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3kiddosandme · 2025-08-08T08:21:29+00:00

At this point im thinking my landlord is just a spiteful dickhead, I'll go into as much detail as possible here. Earlier this year I was sent a section 21 notice out of nowhere, I questioned this and the landlord said because of significant damages to the property I have to leave. Now I have evidence that these significant damages are not my fault, I had the environmental health in because I was fed up of living in a shit hole basically, the whole house needs ripping out and fixing including floorboards and external doors according to the local council who did the inspection, the landlord also has to take up an asbestos survey due to damaged ceiling in the hallway. I have 3 kids I the house, one is additional needs. I was offered a house by a housing association and I accepted, im yet to get the keys but the house was on major repair, I said this to the current landlord who said they were happy to let me wait it out, no repairs have done either by the current landlord as per the council report. They took me to court to evict me even though theyd said I could stay until my house was ready, ive never been behind on rent always paid in full and on time, a week ago the landlord turned up completely unannounced banging on the door I opened the door and I was told I should've moved out by now as the court stated the 25th july, I told them to get a warrant for eviction and come back with bailiffs, as of yet I haven't heard anything from the bailiffs. I emailed expressing that they didnt give any notice and they turned up with keys to let themselves in and since I haven't returned keys or made them aware that ive moved it was completely unacceptable. They stated that they sent a letter, they never did as ive still not recieved this magic letter they apparently sent. Anyway every single day they are emailing me asking for keys to be returned and I keep telling them I will return the keys once I have moved. At this point I just think they are being absolute dickheads. I hopefully should get the keys to the new property today. Wibu to move and then throw they keys into their office in an envelope and leave without saying a word.

thebraveryofbeingoutofrange · 08/08/2025 16:42

Nanny0gg · 08/08/2025 16:40

'Those types'?

This is why private landlords have a bad rep

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Not all, there was a decent landlord on here a few pages back. This character though, pretty repulsive.

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:40

Ah, I’ve got the wrong end of the stick. You’re taking about people who want social housing, that’s what I meant by benefit people (bad turn of phrase). I didn’t rent to those types of people which is why I was surprised it was standard practice. Makes sense.

I'm talking about people who end up needing social housing, which in the current climate isn't remotely just people on benefits

It wasn't a bad turn of phrase, it was a vile turn of phrase, but at least showed your attitude clear as day.

Nanny0gg · 08/08/2025 16:40

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:36

Ah, I’ve got the wrong end of the stick. You’re taking about people who want social housing, that’s what I meant by benefit people (bad turn of phrase). I didn’t rent to those types of people which is why I was surprised it was standard practice. Makes sense.

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'Those types'?

This is why private landlords have a bad rep

thebraveryofbeingoutofrange · 08/08/2025 16:39

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:32

I’ve rented a flat out several tines in London when working abroad, think I’ve had 7 tenancies and I’ve never had to take legal action of any kind. Although not in the last 5 years. Are we just taking about benefit people here or are you including regular renters who pay through employment?

Benefit people? What a phrase...

How many times have you asked tenants to leave?

The only tenant I've ever had to evict was a chap who had a job when he took on the flat, so what you'd call a regular renter.

Standard round here for LL's to keep it in kind because the LA here, and the next one along, will consider people intentionally homeless if they leave before the bailiffs arrive.

LA after that will consider you homeless after it's been to court, but before bailiffs.

It's not just "benefit people" that end up needing to present as homeless when the landlord decides to move them on.

Benefit people? What a phrase…

Quite.

Sub human maybe. Disgusting.

Nanny0gg · 08/08/2025 16:38

Swiftie1878 · 08/08/2025 11:08

You’ve trashed his house and won’t move out (despite a court order to do so), but HE’S the spiteful dickhead? I don’t think so.

Why are you making things up?

Poor comprehension?

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:38

It is absolutely bonkers. but who benefits? not the landlord nor the tenants.
It wont change - the legal system have got it all tied up - costing £1,000s

Councils benefit. They get more time before the are required to house to the folks who end up with them.

They also end up not having to house some people that they should because they class anyone who is bullied or intimidated into leaving as being intentionally homeless.

They also benefit (sometimes briefly) when people end up taking a property they can't afford or one from a scum slum landlord just to escape the uncertainty.

It's a ridiculous system.

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:36

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:32

I’ve rented a flat out several tines in London when working abroad, think I’ve had 7 tenancies and I’ve never had to take legal action of any kind. Although not in the last 5 years. Are we just taking about benefit people here or are you including regular renters who pay through employment?

Benefit people? What a phrase...

How many times have you asked tenants to leave?

The only tenant I've ever had to evict was a chap who had a job when he took on the flat, so what you'd call a regular renter.

Standard round here for LL's to keep it in kind because the LA here, and the next one along, will consider people intentionally homeless if they leave before the bailiffs arrive.

LA after that will consider you homeless after it's been to court, but before bailiffs.

It's not just "benefit people" that end up needing to present as homeless when the landlord decides to move them on.

Ah, I’ve got the wrong end of the stick. You’re taking about people who want social housing, that’s what I meant by benefit people (bad turn of phrase). I didn’t rent to those types of people which is why I was surprised it was standard practice. Makes sense.

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 16:34

3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 16:11

Many people also stop paying their rent after the section 21 which i didn't do, although I was incredibly pissed off I still paid because I dont want them turning around and saying well now we can claim back money because you didnt pay the rent for the length of the tenancy and since im still living here I am technically still a tenant until the day I leave

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The people who do that would be really silly. Councils do check for rent arrears even if it is a section 21. Its just not worth the risk.

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:33

*Keep it in mind

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:33

AnonymousBleep · 08/08/2025 16:31

Yeah she could easily have just moved into a tent on the roadside with her three kids and intentionally made herself homeless, ensuring her landlord would be free to rent out his health hazard of a dump to someone else without having to fix any of the problems. What a selfish cow!

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Or something less dramatic like renting somewhere else.

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:32

I’ve rented a flat out several tines in London when working abroad, think I’ve had 7 tenancies and I’ve never had to take legal action of any kind. Although not in the last 5 years. Are we just taking about benefit people here or are you including regular renters who pay through employment?

Benefit people? What a phrase...

How many times have you asked tenants to leave?

The only tenant I've ever had to evict was a chap who had a job when he took on the flat, so what you'd call a regular renter.

Standard round here for LL's to keep it in kind because the LA here, and the next one along, will consider people intentionally homeless if they leave before the bailiffs arrive.

LA after that will consider you homeless after it's been to court, but before bailiffs.

It's not just "benefit people" that end up needing to present as homeless when the landlord decides to move them on.

AnonymousBleep · 08/08/2025 16:31

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 15:02

Yes it’s straight forward, Why even stay so long in the first place when it’s a dump anyway

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Yeah she could easily have just moved into a tent on the roadside with her three kids and intentionally made herself homeless, ensuring her landlord would be free to rent out his health hazard of a dump to someone else without having to fix any of the problems. What a selfish cow!

Housechallenge · 08/08/2025 16:29

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 08/08/2025 16:12

It is absolutely bonkers. but who benefits? not the landlord nor the tenants.
It wont change - the legal system have got it all tied up - costing £1,000s

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The coincil benefits it means they buy more time before they have to help the tenant.

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:25

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:06

I don't understand why some posters appear to be incapable of grasping this.

People are so bad at grasping that tenancies require a legal process to end them.

I ended up having to explain it to someone (a so-called accidental landlord) along the basis of marriage and divorce - S21 = I'm leaving you. Court date = decree nisi. Baliffs = Absolute.

I’ve rented a flat out several tines in London when working abroad, think I’ve had 7 tenancies and I’ve never had to take legal action of any kind. Although not in the last 5 years. Are we just taking about benefit people here or are you including regular renters who pay through employment?

Iwanttoliveonamountain · 08/08/2025 16:12

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:03

That every landlord you know expects to go through legal action and bailiffs at the end of every tenancy? It seems madness.

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It is absolutely bonkers. but who benefits? not the landlord nor the tenants.
It wont change - the legal system have got it all tied up - costing £1,000s

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3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 16:11

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:08

That every landlord you know expects to go through legal action and bailiffs at the end of every tenancy? It seems madness.

Standard on the landlord forum I use. Also advised in the local landlord advice group.

It's standard practise for LA's to demand from people looking for housing so it's downright stupidity for landlords not to also factor it into their plans as standard.

It should be seen as a bonus if the tenant leaves without requiring that part of the legal process.

Many people also stop paying their rent after the section 21 which i didn't do, although I was incredibly pissed off I still paid because I dont want them turning around and saying well now we can claim back money because you didnt pay the rent for the length of the tenancy and since im still living here I am technically still a tenant until the day I leave

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ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:08

That every landlord you know expects to go through legal action and bailiffs at the end of every tenancy? It seems madness.

Standard on the landlord forum I use. Also advised in the local landlord advice group.

It's standard practise for LA's to demand from people looking for housing so it's downright stupidity for landlords not to also factor it into their plans as standard.

It should be seen as a bonus if the tenant leaves without requiring that part of the legal process.

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:06

I don't understand why some posters appear to be incapable of grasping this.

People are so bad at grasping that tenancies require a legal process to end them.

I ended up having to explain it to someone (a so-called accidental landlord) along the basis of marriage and divorce - S21 = I'm leaving you. Court date = decree nisi. Baliffs = Absolute.

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 16:03

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:00

Is that true? What a complete waste of time and money for everyone involved

Which bit do you think is untrue?

That's the legal process for a landlord wishing to end a tenancy. Often tenants leave after the S21, because they have somewhere else to go, which ends the tenancy by agreement.

To end the legal agreement you have to go through a legal process. Every landlord who rents a property should be fully aware of the process legally required from them to end a tenancy, and given that it is very well known that to obtain social housing people have no choice but to see the process through they should be expecting to go to the full point of the process.

That every landlord you know expects to go through legal action and bailiffs at the end of every tenancy? It seems madness.

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 16:00

Is that true? What a complete waste of time and money for everyone involved

Which bit do you think is untrue?

That's the legal process for a landlord wishing to end a tenancy. Often tenants leave after the S21, because they have somewhere else to go, which ends the tenancy by agreement.

To end the legal agreement you have to go through a legal process. Every landlord who rents a property should be fully aware of the process legally required from them to end a tenancy, and given that it is very well known that to obtain social housing people have no choice but to see the process through they should be expecting to go to the full point of the process.

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3kiddosandme · 08/08/2025 15:55

I've also added 5 pages from the environmental health report to give context, the actual full report is around 9/10 pages long

To think my landlord is a spiteful dickhead

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LakieLady · 08/08/2025 15:47

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · 08/08/2025 13:09

The Housing Officer will have told the Op she had to stay until either she got the keys to her new home or the Bailiffs turned up.

@3kiddosandme Are you due the return of a deposit ?

Congratulations on getting a social housing property, it is taking years in South Devon.

It's so bad in most parts of Sussex (and some parts of Kent) that councils are leasing private rented properties from landlords for 3-year terms. They then use them as temp accommodation for homeless families. One family I know was in such a property for 5 years before they got a council place. (And that was actually a bit of a fluke: they got the property they moved to under "local connection" rules, as it was in the village they'd been living in for 5 years!)

It's an expensive way of doing things, but nowhere near as expensive as keeping homeless families in B&Bs.

LakieLady · 08/08/2025 15:40

Swiftie1878 · 08/08/2025 12:45

The court will have taken housing availability into account when setting the date.
She’s made no effort to comply, yet he’s the spiteful dickhead.

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If the courts took the availability of housing into account, they'd never set a date, at least not in this part of the SE.

LakieLady · 08/08/2025 15:38

DrPrunesqualer · 08/08/2025 12:20

Only if you’re made legally homeless. That only happens once the bayliffs move in to evict you. That’s not at the end date of the s21. It’s a further process

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I don't understand why some posters appear to be incapable of grasping this.

ByMerryDeer · 08/08/2025 15:36

ARichtGoodDram · 08/08/2025 15:27

Actually, she will have been told by the court that if she hadn't left by that date then bailiffs would be appointed. Not quite the same thing.

Every landlord should budget (in time and finances) for needing the full legal process for ending a tenancy - which this is - as standard.

It's been standard for at least the last decade that people going into social housing had to go through the full legal tenancy ending process so any landlord not aware of it or expecting it only has themselves to blame.

Every decent landlord I know basically expects to have to go through that process and it's a bonus if they leave earlier than they legally have to. It's something I've budgeted for with every tenant I've had.

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Is that true? What a complete waste of time and money for everyone involved