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To feel very uneasy at the latest 'conspiracy?' theory doing the rounds on social media?

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Cringingbutnamechanging · 08/08/2025 10:56

I keep seeing different versions of the same thing, people saying that there are 'isis sleeper cells' hiding among migrants and there are plans to target children/schools in a terror attack.

I rolled my eyes to begin with thinking it's all scare mongering or it could be some idiots trying to drum up support for 'Reform'

However, there's a sizable amount of people vowing to keep their children off school and not send them back in September on account of these rumours. That's what got my attention.

Am I being unreasonable/ridiculous to feel unnerved by all of this talk? Do you think there's any truth in it?

I've name changed incase I'm being ridiculous 😩

Please be kind, I have PND so I'm easy to scare I guess and would like some perspective from the level headed folks on mumsnet.

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Cringingbutnamechanging · 09/08/2025 19:40

To the PP who wrote about the person starting the rumour being 'Active Patriot' - thank you.

By chance he appeared on my Facebook feed today as a facebook friend shared one of his videos because it turns out he's from my hometown, in the arse end of nowhere. He rides around on a bicycle making a nuisance of himself and harassing MP's. He's probably on drugs as most men his age in that part of Grimsby are!

I'm much less worried now I know where it came from, what a dick head.

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Fairyliz · 09/08/2025 16:56

Well any of us could be run over by a bus tomorrow, it does happen.
I find it best to basically not think about it. I can recommend some funny cat videos on instagram if that would help?

Boomer55 · 09/08/2025 16:34

Cringingbutnamechanging · 08/08/2025 10:56

I keep seeing different versions of the same thing, people saying that there are 'isis sleeper cells' hiding among migrants and there are plans to target children/schools in a terror attack.

I rolled my eyes to begin with thinking it's all scare mongering or it could be some idiots trying to drum up support for 'Reform'

However, there's a sizable amount of people vowing to keep their children off school and not send them back in September on account of these rumours. That's what got my attention.

Am I being unreasonable/ridiculous to feel unnerved by all of this talk? Do you think there's any truth in it?

I've name changed incase I'm being ridiculous 😩

Please be kind, I have PND so I'm easy to scare I guess and would like some perspective from the level headed folks on mumsnet.

Who reads all this crap?

I remember the IRA sleeper cells - they never advertised what they were doing. 🙄

Locutus2000 · 09/08/2025 16:31

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Glitterblue · 09/08/2025 15:53

I’ve seen a lot of videos about it on TikTok the last couple of days and it’s really scared me. My husband reckons it’s just scaremongering and I hope he’s right, but if’s making me feeel so uneasy.

Dontlletmedownbruce · 08/08/2025 15:38

The people who keep their kids out of school are exactly the people who will cause terrorist attacks, by raising children to drop out of society and live their lives online where they are ripe for grooming either by racist groups or terrorist groups.

KateMiskin · 08/08/2025 15:37

And the police have asked people to help them out by not spreading rumours.

TheNoonBell · 08/08/2025 15:36

OVienna · 08/08/2025 14:07

I am not sure what you mean by conspiracy theories but we do have a friend in the police who said new leave is not being approved due to concerns around civil unrest although people on existing holidays could still go? I understood this was 'just' protest marches though, likely in September. Just sounded to me like reasonable thinking ahead...

There are a dozen protests today all around the country and more over the weekend. This is spreading rapidly.

Inchworms · 08/08/2025 14:17

OVienna · 08/08/2025 14:07

I am not sure what you mean by conspiracy theories but we do have a friend in the police who said new leave is not being approved due to concerns around civil unrest although people on existing holidays could still go? I understood this was 'just' protest marches though, likely in September. Just sounded to me like reasonable thinking ahead...

Yeah you’re right actually, it’s massively more likely that the OP or others will be seriously hurt by the racists and their ‘protests’ - that’s something worth being aware of, much more so than migrant sleeper cells.

OVienna · 08/08/2025 14:07

I am not sure what you mean by conspiracy theories but we do have a friend in the police who said new leave is not being approved due to concerns around civil unrest although people on existing holidays could still go? I understood this was 'just' protest marches though, likely in September. Just sounded to me like reasonable thinking ahead...

BauhausOfEliott · 08/08/2025 14:01

However, there's a sizable amount of people vowing to keep their children off school and not send them back in September on account of these rumours

They're fucking idiots, then.

Don't give this a second thought. We're no more at risk from terror attacks from asylum seekers than we are from people who were born here.

Wordsmithery · 08/08/2025 13:51

Even if it were true (which I highly doubt, to put it mildly) I personally refuse to live my life in fear and will carry on as normal unless I get clear evidence that I should do otherwise.
Life is not without risk but you wouldn't stay in the house for fear of getting hit by a bus, would you?
There are a lot of people out there, at home and abroad, trying to instil fear and unrest via our electronic devices. Ignore them.

rosa17 · 08/08/2025 13:33

This 'rumour' was initiated by a far right man who calls himself 'Active Patriot'. He's known on the far right circuit as someone who likes to stir up hate through false and misleading info. Don't fall for fascist lies!
https://hopenothate.org.uk/case-files-alan-leggett/

Isxmasoveryet · 08/08/2025 13:01

Also if we are panic buying loo rolls and pasta of the back of this can someone give me heads up I missed out last time didn't check social media in time lol would like to get involved this time round lol

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 13:00

mindutopia · 08/08/2025 12:56

Who are you friends with that this is the crap you’re seeing on social media? My social media is all smoothies and chicken keeping and the occasional video of cute goats.

It's not just friends though, it's algorithms.
Say if you're on Twitter and you interact or read an article, then it'll push more and more of the same at you as it'll think you're interested. Next thing you know you're in an echo chamber/down a rabbit hole.
It's worrying.

mindutopia · 08/08/2025 12:56

Who are you friends with that this is the crap you’re seeing on social media? My social media is all smoothies and chicken keeping and the occasional video of cute goats.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 12:51

Cringingbutnamechanging · 08/08/2025 11:17

I highly doubt that had anything to do with an anxious mum with PND asking for reassurance about social media scaremongering. How dare you? What a horrible thing to say.

I think the poster meant the re spreading and repeating conspiracy theories makes more people exposed to them, causing more and more worry in turn leading to real life attacks as they get more and more sucked in. Not you in particular.
Not sure what's to be done about it really, but feeding into the panic isn't going to help.
As others have said, step away from the internet, get into nature. Sounds daft but it helps

Isxmasoveryet · 08/08/2025 12:50

Well it on social media and we all know that is where all the experts are so it must be the gospel truth lol
I would take any Facebook nonsense with a grain of salt

luckylavender · 08/08/2025 12:48

HoskinsChoice · 08/08/2025 11:00

Step away from the Internet. I haven't seen a single comment like this until you mentioned it. This suggests you're reading the wrong things. Close your social media accounts and live your life. You will do yourself no favours by reading this stuff. Live your life in the real world, not though scaremongering on the Internet. Their sole purpose is to scare and its working.

I’ve seen nothing. Step away from the madness.

FreezeDriedStrawberries · 08/08/2025 12:47

HoskinsChoice · 08/08/2025 11:00

Step away from the Internet. I haven't seen a single comment like this until you mentioned it. This suggests you're reading the wrong things. Close your social media accounts and live your life. You will do yourself no favours by reading this stuff. Live your life in the real world, not though scaremongering on the Internet. Their sole purpose is to scare and its working.

Exactly this.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/08/2025 12:40

PollyBell · 08/08/2025 11:28

People need to use their interrligence and take responsibility for believing what they want to believe, the word vulnerable seems to be used as a get out jail of thinking card

If people are intelligent enough to take some information in why do they take the the racist trouble making information and not actual legitimate facts

People cant keep on blaming others because they cant decide what is make beleive and what is truth, and these people are raising the next generation?

Parents need to take some responsibility for how thry teachers their children to think, we cant blame everyone else

Vulnerable includes those of lower intelligence, lower literacy and cognition as well as others who are less able to detect subtexts and inferences the writers are making - which also involves the inability to see that they are being wound up/lied to/manipulated or even that it's an attempt to use persuasive writing in the first place.

It's a rich seam to mine for political purposes, what with 6.5m+ of the adult population having the literacy levels at or lower than a child who has reached the age of criminal responsibility, irrespective of their IQ. 17% of adults having a low IQ (below 90) means around 11m in all.

Vulnerable also includes people taught to hate who may have average or higher intelligence/literacy/ability or have come to their opinions of their own volition.

givemushypeasachance · 08/08/2025 11:29

There's always a risk that terrorists may target children or schools in attacks. Terrorists want to spread terror, panic, cause distress to the maximum number of people or attack targets that will get a lot of attention. Significant public buildings - Parliament, Buckingham Palace, popular tourist attractions with lots of people. Big sporting music or cultural events. Crowds. Children and schools. If you're looking for a "soft target" and not to get shot by armed police within ten seconds then you're not likely to go for the likes of a central London public building or the bus parade for the Lionesses. There are tens of thousands of schools and nurseries...

But - schools and nurseries have security, you can't just walk into a school building with a knife and start stabbing people. Thankfully it's still hard to get guns in this country. And schools do practice lockdown procedures. Short of stationing armed police at every school like they do in some parts of America (and look where that gets them) you can't do much more. Every person who dies in a terror attack is one too many, but your kids are more likely to be in a car accident driving to school.

PollyBell · 08/08/2025 11:28

NeverDropYourMooncup · 08/08/2025 11:14

It makes me uneasy too - that racists are causing distress to vulnerable people by starting such rumours, knowing that they will be spread by both fellow racists and the vulnerable people themselves and the danger this poses to not just refugees, asylum seekers and migrants, but to all people who are of different ethnicities/faiths or could be perceived to be.

The pretending to be a normal, worried, concerned 'I'm not a racialist [sic], but...' posts are also worrying. Not just because they exist in the first place, but because not everybody recognises them as such.

But it's been at least 6 hours since the last racist thread started on Mumsnet, so we're probably overdue another one by now.

People need to use their interrligence and take responsibility for believing what they want to believe, the word vulnerable seems to be used as a get out jail of thinking card

If people are intelligent enough to take some information in why do they take the the racist trouble making information and not actual legitimate facts

People cant keep on blaming others because they cant decide what is make beleive and what is truth, and these people are raising the next generation?

Parents need to take some responsibility for how thry teachers their children to think, we cant blame everyone else

Cringingbutnamechanging · 08/08/2025 11:28

I will bow out now and wait for MN to delete the thread as some people are hell bent on rewriting my intentions.

Thank you those of you who have posted kindly.

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Cringingbutnamechanging · 08/08/2025 11:26

KateMiskin · 08/08/2025 11:25

Nope, for the last two weeks MN has been absolutely awash with racist rumour spreading threads. I ignored them but now I report and call out.

Yeah you're biased. I'm not racist or inciting racism.

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