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To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

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malificent7 · 08/08/2025 12:47

I am not excusing grooming, paedophile sex rings and unmonitored immigration at all but I hate all these protests.
I know that my white male ex teacher is a sex offender. Not to mention the Epstein scandal.
Aibu to think that ALL men are a danger to women...not just men of different ethnicities/ religions etc?

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JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:55

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 08/08/2025 18:54

Technically, not the immigrants/refugees because they have , you know… left. 😬

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And the ones who will leave next week? Next year? In 5 years?

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:55

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:50

I've already answered your question which is completely unrelated to my post.

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No you haven’t, you gave a politicians answer.

WhenYouSayNothingAtAll · 08/08/2025 18:54

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:49

Are men from deeply misogynistic countries more likely to be misogynistic? If not, who is oppressing these women?

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Technically, not the immigrants/refugees because they have , you know… left. 😬

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:50

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:49

Are men from deeply misogynistic countries more likely to be misogynistic? If not, who is oppressing these women?

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I've already answered your question which is completely unrelated to my post.

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:50

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JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:49

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:48

Of course it's related to what we're discussing. The men who took to the streets to 'protect women', the men in balaclavas trying to get into hotels and arranging protests aren't acting in good faith. Many of them are abusers of women and inciting violence.

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Are men from deeply misogynistic countries more likely to be misogynistic? If not, who is oppressing these women?

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:49

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:47

Do you think men from deeply misogynistic countries are more likely to be misogynistic?

Just answer.

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I think misogynists hate women irrespective of where they come from.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:48

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:44

Literally nobody is here to say the rioters are stand up British men. Nobody. This statistic will not surprise anyone and doesn’t change what we are discussing.

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Of course it's related to what we're discussing. The men who took to the streets to 'protect women', the men in balaclavas trying to get into hotels and arranging protests aren't acting in good faith. Many of them are abusers of women and inciting violence.

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:47

CurlewKate · 08/08/2025 18:46

You’re more likely to be standing next to a sex offender at an anti migrant hotel protest than actually in the hotel….

So you have reliable stats for the migrants do you?

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:47

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:45

No, it's because you can't engage with the argument so you're making things up. As usual you're trying to derail the thread.

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Do you think men from deeply misogynistic countries are more likely to be misogynistic?

Just answer.

CurlewKate · 08/08/2025 18:46

You’re more likely to be standing next to a sex offender at an anti migrant hotel protest than actually in the hotel….

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:45

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:43

That’s the logical extension of your ‘there’s no problems with individual cultures, it’s just men per se…’ fallacy.

All you’ve got is relentless side stepping, squirming and avoidance. I’m mortified for you.

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No, it's because you can't engage with the argument so you're making things up. As usual you're trying to derail the thread.

Mellowisp · 08/08/2025 18:45

We have enough violent men, why add more? They're no use, just dangerous and often come from countries that respect dogs more than they respect women.

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:44

TooBigForMyBoots · 08/08/2025 18:40

There's an interesting statistic regarding Domestic Violence and the Anti-immigration violence we've seen recently in the UK.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse

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Literally nobody is here to say the rioters are stand up British men. Nobody. This statistic will not surprise anyone and doesn’t change what we are discussing.

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:43

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:41

Yet more incomprehensible ranting. I haven't mentioned Afghanistan women. Are you arguing with the voices in your head again?

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That’s the logical extension of your ‘there’s no problems with individual cultures, it’s just men per se…’ fallacy.

All you’ve got is relentless side stepping, squirming and avoidance. I’m mortified for you.

Chinsupmeloves · 08/08/2025 18:42

From personal experience, it has always been men from different cultures who have been too pushy, even though they are married. This is just what I've encountered, especially as a young female. The few who have been the most persistent/followed me have come from Ghana, Iraq and Iran.

Of course some British men have been drunk and tried it on but have generally taken the hint and gone away.

As I said, just my own experience. Xxx

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:41

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:32

You can’t counter anything. You can’t even admit men from deeply misogynist countries are more likely to be misogynistic which is a conclusion anyone with half a brain can draw. You’re so wedded to your imaginary view of multiculturalism, and desperate to call everyone racist, that you’re comparing the experiences of women in the UK to women in Afghanistan which is just so deplorable I don’t know how you can hit ‘post’ without feeling a bit nauseated. The epitome of a luxury belief. How would they feel if you said to them ‘oh don’t worry, men are just the same in England?’

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Yet more incomprehensible ranting. I haven't mentioned Afghanistan women. Are you arguing with the voices in your head again?

EasternStandard · 08/08/2025 18:33

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:24

FFS this is just so disingenuous I’d be surprised if you didn’t feel faintly embarrassed writing it.

Let’s do a simple thought experiment.

You can be air dropped into either country - the USA or Afghanistan. Which do you choose?

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You won’t get an answer.

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:32

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:27

It seems as though you can't counter the argument, so you're talking about air drops.

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You can’t counter anything. You can’t even admit men from deeply misogynist countries are more likely to be misogynistic which is a conclusion anyone with half a brain can draw. You’re so wedded to your imaginary view of multiculturalism, and desperate to call everyone racist, that you’re comparing the experiences of women in the UK to women in Afghanistan which is just so deplorable I don’t know how you can hit ‘post’ without feeling a bit nauseated. The epitome of a luxury belief. How would they feel if you said to them ‘oh don’t worry, men are just the same in England?’

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:30

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SewNotHappy · 08/08/2025 18:29

As less than 1% of reported sexual assaults lead to a conviction and more than 60% of assaults go unreported, how can anyone possibly draw any conclusions about the ethnicity or anything else of the perpetrators?

AnnaBalfour · 08/08/2025 18:27

I’m not sure how they’d calculate percentages of dangerous men in relation to the size of the white/british or American population in comparison with the percentage of men of other nationalities with the UK/USA mainly white population.

But men who are dangerous to women are everywhere unfortunately.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 08/08/2025 18:27

JamesMacGill · 08/08/2025 18:24

FFS this is just so disingenuous I’d be surprised if you didn’t feel faintly embarrassed writing it.

Let’s do a simple thought experiment.

You can be air dropped into either country - the USA or Afghanistan. Which do you choose?

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It seems as though you can't counter the argument, so you're talking about air drops.