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to feel hurt that some women who cannot conceive seem to take it out on other women who get pregnant but never the men?

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joyjoyw · 08/08/2025 17:53

I struggled with infertility for years. It was painful, isolating, and at times it felt like my body was betraying me. Along the way, I made a few close friendships with other women who were going through the same. We bonded over the grief, the tests, the waiting, the hope.

But when I finally got pregnant, something I never even believed would happen, I was overjoyed, but also mindful. I didn’t make big announcements. I tried to be sensitive. But several of those women just cut me off, almost overnight. No explanation, no "I need space", just silence. It hurt deeply.

What confuses me is that their anger or pain seemed to be directed only at me, the woman who got pregnant not at my husband. As if I did something to them personally. As if my pregnancy was a betrayal. But the men? Never held to account. No one stopped talking to my husband.

I completely understand that grief and comparison can make people pull away. I know it's not always rational. I know what it feels like to watch others get what you’re desperately hoping for. But I never imagined that when it finally happened to me, I'd lose people I’d once leaned on.

AIBU to feel like there’s something deeply unfair about how women carry so much of this emotional fallout, sometimes even punishing each other while men walk away untouched?

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Gottogetoutofthisplace · 13/08/2025 08:17

Bloody hell OP, I’ve just gone to read your updates and there are 5 pages of them - in the nicest possible way, you need to forget about these women and get on with enjoying your baby!
For whatever reason, these so called friends have treated you very badly and have cut you out. For your own mental health, please find a way to make peace with this and move on! You have an exciting new life waiting for you, you’ll make lots of new friends throughout the different stages of your baby’s life.
Women who have treated you in this way are no longer your friends I’m afraid, whatever their ‘reasons’. My guess is that in their bitterness they actively want you to feel guilty and uncomfortable for being pregnant (not that they would ever admit that) so please don’t give them what they want.
I do feel your husband could be more supportive - a lot of your pain comes from the fact he is still doing ‘normal’ things with this group. Why is he still passing the time of day with these women who have treated you badly? Time to have a frank conversation with him I think. He doesn’t have to stop seeing his male friends, but he needs to accept the dynamic has changed and he shouldn’t be blithely chatting to these women like nothing has happened.
But focus on your baby, find a way to stop this eating you up - don’t let other peoples bad behaviour define and cloud over what should be the happiest time of your life ♥️

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 11:48

I would possibly message the lady who is now pregnant back.
simply say that you’re very pleased to hear she’s pregnant and you hope she has a good pregnancy and birth. And leave it there. If she responds you can go from her response and decide what to do…..
if she messages back and says the group are ghosting her etc you can say ‘yes it’s horrible isn’t it!… I remember how upset I was when you ALL did it to me!! But if she responds and tells you about it and says OMG I can’t believe I did it to you and looking back I feel so mortified that I was that nasty, will you ever forgive me etc… well then you can maybe offer to meet for a coffee erasure her she’ll meet new friends - maybe suggest baby and mum groups etc to her and then leave and decide whether you want to leave the friendship there or meet up occasionally ….

Your mutual friends that told you she’s distraught …. Did they ever say to her that she was being unreasonable for ghosting you? Surely she can see that what’s happening to her is exactly how she treated you!!

id imagine what she’s now going through is taking back up your pain @joyjoyw - so I would suggest either doing what I suggested above because I think maybe it will help you process your pain and maybe get some answers….. but you could also help her…. Ask her why she ghosted you… then when she tells you her reasons point out to her that the reasons she ghosted you are likely the reasons she’s being ghosted now by the others…. Maybe you’ll both benefit from a catch up…. Even if afterwards you decide you’d rather not ever speak to her again.

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 11:27

dairydebris · 12/08/2025 10:02

No one said anything about actively wanting other women to be infertile, apart from you. Extending grace and understanding to others who are in great pain would be the better course of action here, rather than accusing them of being bitter and twisted.
In any case I dont believe the OP is genuine.

Well I went through hell and back to have a baby.. but I think cutting someone off the minute they get pregnant is extremely
mean … that kind of meanness is lead by jealousy… and jealousy is about being bitter that someone else has something you want…. So that is them being jealous/bitter etc that you are pregnant and they’re not… (being pregnant is the opposite of infertile) so yes… my comment stands… why would you want others to remain in the ‘infertility’ bracket just because you STC?… it’s horrible and ‘pain’ doesn’t excuse this level of nastiness from the group….
I feel sorry for the lady who he is the latest victim of the group bullying her for getting pregnant (ostracising her is bullying!) but she also did the same to OP….. it’s awful that women behave this way as use their grief an excuse to be horrible!…
and yes having been through infertility and still being able to see how horrible these women are to women who are lucky enough to conceive after years of struggling to… I do believe that @joyjoyw is genuine.

it’s clear that she coped with their behaviour towards her and she just got on with it…. It’s also clear that the news that one of her ex friends now being pregnant and also being ostracised has brought all those feelings of how they treated her back up… op is clearly also in pain, struggling to understand how these women she supported can just ghost her for non other reason than getting what they all want…. But also that one of those women who frankly treated OP like crap now has the ordacity to expect OP’s friendship and support again because she’s now being treated the exact same way she treated OP!

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 11:05

joyjoyw · 10/08/2025 20:40

Interesting how you keep bypassing when others say worse than me but you keep focusing on what I said or apparently supported.

Ignore these Mumsnetters @joyjoyw !

They seem obsessed with the pain your ex friends are going through - dismissing their nastiness as ‘pain’ but are totalling disregarding your pain!!….. by their own standards the pain you’ve endured gives you a free pass to be ‘snipey’

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 10:27

joyjoyw · 09/08/2025 20:19

I followed up a few times then gave up when it was clear they were ghosting me.

Yes I did mention that they might be finding it difficult and I asked after them regarding certain personal things they had told me. No response whatsoever so I left it.

One has come back saying she is now pregnant. That is lovely news for her.

Awful of them!
infertility is awful but Christ would it have killed them to send a text saying ‘congratulations @joyjoyw, I’m so thrilled it all came good for you… good luck with the pregnancy’ x

KimberleyClark · 12/08/2025 10:13

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 10:01

Have you asked her for an explanation of why they cut you off? Has she also been cut loose from the group now?
I find it so odd…. When trying my sister had 2 children in that time, my brother 1 (although apparently it’s only his wife that had 1)…. Lol
loads of friends had at least 1 child in those 11 years!!…. Some had 4!!…. I pretty much resided myself to the fact that I’d always be the aunt / god parent / babysitter…. Etc
How can someone who wants a baby fall out with everyone who has one??…. I wanted a baby so used to love being round my friends babies!….

I really do think you were bonded with this group purely by grief… they were not friends, just a group of people sharing a common grief… interesting to know what the other ladies experience has been

I had two friends who had 4 each in the time I was ttc my first. It was so hard - just endless pregnancy/birth announcements. We are now down to exchanging Christmas cards only. And now every year there is a new grandchild arrived or on the way. Still that’s life. It’s lovely for them. And I have my travels all over the world to tell them about.

dairydebris · 12/08/2025 10:02

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 09:43

I tried for 11 years….. 4 rounds of egg recovery and hundreds of internal scans and injections….
never, not once did I cut friends off when they got pregnant…
It is bitter/twisted/ jealous or whatever you want to call it…. To not be happy for others…
I don’t get it at all….. infertility is horrible and frankly I wouldn’t wish it on anyone - especially not a friend!…. Sorry but you have to be bitter to want everyone else to be infertile just to make you feel better.

No one said anything about actively wanting other women to be infertile, apart from you. Extending grace and understanding to others who are in great pain would be the better course of action here, rather than accusing them of being bitter and twisted.
In any case I dont believe the OP is genuine.

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 10:01

joyjoyw · 09/08/2025 17:11

Interestingly one has come back now she is pregnant. I will just leave her be.

Have you asked her for an explanation of why they cut you off? Has she also been cut loose from the group now?
I find it so odd…. When trying my sister had 2 children in that time, my brother 1 (although apparently it’s only his wife that had 1)…. Lol
loads of friends had at least 1 child in those 11 years!!…. Some had 4!!…. I pretty much resided myself to the fact that I’d always be the aunt / god parent / babysitter…. Etc
How can someone who wants a baby fall out with everyone who has one??…. I wanted a baby so used to love being round my friends babies!….

I really do think you were bonded with this group purely by grief… they were not friends, just a group of people sharing a common grief… interesting to know what the other ladies experience has been

T1Dmama · 12/08/2025 09:43

dairydebris · 09/08/2025 16:16

I think you're showing up how you really feel by saying those who can't bear to interact with you because you're pregnant and they are not are 'bitter and twisted'. Quite a surprising lack of empathy and grace towards those suffering great pain because of infertility.

I tried for 11 years….. 4 rounds of egg recovery and hundreds of internal scans and injections….
never, not once did I cut friends off when they got pregnant…
It is bitter/twisted/ jealous or whatever you want to call it…. To not be happy for others…
I don’t get it at all….. infertility is horrible and frankly I wouldn’t wish it on anyone - especially not a friend!…. Sorry but you have to be bitter to want everyone else to be infertile just to make you feel better.

Blessthismess2 · 11/08/2025 14:22

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 13:58

Looks like MNHQ wanted to get your post away from everybody @thisistoofunny 😂

You never answered my earlier question.

Has this thread made you reflect at all?

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 13:58

Looks like MNHQ wanted to get your post away from everybody @thisistoofunny 😂

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TuMadreEsLoca · 11/08/2025 12:00

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 11:50

What constitutes a friendship? We went to each others homes, dinners, weekends away and met each other's families. We didn't just sit and talk about infertility all the time

I dunno maybe not ditching you the minute you are no longer bound by said common experience?

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 11:50

TuMadreEsLoca · 11/08/2025 10:30

They just werent your friends in the first place. They are a group of people who are bonded by a common experience. They are not a friendship group. This much is clear.

What constitutes a friendship? We went to each others homes, dinners, weekends away and met each other's families. We didn't just sit and talk about infertility all the time

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namechangeGOT · 11/08/2025 11:36

MissHollysDolly · 11/08/2025 09:34

I don’t think that’s a realistic expectation for people who have families. People who can’t have children cannot reasonably expect those who do to carry on like nothing happened to spare their feelings?

Exactly! That’s my point! When I eventually had my child I couldn’t continue to be the friend that I was before. I couldn’t continue to provide the same support as I had before. Either the still childless friend has to put their feelings to one side or the new mum has to put their responsibilities to one side. It’s not the same friendship and it never would have been. Neither is in the wrong.

TuMadreEsLoca · 11/08/2025 10:30

They just werent your friends in the first place. They are a group of people who are bonded by a common experience. They are not a friendship group. This much is clear.

Blessthismess2 · 11/08/2025 10:18

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 09:32

Thank you.

People seem rather confused. Lots of inaccurate comments saying they are not surprised they distanced themselves from me. They cut me off due to my pregnancy. They have just done the same to someone else who is now distraught because she has lost all her friends.

It appears to be the case that women struggling to conceive get some sort of special pass regarding not so pleasant behaviour.

It appears to be the case that women struggling to conceive get some sort of special pass regarding not so pleasant behaviour.

🤯

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 10:13

Great to see MNHQ deleting nasty posts!

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JHound · 11/08/2025 09:55

This thread is the evidence of you failing to move on.

Discussing something does not mean I have failed to move on. You don't know me so it is silly to make assumptions.

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JHound · 11/08/2025 09:56

MissHollysDolly · 11/08/2025 09:34

I don’t think that’s a realistic expectation for people who have families. People who can’t have children cannot reasonably expect those who do to carry on like nothing happened to spare their feelings?

I don’t think they do expect her to carry on like nothing happened. It’s why they have cut contact.

JHound · 11/08/2025 09:55

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 07:35

You don't know me so can't judge.

This thread is the evidence of you failing to move on.

MissHollysDolly · 11/08/2025 09:34

namechangeGOT · 10/08/2025 21:01

OP, let’s say that the couples who you were friends with continued on with nights out, weekends away, allll the things you did before you got pregnant would you have gone on them? Left baby at home to go away for weekends away with them, had nights out despite perhaps not being ready, been happy to leave baby talk at home every time you went out with them or met up for a coffee? Would that have been okay? Or would you have wanted to speak about baby? Refused invites for weekends and nights out because of ‘baby’? If so, then you were never going to be able to stay friends with women who wanted the very thing you had - you wouldn’t be the same person. I have been in your position. I fully expected to be dropped from our sad little group of barren friends - 6 cycles of IVF and many miscarriages to get my son but I got him and they didn’t. It’s just disingenuous to pretend your husband is walking the same path as you, he isn’t. Yes, he’s gonna be a dad. Is he going to get morning sickness, stretch marks, is he going to feel baby kicking inside him before anyone else can? Will he feel that excitement when his belly begins to pop and things start to feel real? Will he give birth, spend that first night together in hospital just staring at each other? Will he breastfeed? His true involvement in it isn’t even close and you know it.

I don’t think that’s a realistic expectation for people who have families. People who can’t have children cannot reasonably expect those who do to carry on like nothing happened to spare their feelings?

joyjoyw · 11/08/2025 09:32

Fimofriend · 11/08/2025 09:25

But they didn't distance themselves from OOP. They completely cut her off and that is not only rude, it is mean

Thank you.

People seem rather confused. Lots of inaccurate comments saying they are not surprised they distanced themselves from me. They cut me off due to my pregnancy. They have just done the same to someone else who is now distraught because she has lost all her friends.

It appears to be the case that women struggling to conceive get some sort of special pass regarding not so pleasant behaviour.

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Fimofriend · 11/08/2025 09:25

Adultautismdiagnosis · 09/08/2025 09:29

It's not being bitchy to distance yourself when you're in extreme pain. Main character syndrome has absolutely nothing to do with it.

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But they didn't distance themselves from OOP. They completely cut her off and that is not only rude, it is mean

SophieJo · 11/08/2025 08:04

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I just thought the same. Her ex friends must count themselves very lucky.

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