they do need to be ready to go

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