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TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 09:54

Have a bit of a dilemma here and don’t know if I’m being unreasonable or not…

Group of 4 friends. 3 of us are what you would call ‘high earners’ whilst our 4th friend works a more ‘hobby’ job for want of a better term and only earns about £45/50k a year.

Last year, we’d all agreed on a city break destination but the proposed hotel was vetoed by our friend due to being too costly, so we went to an alternative (which wasn’t great) at her request.

We are looking at going away again later this year. Early discussions between two of us (not the 4th friend). We really want to stay somewhere more luxurious but know our friend won’t be able to afford it.

Out of the options below, what do you think is most appropriate? We give our friend the option of joining, knowing full well she can’t stay there and when she suggests an alternative, say no. Or book without her knowledge and hope she doesn’t find out about it? We don’t really post on social media so that’s not an issue.

OP posts:
goldenquestion · 07/08/2025 21:10

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 19:45

Some people enjoy luxurious holidays, what's the problem with that? Her friend doesn't have to join every holiday, some she will be able to afford and some she won't. I really don't see the issue here and why either side should have to be in a position where they resent the other.

Edited

The issue is the OP is a huge snob and assuming that her poor mate who only pisses about doing hobby jobs and scrapes by on £50k a year won’t be able to afford to come and so rather than just ask her and let her make a decision, she is considering organising a trip with the rich friends and not telling her.

Account734 · 07/08/2025 20:48

Hobby job at only 45/50k. You sound out of touch and quite awful.

Squishymallows · 07/08/2025 20:37

I WISH I earned £50k a year. That would be amazing.

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 20:36

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 19:45

Some people enjoy luxurious holidays, what's the problem with that? Her friend doesn't have to join every holiday, some she will be able to afford and some she won't. I really don't see the issue here and why either side should have to be in a position where they resent the other.

Edited

Maybe because the OP belittled her friends 50k a year salary. Stuck up snob. Particularly as so many people in the UK are are struggling to feed themselves or heat their homes. Honestly - I've been on holidays where I have had fantastic weather and a great holiday both abroad and in the UK really cheaply. People don't need to spend 3k in 4 days to have a good time. That's a side issue. It's the fact they couldn't be bothered to tell their friend they were going on holiday without her because she's too "poor"

ChildFreeAndOhSoHappy · 07/08/2025 19:45

Elephant788 · 07/08/2025 19:42

No concierge service! Stuck up is the only words coming to mind! Ffs
Youre not a good 'friend' am surprised you even consider yourself that, Jesus!🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

Some people enjoy luxurious holidays, what's the problem with that? Her friend doesn't have to join every holiday, some she will be able to afford and some she won't. I really don't see the issue here and why either side should have to be in a position where they resent the other.

Elephant788 · 07/08/2025 19:42

No concierge service! Stuck up is the only words coming to mind! Ffs
Youre not a good 'friend' am surprised you even consider yourself that, Jesus!🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 19:34

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:32

You're getting on my every last nerve. I won't be responding to you again.

Relax, it’s only mumsnet.

But fair enough 😊

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:32

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 19:31

So then they accommodated her last year when she vetoed their preferences. Why shouldn’t they have the type of holiday they want this year?

You're getting on my every last nerve. I won't be responding to you again.

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 19:31

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:19

Nowhere in the original post does it say that they've constantly been accommodating this friend. They said it was one holiday last year

So then they accommodated her last year when she vetoed their preferences. Why shouldn’t they have the type of holiday they want this year?

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:19

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 17:44

Oh please. As if it isn’t entitled to think your friends shouldn’t be able to go and enjoy a holiday because you can’t afford it.

Op and her friends been very inclusive of her by going on holidays they wouldn’t have chosen for themselves. They want one holiday according to their preferences, which is hardly outrageous.

Nowhere in the original post does it say that they've constantly been accommodating this friend. They said it was one holiday last year

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 19:14

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 17:30

Just as you don’t need to take into account your reality if you post about having a dilemma, she doesn’t need to take into account yours.

This type of holiday isn’t expensive for OP, or something she would struggle affording. In fact, it may be very reasonably priced for the level of service she would be getting. She doesn’t have to call it expensive because you do.

I don't really care what she does or doesn't need to take into account. I'm not the only person who thinks 3 grand for a 4 night holiday is completely ridiculous - maybe go and quote everything they say

HisNibs · 07/08/2025 18:34

It doesn't really matter which option you go with.

"Or book without her knowledge and hope she doesn’t find out about it?"
Hope she doesn't find out? Who needs enemies with friends like you, huh?

Clearly, friend 4 is far too poor to be part of your group so why don't you do her a favour and cut her loose so she can find nicer friends?

Notsosure1 · 07/08/2025 18:18

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 16:09

It’s not outrageously expensive at all. No more than £3,000 each for flights and hotel. Which for a luxury holiday is brilliant value.

Let me guess, it’s an overnighter 😂

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 17:44

Createausername1970 · 07/08/2025 17:17

I haven't got past the OPs first few updates, but this has to be one of the most entitled threads on here.

OMG OP, your friend needs nicer friends.

I have a lovely friend who likes to do things that I can't really afford. We have a compromise, she generally pays for the accommodation and any tickets etc, and I pay for our meals and alcohol bill. She is happy she has company she likes and I am happy to be contributing in a way I can afford

It's not hard to sort it out between you in a non-judgy way.

Oh please. As if it isn’t entitled to think your friends shouldn’t be able to go and enjoy a holiday because you can’t afford it.

Op and her friends been very inclusive of her by going on holidays they wouldn’t have chosen for themselves. They want one holiday according to their preferences, which is hardly outrageous.

Winterwanderings · 07/08/2025 17:31

Haha, yes teacher here too, looking forward to getting back to my “hobby job” after the holidays. 🤣

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 17:30

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 17:00

I'm out of touch with her reality because I don't earn 100k plus a year - that doesn't mean a four night break for 3k isn't expensive.

Just as you don’t need to take into account your reality if you post about having a dilemma, she doesn’t need to take into account yours.

This type of holiday isn’t expensive for OP, or something she would struggle affording. In fact, it may be very reasonably priced for the level of service she would be getting. She doesn’t have to call it expensive because you do.

Happyhettie · 07/08/2025 17:22

Clementina49er · 07/08/2025 15:31

Flippin' heck, I'm a teacher and I don't earn "45/50k" - mine is definitely not a "hobby job"!

Not a hobby job but it’s not like we do actually do anything important.

We only work 9-3, have 13 weeks holiday a year and all we do is finger painting and let the children play in the sand / water.

And we’re quite happy to spend our own wages on resources and give up weekend and evening time for free for the love of the job. 🤪

Createausername1970 · 07/08/2025 17:17

I haven't got past the OPs first few updates, but this has to be one of the most entitled threads on here.

OMG OP, your friend needs nicer friends.

I have a lovely friend who likes to do things that I can't really afford. We have a compromise, she generally pays for the accommodation and any tickets etc, and I pay for our meals and alcohol bill. She is happy she has company she likes and I am happy to be contributing in a way I can afford

It's not hard to sort it out between you in a non-judgy way.

Winterwanderings · 07/08/2025 17:11

It’s down to priorities really. I can stay in swishy expensive places but a lot of my friends can’t. I prefer their company and value their friendships more than I want luxury. You obviously don’t value your friend, which is sad for her.

dancethedancetoday · 07/08/2025 17:09

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Active13 · 07/08/2025 17:06

TarzanGirl · 07/08/2025 09:54

Have a bit of a dilemma here and don’t know if I’m being unreasonable or not…

Group of 4 friends. 3 of us are what you would call ‘high earners’ whilst our 4th friend works a more ‘hobby’ job for want of a better term and only earns about £45/50k a year.

Last year, we’d all agreed on a city break destination but the proposed hotel was vetoed by our friend due to being too costly, so we went to an alternative (which wasn’t great) at her request.

We are looking at going away again later this year. Early discussions between two of us (not the 4th friend). We really want to stay somewhere more luxurious but know our friend won’t be able to afford it.

Out of the options below, what do you think is most appropriate? We give our friend the option of joining, knowing full well she can’t stay there and when she suggests an alternative, say no. Or book without her knowledge and hope she doesn’t find out about it? We don’t really post on social media so that’s not an issue.

This post can't be for real.....

  • A friend 'only' earns 50k... disrespectful & elitist.
  • A successful career is not only based on earnings.
  • An end of year 'blow off' ...... 4 night break costing £3,000!

Show your 'friend' your posts & I'm sure she will make up her own mind about whether she wants to see you again let alone pay 3 grand to join you on a 4 night break.

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 17:00

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 16:36

Well there you go - it’s relative.

OP may be out of touch with your reality, but then you’re out of touch with OP’s. Hers may not be one widely shared, but it doesn’t need to be in order to constitute reality.

I'm out of touch with her reality because I don't earn 100k plus a year - that doesn't mean a four night break for 3k isn't expensive.

InterIgnis · 07/08/2025 16:36

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 16:29

I think it is

Well there you go - it’s relative.

OP may be out of touch with your reality, but then you’re out of touch with OP’s. Hers may not be one widely shared, but it doesn’t need to be in order to constitute reality.

CheekyCherryColaCandy · 07/08/2025 16:32

Ok. That's fine. But what you think isn't what it objectively is it

Roobarbtwo · 07/08/2025 16:29

CheekyCherryColaCandy · 07/08/2025 16:27

It's really not.

I think it is