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Racist vigilantes on local FB page

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FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 15:42

I live in a small town with a military history. As such, we have had quite a few Afghan refugees settled here.

A few days ago, a woman posted to say that an Afghan refugee had been in the park and walking around watching her toddler. She turned away to feed her other child, and when she turned back, he was holding her toddler and walking off. She asked her sister who was with her to go and get the toddler back. Then, apparently, he said no to the sister several times and said he was taking the toddler home with him. Eventually, the toddler was returned.

Cue extensive outrage all over the Facebook page. Comments calling for riots and violence, comments locating the man involved, comments getting a few men together for a game of "human football"... Obviously people asked why she hadn't called the police and she said she had but they weren't interested.

Anyway, then there are posts of the man in different locations and people threatening to go after him.

Then, it turns out, the woman has partly lied and partly told half-truths about the whole things. Firstly, not a local Afghan refugee at all. Not local, on holiday. Not Afghan, police confirmed he's not Afghan but didn't say what he is. Not a refugee, here on holiday (we live in a touristy place). Police also confirmed it wasn't reported to them until the evening - and also that the report was made by a man. So, she didn't report to the police - just to Facebook.

It also turns out, the man was in the park with his own children (she made it sound like he was there alone) and that the toddler approached him, while the mum wasn't paying any attention, and asked to be picked up. And, of course, very strange that if a man were walking off with your toddler, you'd just ask him nicely to put them down...

Frankly, I feel really uncomfortable by this. This woman has blatantly lied and misled people to try and rile up a riot. I'm also scared by how many people were commenting incredibly racist things and calling for violence against (what turned out to be) an entirely innocent man. I'm really shocked, and I like where I live less now.

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FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 22:00

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:58

Whataboutery is a classic lazy deflection method.

It's what you're doing though
Somebody says something and you immediately jump to "what about this?"
Kind of never mind that, look over there!
Biscuit

Notonthestairs · 08/08/2025 21:59

Yes it is.
The police statement says no crimes were identified.

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:58

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 21:53

Exactly. Whataboutery at it's finest.

Whataboutery is a classic lazy deflection method.

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:57

Muffsies · 08/08/2025 21:52

Every time someone challenges your nonsense you change the subject.

Yes, everyone is aware of the rise in antisemitism, and the general rise in racism and general xenophobia and intolerance on sm and in the public, your point being?

The point being, if the OP and all the others are going to be so passionate about racism, maybe try exerting that same energy to all forms of racism. I don't see the same up in arms posts when a Jewish poster, posts about being discriminated against.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 21:53

Muffsies · 08/08/2025 21:52

Every time someone challenges your nonsense you change the subject.

Yes, everyone is aware of the rise in antisemitism, and the general rise in racism and general xenophobia and intolerance on sm and in the public, your point being?

Exactly. Whataboutery at it's finest.

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:53

whatsoccuring55 · 08/08/2025 21:52

I did not use his name at any point you did . I also did not say anything rude or unpleasant and everything I said was true

Obviously whoever reported you (it wasn't me) and the mods disagree. But ok.

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whatsoccuring55 · 08/08/2025 21:52

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:51

I only mentioned it after another poster said where it was and used his name. I think their post might have subsequently been removed because it was pretty rude/unpleasant/untrue.

It's out there now, it's not the end of the world. It was a risk and is why I NC'd.

I did not use his name at any point you did . I also did not say anything rude or unpleasant and everything I said was true

Muffsies · 08/08/2025 21:52

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Every time someone challenges your nonsense you change the subject.

Yes, everyone is aware of the rise in antisemitism, and the general rise in racism and general xenophobia and intolerance on sm and in the public, your point being?

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:52

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FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:52

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Except I haven't exaggerated or lied. At all. About anything.

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FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:51

2dogsandabudgie · 08/08/2025 21:48

In that case you shouldn't have mentioned the councillor's name. You made it easy to google and link his name to this incident. Maybe you should ask for this thread to be deleted if you don't want the town to be known.

I only mentioned it after another poster said where it was and used his name. I think their post might have subsequently been removed because it was pretty rude/unpleasant/untrue.

It's out there now, it's not the end of the world. It was a risk and is why I NC'd.

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Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:49

2dogsandabudgie · 08/08/2025 21:48

In that case you shouldn't have mentioned the councillor's name. You made it easy to google and link his name to this incident. Maybe you should ask for this thread to be deleted if you don't want the town to be known.

I doubt they want the thread deleted.

2dogsandabudgie · 08/08/2025 21:48

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:41

I haven't got any information wrong. I wasn't intending for it to be announced which small town FB group I'm referring to.

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In that case you shouldn't have mentioned the councillor's name. You made it easy to google and link his name to this incident. Maybe you should ask for this thread to be deleted if you don't want the town to be known.

Notonthestairs · 08/08/2025 21:48

Someone dying isn’t the baseline.

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:48

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FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 21:46

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:46

Who was in danger of dying?

Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:46

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 21:39

This time.

Who was in danger of dying?

pointythings · 08/08/2025 21:42

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:36

Oh well, nobody died. There's a lot more going on in the world.

Until the day a mob gets together and kills someone for being a little bit brown and foreign looking in the wrong place. It's going to happen. Minimising and pretending people worried about the phenomenon of online incitement of hatred are lying contributes to bringing that day closer.

FromanEmpire · 08/08/2025 21:41

2dogsandabudgie · 08/08/2025 21:41

Well yes quite but the OP seems to have got information wrong in her opening post, maybe she should have posted a link to what the councillor said.

I haven't got any information wrong. I wasn't intending for it to be announced which small town FB group I'm referring to.

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2dogsandabudgie · 08/08/2025 21:41

pointythings · 08/08/2025 21:28

Reporting is one thing. Focusing on nationality and ethnicity is quite another, and we all know what that thing is.

Well yes quite but the OP seems to have got information wrong in her opening post, maybe she should have posted a link to what the councillor said.

PandoraSocks · 08/08/2025 21:39

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 21:39

This time.

Exactly.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 21:39

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:36

Oh well, nobody died. There's a lot more going on in the world.

This time.

SeriousFaffing · 08/08/2025 21:38

SloppyThePoodle · 08/08/2025 16:15

Facebook is the absolute worst, I honestly think it needs to be deleted. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but if it came out that the Russians were using FB to destabilise western democracy I wouldn't be surprised!! (I'll get my tinfoil hat)

@SloppyThePoodle I’m with you on that, genuinely. It feels like when everyone thought that people thinking that Facebook was listening to them and then advertising what they were talking about should wear a tinfoil hat.

I have family members who have been radicalised by Facebook. They didn’t use it, but now are foaming at the mouth over Muslim people and every conversation reverts back to this one topic.

I’m genuinely worried about where things leading to.

Dangermoo · 08/08/2025 21:36

Oh well, nobody died. There's a lot more going on in the world.