To think that white British/ American etcmen are just as much a threat to women as migrants?

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/aug/08/police-england-brace-disorder-far-right-promote-anti-migrant-protests

The far right aren't involved...

The state doesn't just let them in. It borrows billions upon billions of pounds to pay for it, and your great grandchildren will have to pay for it. Whilst those who are alive today are lectured about financial black holes and our industries are pushed to the bring with tax increases.

So your answer is "misogynists are misogynists". Groundbreaking stuff.

Do you understand that this kind of evasive dishonesty is costing you support? (I'm still pissed off at you accusing me of saying the far right protects women when literally my first line to you was agreeing that they weaponise it.) As a wise woman once said, to assume that people rejecting left wing bullshit means they love right wing bullshit is to underestimate just how much bullshit there is.

People aren't stupid. You can't do anything about far right media outlets but this is the kind of crap that stops many people from seeing you as a viable alternative and you can do something about this.

Threads gone quiet since the stats were posted..

Not sure if this has been mentioned or not, apologies if so. I hope people do understand that women in some cultures / religions do not report or discuss the violence, sexual or otherwise, that they are subject to behind closed doors. It’s impossible to accurately understand the level of VAWG in some cultures.

Women have always been the price for settling men’s discontent.

F*cking great. So we not only have an issue with our home grown paedos and rapists, we import men 16x or 11 times more likely to rape.

Honestly, you couldn't make this up.

Yes all men are a threat, but why would you want to increase that threat by allowing thousands of undocumented men into the country?

Greater threat to women and increased pressure on the police to keep everyone safe.

Wow.

So a comprehensive review of convictions by central police?

If we could get good statistics on the ethnicities of men who physically attack women, I don't know exactly what they'd show. I suspect White British men would fall somewhere in the middle, with some ethnicities more likely to and some less likely to.

I've got some stats to hand, from Germany.
From 2017 to 2021, Afghani and Pakistani men were 16x more likely to be accused of rape than German men. Men from the Maghreb were 11x more likely. Men from other EU countries had the same likelihood, but Romanians and Bulgarians were 3x as likely. East Asians (Chinese, Japanese etc) were less likely than German/other EU men to be accused of rape.

Source - Federal Criminal Police Office (Bundeskriminalamt).

There's also this article from January (paywalled though):
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/01/18/nearly-two-thirds-convicted-rapists-sweden-migrants/

Headline is "Nearly two thirds of convicted rapists in Sweden are migrants or second generation immigrants".

The Tories are liberals, there is nothing conservative about The Conservative Party.

Absolutely but as you know, it’s nothing but an excuse for them to be thugs. Same as Antifa - doesn’t mean the Gaza cause isn’t a worthy one, but yobbos always enjoy a riot and a chance to smash up public places.

Probably because it’s not visas that are being discussed on this thread.

We are discussing the threat of male VAWG in the UK wrt immigration.

Should we not discuss the overlap of male VAWG and those men who claim to be using violence to protect women and girls?

Why do you see mass immigration as something the left do? Are you aware that immigration peaked under the Tories?

If we could get good statistics on the ethnicities of men who physically attack women, I don't know exactly what they'd show. I suspect White British men would fall somewhere in the middle, with some ethnicities more likely to and some less likely to.

But I don't think we talk enough about culture and how that increases the likelihood of different crimes (or other activities). Culture in Britain and the West generally was heading towards greater equality for women and had been for a century. It was largely driven by Northern European cultural momentum. As Britain diversified those cultural pressures began to be diluted and while the momentum continued to build for a while, it eventually became somewhat derailed and other views of women regained some sway with the public.

Which is a long winded way of saying - white men aren't great on this front, that doesn't mean there aren't worse out there or that we should not talk about the way various cultural dimensions (from all the cultures that have an impact in the UK) can lead to normalizing or excusing VAWG.

Of the people who did something worthy of being arrested, 2 in 5 were already known to be scum bags. Not particularly shocking, scum bags will behave like scum bags.

Lots of ordinary people are frequently participating in protests right now though, and this stat won't be used to dismiss their legitimate concerns. According to YouGov, which tends to skew left, 73% of people think immigration has been too high in the past 10 years. The left has well and truly lost this argument.

Only Muslim men sexually harass and assault women?

The Taliban won’t be keeping a list of terrorists will they..?

Those entering illegally are on no watch list here but could be in their own countries if convicted of crimes, those from here will be on a list if convicted of certain crimes. More chance of it being known if not illegally here.

Stop hectoring me.

Absolutely not.

I was touched up in clubs in the 90s/2000s by kosovan men. Nothing was done.

Manchester woman raped by shop keeper and his mates, in the shops, Asian.

Asian grooming gangs

White men of course have done stuff to me that's not consensual but look at the mass groaping in Germany over nye.

White man are due to our child raring. These men don't like you because you aren't Muslim

I’ll stop messaging you gladly, but you haven’t answered it. You know you haven’t answered it, I know you haven’t answered it, the whole of Mumsnet can see you haven’t answered it.

I've already answered your question and would appreciate it if you stopped hectoring me.

Interesting how the voting has worked out. Reminds me of something