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On holiday and I don’t know if I’m unreasonable!

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SunnyBlueSeal · 07/08/2025 15:01

I’m really hoping for some perspective here. We are currently in Spain with my friends for a holiday. It’s us ( myself, DH and DC 14,16 ) and my friends ( Kate, Neil, DC 14,17) obviously names are changed. Kate was my friend for a few years through the activities. They invited us for a holiday with them. We booked two different villas about 5min walk from each other and right on the beach. Since we got here, Kate and my DH are spending more and more time together. This is our full third day here, and so far today, they met running at 7am and booked a spontaneous paddle boarding for themselves at 10am. We were all on the beach later and went for a lunch. I went back to the villa to get some plasters and they both turned up. My DH said he is changing his top as he and Kate will walk to the town to get a few bits. All of the DC are spending their time on the beach learning windsurfing with the local club so I don’t need DH to help with childcare. Kate’s husband Neil has a work project to do so he spends about 5 hours a day working in their villa. I’m starting to feel like a 3rd wheel to my friend and my DH. I’m getting grumpy when I’m around them and I don’t want to push him away but I don’t know how to get out of this mood. And another thing which got me thinking is at the dinner, Kate asked for a sparkling water and my DH said he wants some too. He never drank fucking sparkling water but when I pulled him on it, he said it’s because I only drink a still water so he did too. So for years you were drinking still water because of me? Have a sparkling water if you want! Something is feeling odd and I can’t put my finger on it

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Waterbortle · 07/08/2025 17:18

It's possible Kate thinks she's doing the right thing. Her DH can't do activities because he's working, you can't because of your injury, so it makes some sense for them to do them together.

If that is the case, she's misjudged it (and so has DH by agreeing to it so freely) but the only way to find out and resolve it is to talk to them, maybe over dinner when everyone else is there?

MyLimeGuide · 07/08/2025 17:18

DBD1975 · 07/08/2025 16:23

OP you are so not unreasonable.
This situation is totally unacceptable, is your DH usually so inconsiderate.
Sod being pleasant and calm I would go full on ballistic with him, he needs to know you will not tolerate this behaviour because what you do tolerate will continue and it will escalate.

This. OMG what a pair of C☆☆TS im so angry and upset for you OP 😤

MikeRafone · 07/08/2025 17:16

your husband getting angry when you brought up about time he is spending with another woman on holiday - as you say is very telling

I think there is something wrong with your marriage and is it worth salvaging or not?

id say to both of them together - im feeling like a gooseberry on my own holiday, not a nice feeling

Nanatobethatsme46 · 07/08/2025 17:13

Careful.a relative of mine went on holiday with his wife and teenage kids, met a family overseas and they all got on well , spent the holiday together , seems the relationship between the wife and the friends hubby started once they got home , they were at it behind his back for a while
Now divorced

TheBlueUser · 07/08/2025 17:12

Yeah that's not cool - I would be fuming with both of them and would also find it very hard not to be moody.

Kate is being REALLY inconsiderate arranging all these things you can't join. Fair enough they want to do them, but she could at least discuss it with you in a sort of, I know you can't join but I would like to do xyz, we'll be x amount of time and then let's do whatever you want.

Your husband is likely enjoying the attention, when he should be saying no thanks Kate, I would prefer to do something my wife can join in as well.

Who wants to be sat on holiday on their own for most of the day?

Shegotanology · 07/08/2025 17:12

Either bring it to their attention how they're making you feel or book the next flight home and leave them to it.

MrsLizzieDarcy · 07/08/2025 17:10

The fact he's got defensive about it says that he knows he's in the wrong. I think your gut is trying to tell you something here. There's obviously an attraction between them, but I'm bloody minded and I wouldn't be dragging him back to my side saying pick me. I'd be on the next flight home.

Zempy · 07/08/2025 17:10

Why can’t you talk to Kate about it?

I would say “it seems DH has developed a little crush on you. Please don’t encourage him, it’s making me feel quite uncomfortable.”

Topseyt123 · 07/08/2025 17:10

Scarylett · 07/08/2025 17:08

I would ask her why she is spending so much time with your husband.

So would I. Pronto.

CrazyBaubles · 07/08/2025 17:09

I think you need to be quite direct and do it to both of them when you’re all together. Next time they say ‘we’re going running/swimming etc’ can you say something about not wanting to spend the whole holiday on your own?

I think I’d be really pissed off and not sure if this would be the best way to handle it but I also think if anything is building between them they both need to know you are aware and annoyed.

Topseyt123 · 07/08/2025 17:08

SunnyBlueSeal · 07/08/2025 16:54

Tbh honest, that’s how I feel. But I’m also annoyed with Kate. She keeps arranging the activities for them, and I can’t say that they can’t do them just because I can’t. I really don’t want to feel grumpy and miserable but the resentment it’s bubbling inside me!

But you can tell her (and your DH) that the way they are behaving is inappropriate and making you feel like the third wheel.

Hopefully she has the grace to be at least a little bit embarrassed. If either of them gets defensive then you might have your answer. They would be realising that they hadn't been as subtle as they thought they had been, and that you were watching now.

They seem to have been pretty careless and blatant to be honest. Your children have probably noticed by now too and it will be embarrassing and hard for them. Do Kate and Neil have any children with them?

Scarylett · 07/08/2025 17:08

I would ask her why she is spending so much time with your husband.

W0tnow · 07/08/2025 17:07

It’s not so much about being assertive enough to state what you want to happen, it’s that your husband and your friend know, or should know, that it just isn’t cool to leave you on your own for long periods of time on what is supposed to be a group holiday. And that you would prefer to not be on your own. Yet they are engineering these situations, because that is what they want. Your husband is spending time with her because he wants to do that rather than include you. She is doing the same.

So you could make your feelings known, and they could behave better, but ultimately they’ve made it clear what their preference is.

ohfourfoxache · 07/08/2025 17:07

Your spidey senses are there for a reason……

AngelicKaty · 07/08/2025 17:07

SunnyBlueSeal · 07/08/2025 16:54

Tbh honest, that’s how I feel. But I’m also annoyed with Kate. She keeps arranging the activities for them, and I can’t say that they can’t do them just because I can’t. I really don’t want to feel grumpy and miserable but the resentment it’s bubbling inside me!

I agree OP. Everyone's very focussed on your DH's inconsiderate behaviour (which, of course, it is) but "Kate" seems to be getting a bit of a free pass here. If she's primarily your friend, why isn't she arranging to do some things with you too? I understand that she's potentially at a bit of a loose end with her own DH working, but arranging activities only with your DH is inconsiderate and I'm really surprised she can't see how excluded you would feel. I'd be feeling quite pissed off with her too.

SunnyBlueSeal · 07/08/2025 17:06

LumpyandBumps · 07/08/2025 16:53

Is Neil shaggable?

Seriously, have you spoken to him to find out his opinion?
His insight may be helpful.

Yes Neil is shaggable and also a very lovely person. I would definitely not cross the boundaries of spending the time doing activities on our own. The only time we were together is when all of us are in the group

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Sparkletastic · 07/08/2025 17:04

Yeah he’s into Kate and she’s into the attention. I’d be having words with DH.

Scarylett · 07/08/2025 17:04

MissyB1 · 07/08/2025 16:59

So talk to her. Explain how you feel and ask for some consideration, tell her firmly you and dh need some time as a couple.

This. She’s really taking the mick. Pull her up on it. If she feels offended then boo hoo. Why should you be the one feeling irritated and left out.

Createausername1970 · 07/08/2025 17:03

SunnyBlueSeal · 07/08/2025 16:54

Tbh honest, that’s how I feel. But I’m also annoyed with Kate. She keeps arranging the activities for them, and I can’t say that they can’t do them just because I can’t. I really don’t want to feel grumpy and miserable but the resentment it’s bubbling inside me!

Then you need to be blunt with Kate.

PreciousTatas · 07/08/2025 17:03

Actually, sod the beach surveillance.

If your DH genuinely doesn't give a shit that you are upset that he is spending all his time with another woman, then I'd go to Neil and tell him that I am flying home, and why.

Jellycatspyjamas · 07/08/2025 17:01

SunnyBlueSeal · 07/08/2025 16:54

Tbh honest, that’s how I feel. But I’m also annoyed with Kate. She keeps arranging the activities for them, and I can’t say that they can’t do them just because I can’t. I really don’t want to feel grumpy and miserable but the resentment it’s bubbling inside me!

Well you can say your DH has other priorities and you’d like him to spend time with you. I’d also be disappointed that my friend invited my family on holiday and then monopolised my DHs time, and that she also didn’t seek me (her actual friend) out. They’re both behaving badly.

dollyblue01 · 07/08/2025 17:00

Oh and tell Kate your having time alone with your husband and not to arrange any more activities at present as you want to spend time together alone , make it clear to her and stop letting her dictate what is going to happen, be strong woman.

waterrat · 07/08/2025 16:59

I presume there are deeper issues in your marriage. You say you don't want to risk pushing him away by saying it makes you unhappy ? Why would you fear that ?

If your relationship was working wrll he would be focused on you and enjoying time with you. I would say this isn't really about kate she is a symptom and he is always a shit husband.

LilacReader · 07/08/2025 16:59

SunnyBlueSeal · 07/08/2025 16:54

Tbh honest, that’s how I feel. But I’m also annoyed with Kate. She keeps arranging the activities for them, and I can’t say that they can’t do them just because I can’t. I really don’t want to feel grumpy and miserable but the resentment it’s bubbling inside me!

What would he do if you arranged something for your family only? Can you try it? If he then says it's unfair to leave her alone - ask him to explain the difference between you and her.

tara66 · 07/08/2025 16:59

Ask him if he would like you to go home.
Tell him you want to go home anyway - because of his behaviour and you are having a terrible time and he is being ridiculously obtuse if nothing is going on!