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to feel hurt that some women who cannot conceive seem to take it out on other women who get pregnant but never the men?

433 replies

joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 17:53

I struggled with infertility for years. It was painful, isolating, and at times it felt like my body was betraying me. Along the way, I made a few close friendships with other women who were going through the same. We bonded over the grief, the tests, the waiting, the hope.

But when I finally got pregnant, something I never even believed would happen, I was overjoyed, but also mindful. I didn’t make big announcements. I tried to be sensitive. But several of those women just cut me off, almost overnight. No explanation, no "I need space", just silence. It hurt deeply.

What confuses me is that their anger or pain seemed to be directed only at me, the woman who got pregnant not at my husband. As if I did something to them personally. As if my pregnancy was a betrayal. But the men? Never held to account. No one stopped talking to my husband.

I completely understand that grief and comparison can make people pull away. I know it's not always rational. I know what it feels like to watch others get what you’re desperately hoping for. But I never imagined that when it finally happened to me, I'd lose people I’d once leaned on.

AIBU to feel like there’s something deeply unfair about how women carry so much of this emotional fallout, sometimes even punishing each other while men walk away untouched?

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MrsFrumble · 08/08/2025 23:22

How long has it been since you announced your pregnancy OP? And how many friends are behaving like this?

I didn’t want to see or talk to my SIL for a few months when I found out she was pregnant. I’d recently had a miscarriage, DH had just been diagnosed with cancer and SIL announced it in a very tactless way given the circumstances. Eventually my annoyance faded and I missed her so I got back in touch. Maybe your friends will too in future.

Greengagesnfennel · 08/08/2025 23:17

Yabvu.
i never experienced infertility personally, but I can still see that it will be different between how they feel about you and your husband. They self-identified with you (before), not now. Now you are ‘other’. That was part of your relationship. They never had much in common with your husband (he was always ‘other’ in most aspects) so that relationship has changed less.
maybe your friendship hung on the fertility self-identification and there wasn’t a deeper bond there outside of it. Could that be it? Did you connect with people over other things? Hobbies, personal history, places?

KimberleyClark · 08/08/2025 23:09

jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 21:48

Because they're friends and you should be happy for people, even if they have things you haven't, especially when you can appreciate their difficulties they've had getting to that place.

Most people in their lives have something that they've been unable to achieve.

Yes, but how many of those things are comparable to not being able to have the children you wanted? That cause genuine grief and heartbreak as opposed to disappointment?

TheTwitcher11 · 08/08/2025 22:51

jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 22:15

You do understand that as a parent you constantly have to think of other people and not just your own family. Honestly if you think like that maybe being a parent isn't the right thing for you.

Further to that - I’m not saying egg their house or verbally abuse the pregnant lady - i’m saying it’s understandable if you’d want to distance yourself to protect your own feelings? Not sure what that has to do with me being a mother 🤣

Swirlythingy2025 · 08/08/2025 22:49

joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 19:38

My husband has been over to their house to watch football or go to a sporting event. In some cases, the wife has been there too. They have chatted, been friendly and it has all been completely normal. There was no awkwardness, no distancing, no silence.

but that seems its more because the other women do it to support their husbands rather than your dh directly

TheTwitcher11 · 08/08/2025 22:48

jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 22:15

You do understand that as a parent you constantly have to think of other people and not just your own family. Honestly if you think like that maybe being a parent isn't the right thing for you.

But they aren’t parents, are they? That’s the whole point or are you reading the same thread?

Hedgehogbrown · 08/08/2025 22:40

People are being contrary here for the sake of it. Yes it's unreasonable and not very nice to cut a friend off entirely for getting pregnant. They need therapy to sort it out or they will end up with no friends.

verycloakanddaggers · 08/08/2025 22:36

joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 20:51

I get where you’re coming from, but saying I don’t know their pain just because my story ended differently isn’t fair.

I’ve been through infertility too. The negative tests, the failed cycles, the constant waiting and hoping. I lived all of that. Just because I eventually had a baby doesn’t mean I forgot what that pain feels like. It stays with you.
Of course our situations are different now. I’m not pretending they’re the same.

But it doesn’t mean I suddenly stopped understanding. It also doesn’t mean I can’t feel hurt when people I stood by for years cut me off without a word.

Different endings don’t erase shared experiences.

Nothing has been erased, but your paths diverged very widely.

Grieve it, but also understand why they did it.

You don't sound like you care for them really, just angry.

Ineedtoseetobelieve32 · 08/08/2025 22:21

I can’t follow your indignation at all. Did your husband make friends with these women as well and they continued to stay his friend and not yours? It doesn’t seem that that’s what you’re saying. You also don’t seem to be saying that your husband also made friends based on your shared infertility troubles and then those friends stuck around after you fell pregnant / had your child whereas the ones you made didn’t. When you say men don’t get punished in the way you have, you don’t seem to be applying the same set of circumstances, even ignoring the fact that you are the one that gets pregnant.

WellIquitelikesprouts · 08/08/2025 22:21

It’s not surprising that seeing another woman get pregnant and grow her baby is far more painful than knowing a man will soon be a dad.

joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 22:19

TartanTwit · 08/08/2025 22:03

Infertility can trigger some overwhelming feelings of jealousy, I know from experience. We aren't jealous of a bloke who can't be a dad we are jealous of the woman who got the positive test. It isn't pretty but infertility isn't either. You have to let those people have their space.

They already have their space. I’m not chasing them or trying to force contact.

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jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 22:15

TheTwitcher11 · 08/08/2025 21:56

Disagree - people shouldn’t have to torture themselves and they have every right to disengage if that in turn, safeguards their mental health.

You do understand that as a parent you constantly have to think of other people and not just your own family. Honestly if you think like that maybe being a parent isn't the right thing for you.

derby18 · 08/08/2025 22:03

You are not being unreasonable OP and I can see why you're hurt by your friends' treatment of you. And don't think you're completely devoid of compassion like others make out.

I am in a similar position at the moment, having just had a baby and being on the receiving end of some unkind and wilfully spiteful (by their own admission - they have acknowledged that they literally knew they were doing it) behaviour from relatives who are undergoing IVF for their second child. If I treated them the way they treated me a few days after the birth of their first child (their first successful IVF transfer) they would be both heartbroken and livid, yet I'm not allowed to feel hurt by it because my baby had the gall to come first.

Infertility is absolutely heartbreaking and painful beyond belief but I don't think that should give people a free pass to not treat other people with the same kindness, respect and empathy they would hope to receive themselves should the shoe be on the other foot.

TartanTwit · 08/08/2025 22:03

Infertility can trigger some overwhelming feelings of jealousy, I know from experience. We aren't jealous of a bloke who can't be a dad we are jealous of the woman who got the positive test. It isn't pretty but infertility isn't either. You have to let those people have their space.

phoenixrosehere · 08/08/2025 21:59

I get what you’re saying OP.

It is cruel for them to talk to your DH and not you, be around your DH and baby, but not you.

I think you have a DH problem.

How can he remain friends with people who have chosen to distance themselves from his wife after she had a baby, especially the ones who were friends with you before the infertility struggles?

TheTwitcher11 · 08/08/2025 21:56

jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 21:48

Because they're friends and you should be happy for people, even if they have things you haven't, especially when you can appreciate their difficulties they've had getting to that place.

Most people in their lives have something that they've been unable to achieve.

Disagree - people shouldn’t have to torture themselves and they have every right to disengage if that in turn, safeguards their mental health.

joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 21:54

Venalopolos · 08/08/2025 21:44

Presumably these women wanted to be pregnant and a mum? Your DH is neither of these things, and so doesn’t symbolise the thing they want and can’t have.

If they desperately wanted to be a Dad then they might have cut off your DH instead.

Yes of course they wanted to be pregnant and become mums. I get that. But the end goal was always having a baby and becoming a parent, not just being pregnant. My husband is becoming a parent too. Just because he is not carrying the baby does not mean he is not part of the thing they are grieving.

If it was really just about seeing someone get what they want and cannot have, then both of us would be reminders. But I am the one who got cut off, while he is still getting invited out, still chatting with them like nothing has changed. That is not just about pregnancy. It is about how people treat women differently.

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jetlag92 · 08/08/2025 21:48

Adultautismdiagnosis · 08/08/2025 18:29

If you can't see it from their side of the coin then you were never a good friend to them in the first place.

Because they're friends and you should be happy for people, even if they have things you haven't, especially when you can appreciate their difficulties they've had getting to that place.

Most people in their lives have something that they've been unable to achieve.

Venalopolos · 08/08/2025 21:44

Presumably these women wanted to be pregnant and a mum? Your DH is neither of these things, and so doesn’t symbolise the thing they want and can’t have.

If they desperately wanted to be a Dad then they might have cut off your DH instead.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 08/08/2025 21:40

I don't think it is intentional. I think the reaction comes from a place of deep pain.

hmmimnotsurewhy · 08/08/2025 21:38

I think it’s quite a stretch trying to blame a man here. He didn’t carry the baby, and not a visual reminder. A woman is.

TuMadreEsLoca · 08/08/2025 21:34

Wiltingasparagusfern · 08/08/2025 20:52

Being in pain - even very deep pain - is not an excuse for being cruel to a friend, and it is cruel to cut someone off without an explanation, and it’s cruel that they still talk to your husband.

I agree with this, to be honest.

Results9 · 08/08/2025 21:34

I’m sort of with you, OP. Except in my case, I fell pregnant very quickly. My sister had been through 3 rounds of IVF and it was a really difficult time. My BIL cut me off completely, stopped speaking to me, blocked me on social media but kept talking to DH.

They too got their baby, but our relationship never recovered. Now we’re practically two strangers, when we had a closer sibling relationship than my actual brother before hand.

I just accept that people deal with grief differently, but it’s pretty heartbreaking sometimes.

Adultautismdiagnosis · 08/08/2025 21:23

DontbesorrybeGiles · 08/08/2025 21:22

The OP is either unable/unwilling to see things from other people’s points of view, or is an AI bot. Every post is just going round and round in circles.

This

DontbesorrybeGiles · 08/08/2025 21:22

The OP is either unable/unwilling to see things from other people’s points of view, or is an AI bot. Every post is just going round and round in circles.