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To book holiday without friend

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TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 09:54

Have a bit of a dilemma here and don’t know if I’m being unreasonable or not…

Group of 4 friends. 3 of us are what you would call ‘high earners’ whilst our 4th friend works a more ‘hobby’ job for want of a better term and only earns about £45/50k a year.

Last year, we’d all agreed on a city break destination but the proposed hotel was vetoed by our friend due to being too costly, so we went to an alternative (which wasn’t great) at her request.

We are looking at going away again later this year. Early discussions between two of us (not the 4th friend). We really want to stay somewhere more luxurious but know our friend won’t be able to afford it.

Out of the options below, what do you think is most appropriate? We give our friend the option of joining, knowing full well she can’t stay there and when she suggests an alternative, say no. Or book without her knowledge and hope she doesn’t find out about it? We don’t really post on social media so that’s not an issue.

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SummerHouse · 07/08/2025 12:08

What sort of cost are we talking OP?

Essential info for those who (like me) are living vicariously through this thread, and don't really know what a concierge would even do.

I appreciate you can't say where as it would be too outing.

Nosleepforthismum · 07/08/2025 12:08

Honestly OP, you are not coming across well here. DH and I earn significantly more than a lot of our friends and if we know an event/meal/break is likely to be out of their budget we will always cover the cost or at least, the bulk of the cost and consider it a privilege to be able to afford to do so rather than a punishment for earning well 🙄

Igneococcus · 07/08/2025 12:06

I'm just amazed you have three friends who want to go on holiday with you.

Poobs2022 · 07/08/2025 12:06

Your friend might also have some savings that she would want to use for the luxury trip or she might be able to save up for it. You just don't know. She also might say no thanks but to not give her the option to be in or out is wrong and not very friendly of you. I went years and years of my 20's having to say no to things friends were doing because I'd been made redundant and was in a ridiculously low paying admin job (that I took because there was nothing else) but I was always invited and given the option to attend or not. I'd have been hurt to not have been asked even if I said no!

thebraveryofbeingoutofrange · 07/08/2025 12:05

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 09:58

Sorry it’s quite outing so I can’t say

That’s a shame, I could do with a bit of pin money 🤣

I thought only men had hobbies that were outing.

1abovethead · 07/08/2025 12:04

but has severely limiting earning potential

The more you speak, the worse it gets. 50k is 'severely limited' earning potential.

🙄

theemmadilemma · 07/08/2025 12:04

Waits for OP to decide everyone must be jealous. 😑

Cheesetoastiees · 07/08/2025 12:03

Such a bizarre post. You can go on any holiday you choose but your snobbery is shining through here and you clearly do look down on her job from your posts ‘hobby job’ and a lack of being able to progress.
Newsflash, 40/50k is a good salary and being passionate and hard working are just as important as being a high earner.
You can go on your holiday without her but realistically you could find accommodation to suit all. Your choosing something very luxurious over a friendship and going away without her will probably set a precedent of that in the future.
Btw I would always choose having my friends with me rather than the accommodation.

theemmadilemma · 07/08/2025 12:03

How to come across like a cunt in your OP. 😂

Your poor friend earning her tiny wee salary at her hobby job. Just tell her she's not of your class so you're going on a holiday she can't afford without her.

Enigma53 · 07/08/2025 12:02

Nah, this is a wind up.
“ Hobby job” 🤣 Are you sure it’s not just “fun money” ?

lazyarse123 · 07/08/2025 12:02

Painrelief · 07/08/2025 09:59

Maybe you should do the 4th friend a favour and let her find nicer friends …

jeez you sound stuck up !!! ONLY 45/50k !!!

I bet the hotel last year was lovely .. it’s just you’re a snob maybe ?

This. Calling someone's job "a hobby" is pretty disgusting.

CircusofPuffins · 07/08/2025 12:02

Seems like OP has done a runner. Shame, I was looking forward to seeing just how much deeper she could dig this hole for herself.

Perhaps she's too busy being 'successful'?

1abovethead · 07/08/2025 12:01

YABU for saying 'only' earns 45-50k and describing a job that pays that well as a hobby.

Slobbert · 07/08/2025 12:01

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 10:11

Put like that I can definitely see your point. I think we are going to have to tell her and give her the choice of joining but stand firm on where we’d like to go.

Always be transparent. Maybe suggests she check into a cheaper hotel in the city and she can then join you all on the daytime stuff.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 07/08/2025 12:00

New thread, ‘I have three unbelievably snobby friends who treat what I do for a living as a hobby and generally talk down to me, they keep asking me to go on holiday with them to really tacky, expensive hotels, and I’ve been telling them I can’t afford it in order to avoid going, but should I just be honest with them and tell them the friendship has run its course?’

WonderfulWoman · 07/08/2025 12:00

4th friend works a more ‘hobby’ job for want of a better term and only earns about £45/50k a year.

🤣🤣🤣

I wish I was as thick as you.

LittleBitofBread · 07/08/2025 11:59

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 10:04

Not at all, the hotel reviews from around the time we went back up our experience too.

Beige food, loud building work on site, no concierge service to name a few issues.

  • You can/want to eat out, surely?
  • The loud building work was presumably a one-off
  • Can't you do without a concierge service?!

Maybe I'm the odd one out here, but I'd rather keep the hotel/trip a bit cheaper if it meant I could go with all of my friends.
I definitely wouldn't book it behind her back. That is obviously going to come out at some point.

Is self-catering via Airbnb or wherever a possibility? You can get very nice places for much less than a hotel.

Irritatediron · 07/08/2025 11:59

Only on MN would 45-50k be hobby level salary !!! Youre all in the top 1% going off UK figures. Wtf !!!

Harriethulas · 07/08/2025 11:58

Crikeyyy OP I am cringing. I’m glad to say (despite being a high earner) that we don’t all see our friendships this way and we do indeed have humility and self-awareness. A secret holiday behind her back?? Yuck. Do better.

Bunnycat101 · 07/08/2025 11:58

You’re not really getting the point that people are making that she is earning well despite you being dismissive of her role and earning potential. Lots of people in the country would love to be earning the salary you are demeaning as a ‘hobby job’. That might apply if she was earning £4k but not at £40k.

To the point at hand- if you’re doing a city break do you have to stay in the same hotel. You could be open about destination but say this time round everyone wants to book their own accommodation to suit preferences.

Bonniebonnie · 07/08/2025 11:58

Bluntly OP, you sound like a complete dick.

housethatbuiltme · 07/08/2025 11:57

Ah only mumsnet, where a single person income bigger than that which supports a family of 5 is described as just 'hobby' money.

GingerKombucha · 07/08/2025 11:57

You sound pretty mean. I'm in the same financial position - available options that I've used are (1) just stay at a hotel everyone can afford, it's the company that matters (2) part fund it for your friend who can't afford - you're not 'being penalised', you're being kind (3) if friend is too proud to take money or part payment - agree to dates, just book a room for her and say you got a great offer, used points etc (I use the 'points' excuse a lot), so it's only [insert amount she can afford] (4) go to a hotel a bit more than she can afford but pay for absolutely everything out there so it ends up being a pretty cheap holiday for your friend.

SomethingInnocuousForNow · 07/08/2025 11:55

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 10:05

I don’t think covering some of the costs will work - it will set a precedent for future trips, and it feels a bit like we are being penalised for having successful careers.

😂

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 07/08/2025 11:55

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 10:04

Not at all, the hotel reviews from around the time we went back up our experience too.

Beige food, loud building work on site, no concierge service to name a few issues.

‘no concierge service to name a few issues’ oh no, how on earth did you manage with no concierge service?! Does that mean you had to order your own taxis and book your own restaurants 😱 how do you even consider this woman a friend?