On holiday and I don’t know if I’m unreasonable!

This and it's really exacerbated his haemorrhoid problem.
Only last night when you and your husband were making love, he got caught short and you had to strip rather bed.

I'd also be steaming if I was left on my own on a family holiday by DH like this. Absolutely furious.

I feel the same. So sorry Op, they’re both so inconsiderate. If I were you, I’d focus on having a good time with your DCs & make plans to ditch your DH when you get back.

I wondered the same!

Oh I would so enjoy making her fucking squirm.

I’d be asking her to help me with something (drinks from the bar, whatever) and would really quietly and with a smile on my face say ‘The fuck you think you’re playing at? Don’t fuck with me sweetheart, you’ve got zero chance of winning. And don’t fret, I’ll be having this chat with my husband too’. I’d smile sweetly again before waltzing back to the table / wherever.

People like Kate thrive on others not saying anything but doing it quietly, without making a scene will leave her speechless and spluttering. She will DIE inside.

And then makes plans for a day out tomorrow with just your husband and kids.

Are you fking joking, how dare they carry on like this, you’re a saint for not pulling her up.

Jesus I am fuming for you. Disgusting behaviour from the both of them. They obviously are completely unaware of how transparent they are.

you’re a better woman than me because I’d have had to embarrass her infront of everyone.

Both of them can get in the bin. I’d not be able to look at DH the same after this show.

As I’ve learned from experience, this is why passive types get walked all over. Kate will obviously know this and is taking full advantage. OP’s DH sounds like a selfish twat and he obviously also knows that op will tolerate more than she should. I just hope, with this thread that op will finally confront the pair of them! They sound absolutely vile!

Hope your able to find a way to enjoy some of this holiday OP. You are certainly not being unreasonable!!

What is positive about the situation op has talked about? Should someone instead say
Dont worry about it, let it happen and have a great holiday and see what happens when you get home .im sure everything with be perfect
She needs to make them both aware that this is not acceptable now while its happening .
Myself id ditch them both , even if they are not physically cheating yet all the signs are there he prefers the friend to his wife

Are you ok being so passive? You’re being disrespected and rather than say something to them both, you’re quietly seething and planning a separation?

Id be saying something to Neil over dinner “hey Neil, so what do you make of your wife and husband getting so close? I’m not even getting invited to activities now, should we be worried?” (deadpan face).

Yeah why can’t you go out for dinner just your family? It’s not unreasonable. You don’t even need to say to the other family.

and show your hubby this thread.

I would flip my lid in your position. I’d pull her to one side and say it as it is, how would she feel should the shoe be on the other foot. Also would you in her position even do this? If that feels wrong to you then yes it’s wrong. Personally I wouldn’t have it, I’d be saying she needs to stay behind and watch over the kids so you can go out with your husband and have some quality time with him, then when you are out see what the vibe is a women’s instinct is always right…

Tell Kate you’re worried because your husband keeps experiencing explosive diarrhoea and has shit his pants several times. 😉

I'm a bit confused about why the kids are not tearing the misbehaving parents a new one.

An old friend of my Mum's once got mildly too friendly with her in front of my Dad and I nearly tore the ceiling down.

This!

When did you injure yourself and when was the holiday planned?

Urgh yes she clearly Isn’t your friend, and doesn’t particularly like you. Her dh is busy so rather than spend time with you she has chosen your husband to be her
holiday buddy instead. Shit
of your dh to go along with it.

Why do you have to have meals together all of the time? Why can't you, DH and your kids have dinner by yourselves? Please stop being so passive OP.

@SunnyBlueSeal Tomorrow night plan dinner with your kids separately. Organise it in the morning. No discussion, not asking telling them.

And honestly I wouldn't be able to let it lie with my DH. I would be telling him his behaviour has fundamentally changed how I view our relationship and my plan is to make it through as drama free as possible with the kids but when we got home I would be considering my next steps.

Then I would shut him down and tell him to save his attempts manipulation until we got home to protect the kids holiday.

Would have cramped Kate’s style if she did! I would have gone and made a point of making Kate feel very uncomfortable lol

Listen to your gut instinct. It will serve you well.

Are you sure they’re not swingers and Kate is getting things off the ground?

It is a shame for your kids you didnt go to dinner with them all, I bet they would have wanted you there

I don't think I could have sat through a dinner with them either.

"Neil" in my head is Neil Morrissey in his Men Behaving Badly era. I think that makes @SunnyBlueSeal's DH Martin Clunes.🤔