AIBU to think that 'patriarchy chicken' isn't the whole story?

There is slavery in Britain today. Not legal but it is happening now. Not on the same scale as the Atlantic slave trade and not state sanctioned but I'm not sure that matters to the people concerned.

The slave trade does continue today, in the US, UK, Europe, Australia, NZ, and every other corner of the world. Under the name of human trafficking.

Sexism against men is fine apparently. Stereotyping all men as barging into women, also fine.

I’ve certainly never seen this, generally I see men constantly yielding.

Feels like stirring up sex-based division to me And let’s face it, you never know who is behind these posts.

@GertrudePerkinsPaperyThingabsolutely yes I would, because that’s how (whether they are bold enough to admit it or not) much of society in places like the UK and US behave.

I can't believe how many replies there were saying that you can't be racist to white people. It's ridiculous

Rascism against white people is fine apparently. Stereotyping all white women as barging into people of colour, also fine.

Ive certainly never seen this, generally I see women constantly yielding.

Feels like stirring up racial division to me And let's face it, you never know who is behind these posts.

Unfortunately it has to be said that was the right thing to do at the time it was done. Whether you or I believe it right or wrong we live in a country where the law must be adhered to. And the laws at the time were that people must be compensated for the forfeiture of property. You think they wanted to pay that vast sum of money out? Of course they didn't but it had to be done.

If they died in transit I'm pretty sure that's the very second they were quite literally 'over it'. No one is alive today however, with any living memory of that time so surely it's not something they need to be concerned about. If it is, what is the optimal number of years that's reasonable to say for all intents and purposes it's forgotten about?

People who died on the ships were most likely in a terrible state at the beginning of the journey. Famine was rife. It wasn't in the traders interest to have at the time a 'valuable comodity' die in transit and it would make sense would it not that every effort would be made to have the slaves looking as healthy as possible as it makes no sense they wouldn't want to get the highest value possible.

Fwiw I'm mixed race and I can't stand hearing people making a personal issue about a long forgotten trade that effects no one today.

Can you not re read your comment about the slave trade and not see what an utterly vile comment racist you have made? Do the four million (current estimates) slaves who died in transport not matter and they just need to get over it and relinquish their victimhood? Or do only white lives matter?

I live in London. Sometimes I’m the barger (I usually notice after the fact because I’m in a sleep deprived haze and corralling my children making sure they don’t bash into anyone). If reflexes allow I will shout sorry over my shoulder. If people give space on a pavement I will try to make eye contact and say thank you. Sometimes I’m the barged. It’s always a white person when it does happen. Across gender and age.

To anyone questioning OP - please ask yourself if you know when someone is being sexist. PoC know when someone is being racist. Please believe them. The world is a LOT more racist than you think (and has sadly become worse).

It's a power issue. People didn't own slaves because they were black, they owned them due to personal circumstance. Their personal circumstances were not due to skin pigmentation, they were due to unfortunate demographics.

Besides, if we look at the entirety of human history then more white people have been enslaved than black people. Why we only consider a very small segment of human history where predominantly black people were enslaved I think has much more to do with the kind of people who are happy to use that cause and those people to push their own agenda in proving to everybody else just how good of of a person they are in pointing that out.

pull the other one, it’s gone bells on, as my nan would say 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂

This. ^ Not allowed. 😒 Say what you like about white women though. Same as Christians. Seems perfectly acceptable to bash both of these in society (oh and white men too.) No-one else though.

Hi I’m mixed race and live in London, this is rare this happens. A woman bumped into me in a Caribbean takeaway which I think was deliberate cause she was jealous and another in a train station which she was white but said she was having a bad day. Only two times I can think this happened to me in London in my life.

I’d imagine it’s more that in a busy crowded area all women are more likely to bump into other women than risk brushing up against a man who’d respond god only knows how.

I haven't noticed it but can believe it. There's taking up space, and there's being invisible. Female couple walking together? Especially middle aged? Everyone walks right through you.

Those women have a huge sense of entitlement. I'd imagine living and working in London would encourage the ladies to become more brash, especially if living well, money, status, busy city life = Dragon lady getting free A to B.

Next time, bring a cane, hit their ankles as they pass.

I don't think I'd manage London life.

Propogating eternal victimhood?! My God, what a foul anti semitic and hate filled statement because decent people still feel compassion for the deaths and torture of millions of Jews for the sole reason that they were Jewish.

Vile.

All correct, and am very proud that Great Britain put so much money and effort into stopping the slave trade. Sadly, the slave trade is continued today by other countries, but thankfully not in the UK, Europe, America or Australia.

Sadly, Nigeria and India amongst other countries continue the slave trade.

Racism against blacks doesn't exist.

😒🙄 that's all I've got to say

‘The slave trade isn’t a black vs white issue’? What kind of mad mental gymnastics is this?

In a society where white people are the majority and have historically held all the power, 100% yes. Is this all new to you?

I have found similar in London, but I am white. However, given that the people in question were not looking where they were going, I could have been any race for all they knew.

I’m not trying to be difficult - it’s a genuine question- but would you divide the men into white men and non-white men too?

Addressing the OP @AliceMaforethought - I’m very interested in your post and will take it on board.

I have a system in my head for how I think it should go in situations where people could collide-

1. the person who would come off better in the case of a collision should step aside - so non disabled step aside for disabled, young adults for older, men for women etc
2. if the “collision damage” factor is equal, the person with the greater privilege in society should step aside.

So the above would mean that a white woman stepped aside for a black woman (all else being equal) but held her line again all men unless disabled or elderly.

It does involve quite a quick mental calculation though! You can’t possibly make a completely accurate assessment of privilege - I wouldn’t be able to factor in someone’s sexuality in all cases - but it’s just meant to be a rough guide!