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To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

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malificent7 · 08/08/2025 12:47

I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

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Somerford · 10/08/2025 22:42

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 22:30

He didn't mention integration

What do you think he meant when he said that our open borders experiment had caused incalculable damage? And when he said we'd become an island of strangers? What do you think he meant?

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 22:30

Somerford · 10/08/2025 22:20

Our current Prime Minister:

He didn't mention integration

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 22:27

Somerford · 10/08/2025 22:07

You didn't disagree that there are lots of immigrants who haven’t integrated and whose impact on the country is profoundly negative. Some progress I suppose.

I see dehumanising large swathes of human beings and talking about them as though they're trash as highly regressive.

Somerford · 10/08/2025 22:20

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 22:12

How is that measured? Are there official figures you are basing this on?

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TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 22:12

Somerford · 10/08/2025 22:07

You didn't disagree that there are lots of immigrants who haven’t integrated and whose impact on the country is profoundly negative. Some progress I suppose.

How is that measured? Are there official figures you are basing this on?

Somerford · 10/08/2025 22:07

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 21:54

But there are also lots who haven't integrated at all and whose impact on the country is profoundly negative, they should leave.

They're not going to leave and I have no idea how you're going to make them. Yet more inflammatory and empty rhetoric.

You didn't disagree that there are lots of immigrants who haven’t integrated and whose impact on the country is profoundly negative. Some progress I suppose.

TheAmusedQuail · 10/08/2025 22:06

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 12:24

So equally you’re not a sexist, and won’t make sweeping judgements about ‘men’?

Do you mean such as 'data from the Office for National Statistics indicates that 98% of adults prosecuted for sexual offenses in England and Wales are male.'?

Would you prefer we talked in vague opinions and feelings about 'not all men'?

Theunamedcat · 10/08/2025 22:02

Your making a nuanced argument into a black and white one it won't work

When judges go easy on rapists from other countries because they allegedly "dont understand" that rape is illegal then it's an issue when we give asylum to people we KNOW are criminals that's a problem (remember the guy who took a plane hostage on the runway and a few weeks later was given a job working at the airport?)

Our response to criminals is an issue we are being ridiculous about it all and it needs to be resolved we cannot give people second and third chances because they dont understand civilised behaviour (i dont believe rapists are civilised to be clear i dont care what colour they are)

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 21:54

Somerford · 10/08/2025 21:29

Nah, its absolutely ludicrous to sit there like he did, trying to smear anyone who protested against his policies but if you liked it then fair enough.

Going back to where the smearing began earlier in this thread, its not at all controversial to say that some of the migrants who have arrived in the past 25 years ought not to be here. Kier Starmer himself said that our open borders experiment had done incalculable damage (or words to that effect). Reducing immigration in the future doesn’t fix that, that only slows the rate of future damage. There are lots of immigrants who have integrated and contribute well to our country, I think very few people have any grievances with them. But there are also lots who haven't integrated at all and whose impact on the country is profoundly negative, they should leave.

But there are also lots who haven't integrated at all and whose impact on the country is profoundly negative, they should leave.

They're not going to leave and I have no idea how you're going to make them. Yet more inflammatory and empty rhetoric.

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 21:36

Don't hang out with racists or repeat racist rhetoric if you don't want to be associated with them.

Somerford · 10/08/2025 21:29

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 19:57

He was right to say it then, some protesters indeed had climbed into bed with nazis.

Same with some of the recent hotel protest where people walked alongside racists.

Nah, its absolutely ludicrous to sit there like he did, trying to smear anyone who protested against his policies but if you liked it then fair enough.

Going back to where the smearing began earlier in this thread, its not at all controversial to say that some of the migrants who have arrived in the past 25 years ought not to be here. Kier Starmer himself said that our open borders experiment had done incalculable damage (or words to that effect). Reducing immigration in the future doesn’t fix that, that only slows the rate of future damage. There are lots of immigrants who have integrated and contribute well to our country, I think very few people have any grievances with them. But there are also lots who haven't integrated at all and whose impact on the country is profoundly negative, they should leave.

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2025 20:57

There were no Nazi salutes at those.

Dangermoo · 10/08/2025 20:30

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 19:57

He was right to say it then, some protesters indeed had climbed into bed with nazis.

Same with some of the recent hotel protest where people walked alongside racists.

Bit like the 'free Palestine' protests, then.

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 19:57

Somerford · 10/08/2025 19:53

I'd call them Nazis. But I wouldn't use their presence to discredit and smear the ordinary people who were there to protest against the policy.

He was right to say it then, some protesters indeed had climbed into bed with nazis.

Same with some of the recent hotel protest where people walked alongside racists.

BIossomtoes · 10/08/2025 19:55

Somerford · 10/08/2025 19:53

I'd call them Nazis. But I wouldn't use their presence to discredit and smear the ordinary people who were there to protest against the policy.

Decent ordinary people wouldn’t go within a mile of that protest.

Somerford · 10/08/2025 19:53

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 19:51

What would you call people displaying Nazi symbols at those protests?

I'd call them Nazis. But I wouldn't use their presence to discredit and smear the ordinary people who were there to protest against the policy.

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 19:51

Somerford · 10/08/2025 19:33

Reminded me of Sadiq Khan saying that ULEZ protesters had climbed into bed with Nazis. Its desperate stuff, let them crack on.

What would you call people displaying Nazi symbols at those protests?

Somerford · 10/08/2025 19:33

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 19:14

The old Own Jones scare tactic ‘these are your allies!’

Reminded me of Sadiq Khan saying that ULEZ protesters had climbed into bed with Nazis. Its desperate stuff, let them crack on.

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 19:23

PandoraSocks · 10/08/2025 19:18

Even if that is accurate, it doesn't mean the more than half if us who aren't racist bigots shouldn't fight against such views.

History has taught us where mute acceptance of hatred and bigotry can lead.

Many times.

Well you can carry on showing your ‘non racist bigotry’ by refusing to do anything while unvetted men pour in from high risk countries then. It’s moral cowardice to do this knowing it won’t be you, or your generation, paying the price. What has happened to women’s rights in every other Islamic-majority country? You won’t answer, but I will keep asking.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 10/08/2025 19:21

PandoraSocks · 10/08/2025 19:18

Even if that is accurate, it doesn't mean the more than half if us who aren't racist bigots shouldn't fight against such views.

History has taught us where mute acceptance of hatred and bigotry can lead.

Many times.

I think the posters are confused. The poll was about deportation, not remigration. Although such a light hearted affiliation with white supremists says a lot.

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 19:21

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TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 19:20

PandoraSocks · 10/08/2025 19:18

Even if that is accurate, it doesn't mean the more than half if us who aren't racist bigots shouldn't fight against such views.

History has taught us where mute acceptance of hatred and bigotry can lead.

Many times.

I think people who are happy to align themselves with the far right aren't too concerned about history

PandoraSocks · 10/08/2025 19:18

Somerford · 10/08/2025 18:47

Well according to YouGov, nearly half of Brits support remigration. So Rupert Lowe, Tommy Robinson and half the country. If we're all far right, so be it.

Even if that is accurate, it doesn't mean the more than half if us who aren't racist bigots shouldn't fight against such views.

History has taught us where mute acceptance of hatred and bigotry can lead.

Many times.

JamesMacGill · 10/08/2025 19:14

Somerford · 10/08/2025 19:11

Thanks very much, best of luck to you as well

The old Own Jones scare tactic ‘these are your allies!’

Somerford · 10/08/2025 19:11

TopPocketFind · 10/08/2025 19:09

The German far right AfD supports it as well. If that is the company you like to be in, good luck

Remigration is a far-right European concept of ethnic cleansing via the mass deportation or promoted voluntary return of non-white immigrants and their descendants, sometimes including those born in Europe, to their place of racial ancestry. It is popular especially within the Identitarian movement.

Thanks very much, best of luck to you as well