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To think Corbyn despises Britain?

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JamesMacGill · 06/08/2025 23:19

When I was a bit more ‘sixth form politics’ I used to really like Jeremy Corbyn, thought he was a genuine alternative to fatcats, warmongers and austerity enthusiasts.

Now I’ve grown up a little but still follow him on social media. I’ve become increasingly concerned about his almost obsessive coverage of Gaza, to the exclusion of almost everything else that affects Britain. He posts repeatedly commemorating virtually every event where he perceives Britain to have been an oppressor, while rarely acknowledging the reverse.

Today it’s Hiroshima, and while I don’t think anyone is going to delight in the deaths of civilians regardless of whether they were an ally or not, it just feels at this stage that he actively dislikes Britain and exclusively sympathises with anyone who was/is against us. As usual he is very clear in naming America as the nuke dropping aggressor, yet on 7/7 his post only referenced ‘bombings’ and how ‘all faiths came together’. No mention of the aggressors there, or even that it was an act of terrorism.

I think he has gone far beyond simply viewing things through a global, objective lens and the thought of him becoming PM (unlikely but you never know) brings me out in a cold sweat.

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TinyIsMyNewt · 07/08/2025 02:14

I like about 90% of Corbyn's politics, but would have major concerns on defence and foreign policy, and the antisemitism is disqualifying in my book.

Starsabovemee · 07/08/2025 02:08

ArcheryAnnie · 07/08/2025 01:16

I used to rate Corbyn, but after working for quite some time in an environment which was Corbyn-adjacent, I no longer do. He's all posturing, performative stances with nothing behind it at all. He's never really grown beyond his own sixth-form politics, and is one of those backbenchers who quite enjoys knowing he can say anything he likes as he will never have to actually deliver anything.

The one time he did have a measure of power and influence, as leader if the Labour Party he got nothing of real value done. The thing I find impossible to forgive, however, is his dishonesty - he was a Leaver, but as leader was never properly honest about it, but instead just continually sabotaged the Labour Remainers. I considered this cowardly and unprincipled.

His current stance on women is also the same shallow, posturing, performative nonsense, with no substance behind it.

I'm a left-wing feminist who is interested in results. I've got no time at all for Corbyn.

Genuinely - please explain how he "sabotaged" the remainers? Given that Starmer the snake stated that there would be a second referendum knowing full well it would tank Labour's chances in GE2019 (which it did). How you can say Corbyn was dishonest given that I honestly don't know.

Corbyn was put in an impossible situation over Brexit. The huge mistake he made was not sticking to his Leave principles for wanting to leave the EU. There were some very good left wing arguments for LEXIT which the general public never heard or saw, instead everyone frothed at the mouth over the thought of leaving the EU based on what they had seen or read written by some middle class brunch eating remainer.

Newstove · 07/08/2025 01:39

MiloMinderbinder925 · 07/08/2025 00:37

I believe you were sixth form politics but don't believe you were left wing. Apparently over 600k have expressed interest in his new party and it's a refreshing antidote to the right wing monotony.

Checklist:

Magic Grandpa
Jezbollah
Terrorist
Old
Sixth form politics
Antisemite
Open borders
Far left

Let me know if I've missed one.💤

The OP didn't mention anti-semitism, open borders, support for Hezbollah etc.

I can see that it's exciting that JC is agaon ready to save the country (or a country at least), but can't you at least read the OP before listing the clichés you expected it to include.

As if anyone could accuse Jeremy Corbyn of anti-semitism!

ArcheryAnnie · 07/08/2025 01:38

Just to add: on the OP's original question of whether Corbyn "hates Britain", I don't know, and I don't think it's a particularly useful question, anyway. What does "hating Britain" look like? What does the OP mean by this?

Like most politicians, I can heartily agree with some of Corbyn's policies and positions, and vehemently disagree with some others of his (not least his habit of cosying up to pretty reprehensible people). But what I find insufferable about him is the fundamentally unprincipled, slippery way he conducts himself. For example, when asked as leader to condemn antisemitism in the party - a fairly straightforward ask - he just couldn't bring himself to be plain about it, but instead took the "all lives matter" approach, which I thought weaselly and hypocritical.

I can't bear any sort of tub-thumping populism from politicians more interested in being cheered than in being honest - which is also why I can't bear the likes of Nigel Farage, either - and the prospect of a race to the bottom between Corbyn and Farage is profoundly depressing.

Newstove · 07/08/2025 01:31

@JHound 'Also the 7/7 bombers were Britons so why would he need to spell that out'.

I've never come across this view before - do you think that IRA bombers should have just been described as UK nationals, as born in Northern Ireland, so no need to explain why they were planting bombs?

Perhaps you're not identifying the militant Islamicist identity and aims of the terrorists to starve them publicity for their cause.

ArcheryAnnie · 07/08/2025 01:16

I used to rate Corbyn, but after working for quite some time in an environment which was Corbyn-adjacent, I no longer do. He's all posturing, performative stances with nothing behind it at all. He's never really grown beyond his own sixth-form politics, and is one of those backbenchers who quite enjoys knowing he can say anything he likes as he will never have to actually deliver anything.

The one time he did have a measure of power and influence, as leader if the Labour Party he got nothing of real value done. The thing I find impossible to forgive, however, is his dishonesty - he was a Leaver, but as leader was never properly honest about it, but instead just continually sabotaged the Labour Remainers. I considered this cowardly and unprincipled.

His current stance on women is also the same shallow, posturing, performative nonsense, with no substance behind it.

I'm a left-wing feminist who is interested in results. I've got no time at all for Corbyn.

GarlicLitre · 07/08/2025 01:09

pinotnow · 07/08/2025 00:52

I'd take open borders off the list as far as Corbyn is concerned.

He certainly seems determined to ensure this Labour government fails so if you believe, as I do, that them failing would be bad for Britain then you're not being unreasonable, OP.

Awful egotistical narcissistic person.

Agree. I supported him first time round. I was an idiot - or, being kinder to myself, hadn't yet realised what a self-worshipping liability he is.

Anyway, 'his' Labour chucked me out for believing women are female. I was already on my way out due to his anti-EU sentiment, they just sped up what was a huge decision for me at the time.

Starsabovemee · 07/08/2025 01:01

pinotnow · 07/08/2025 00:52

I'd take open borders off the list as far as Corbyn is concerned.

He certainly seems determined to ensure this Labour government fails so if you believe, as I do, that them failing would be bad for Britain then you're not being unreasonable, OP.

Awful egotistical narcissistic person.

He certainly seems determined to ensure this Labour government fails so if you believe, as I do, that them failing would be bad for Britain then you're not being unreasonable, OP

Oh they're doing a grand job of that themselves

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/08/2025 01:00

I’ve signed up.

Ohhhhhh Jeremee Corbyn.

So refreshing to have some around from the proper left wing.

Votef Labour all my life but Corbyn may well receive my next vote.

pinotnow · 07/08/2025 00:52

I'd take open borders off the list as far as Corbyn is concerned.

He certainly seems determined to ensure this Labour government fails so if you believe, as I do, that them failing would be bad for Britain then you're not being unreasonable, OP.

Awful egotistical narcissistic person.

JHound · 07/08/2025 00:50

And what on earth is wrong with commemorating Hiroshima and the lives lost as well as impacted by the nuclear fallout?

JHound · 07/08/2025 00:46

No, I don’t think he hates Britain. I think he has a balanced world view and isn’t the kind of person who think “my country, right or wrong”.

Also the 7/7 bombers were Britons so why would he need to spell that out?

If the Hiroshima bombing was carried out by Japanese men I doubt he would have felt the need to mention that.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 07/08/2025 00:37

I believe you were sixth form politics but don't believe you were left wing. Apparently over 600k have expressed interest in his new party and it's a refreshing antidote to the right wing monotony.

Checklist:

Magic Grandpa
Jezbollah
Terrorist
Old
Sixth form politics
Antisemite
Open borders
Far left

Let me know if I've missed one.💤