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To think Corbyn despises Britain?

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JamesMacGill · 06/08/2025 23:19

When I was a bit more ‘sixth form politics’ I used to really like Jeremy Corbyn, thought he was a genuine alternative to fatcats, warmongers and austerity enthusiasts.

Now I’ve grown up a little but still follow him on social media. I’ve become increasingly concerned about his almost obsessive coverage of Gaza, to the exclusion of almost everything else that affects Britain. He posts repeatedly commemorating virtually every event where he perceives Britain to have been an oppressor, while rarely acknowledging the reverse.

Today it’s Hiroshima, and while I don’t think anyone is going to delight in the deaths of civilians regardless of whether they were an ally or not, it just feels at this stage that he actively dislikes Britain and exclusively sympathises with anyone who was/is against us. As usual he is very clear in naming America as the nuke dropping aggressor, yet on 7/7 his post only referenced ‘bombings’ and how ‘all faiths came together’. No mention of the aggressors there, or even that it was an act of terrorism.

I think he has gone far beyond simply viewing things through a global, objective lens and the thought of him becoming PM (unlikely but you never know) brings me out in a cold sweat.

AIBU?

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SharonEllis · 07/08/2025 10:14

ArcheryAnnie · 07/08/2025 10:12

I agree with you about the "despises Britain" thing, but disagree with you about "decent". What do you think about his dishonesty re Brexit, and his equivocation re comdeming antisemitism?

That's putting it mildly. He is thoroughly dishonest.

ArcheryAnnie · 07/08/2025 10:12

zerofeeling · 07/08/2025 10:00

No, absolutely no evidence that he 'despises' Britain he comes across as a generally decent idealistic person who wants a fairer society. The Tories have shown far more contempt for Britain.

I agree with you about the "despises Britain" thing, but disagree with you about "decent". What do you think about his dishonesty re Brexit, and his equivocation re comdeming antisemitism?

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 07/08/2025 10:11

ArcheryAnnie · 07/08/2025 01:16

I used to rate Corbyn, but after working for quite some time in an environment which was Corbyn-adjacent, I no longer do. He's all posturing, performative stances with nothing behind it at all. He's never really grown beyond his own sixth-form politics, and is one of those backbenchers who quite enjoys knowing he can say anything he likes as he will never have to actually deliver anything.

The one time he did have a measure of power and influence, as leader if the Labour Party he got nothing of real value done. The thing I find impossible to forgive, however, is his dishonesty - he was a Leaver, but as leader was never properly honest about it, but instead just continually sabotaged the Labour Remainers. I considered this cowardly and unprincipled.

His current stance on women is also the same shallow, posturing, performative nonsense, with no substance behind it.

I'm a left-wing feminist who is interested in results. I've got no time at all for Corbyn.

He used to remind me of people who stood outside our student union building at lunchtime (late 60s) dishing out Marxist Society leaflets.

I don’t think he ever actually wanted to be PM. Much easier sitting on the opposite benches criticising whatever the Other Lot were doing, rather than putting his money where his mouth is (was).

Starsabovemee · 07/08/2025 10:09

baroqueandblue · 07/08/2025 09:16

Calm down ffs. Reform get in - blame Corbyn?! Have you heard yourself? The blame for that possible outcome lies at doors a million miles from Corbyn's and if you had even an ounce of honesty (rather than bagfuls of disingenuousness) you would admit that.

But you're the epitome of "Look! Corbyn!" so I won't be holding my breath.

🙌🙌🙌

This thread is the essence of “rent free”.

DancingInTheMoonlights · 07/08/2025 10:09

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 07/08/2025 01:00

I’ve signed up.

Ohhhhhh Jeremee Corbyn.

So refreshing to have some around from the proper left wing.

Votef Labour all my life but Corbyn may well receive my next vote.

Me too! 💪

JamesMacGill · 07/08/2025 10:06

MaMaMalenka · 07/08/2025 10:00

Of those 600k, I personally know five anti-Corbynites who registered under false "funny" identities, I doubt they are the only ones! So not really trustworthy data...

I’ve heard a lot are journalists etc

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JamesMacGill · 07/08/2025 10:06

I think he has spent so much time examining Britain’s ills of the past, and associating with people who are inherently anti-West, that it’s warped him into a place where his sympathy is exclusively for anyone who isn’t Britain. It’s like radicalisation, in a way.

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MaMaMalenka · 07/08/2025 10:00

MiloMinderbinder925 · 07/08/2025 00:37

I believe you were sixth form politics but don't believe you were left wing. Apparently over 600k have expressed interest in his new party and it's a refreshing antidote to the right wing monotony.

Checklist:

Magic Grandpa
Jezbollah
Terrorist
Old
Sixth form politics
Antisemite
Open borders
Far left

Let me know if I've missed one.💤

Of those 600k, I personally know five anti-Corbynites who registered under false "funny" identities, I doubt they are the only ones! So not really trustworthy data...

zerofeeling · 07/08/2025 10:00

No, absolutely no evidence that he 'despises' Britain he comes across as a generally decent idealistic person who wants a fairer society. The Tories have shown far more contempt for Britain.

Absentmindedsmile · 07/08/2025 09:55

‘What these loyalists really think is that the left should only ever be divided on their terms. That entitled and coercive logic has now had consequences.

A new leftwing party, risky and imperfect, could be here to stay. This time, it’s possible that our politics will never be quite the same again.’

Whether it’s Corbyn or a ‘comrade’ (🤮).

Yes Guardian journo. A sensible voice for a change. A clock’s right twice a day.

newposteronthewall · 07/08/2025 09:53

of course he doesn't hate britain, but I think Farage and Reform do.

EasternStandard · 07/08/2025 09:52

He’ll pick up some votes, including younger voters who will vote next time. I don’t agree with everything but if he speaks up on the small things such as allotments then good.

Swiftie1878 · 07/08/2025 09:52

His anti-semitism is writ large.
His misogyny is now almost as obvious.

Once you’ve got those clear in your head, it’s easier to stop listening to anything else he has to say. He’s an absolute arse.

SharonEllis · 07/08/2025 09:51

JamesMacGill · 07/08/2025 09:44

I agree Blossom but do you think the fact Corbyn has an almost cult like following changes things slightly?

I think it turns a lot of people off!

Alexandra2001 · 07/08/2025 09:50

Somerford · 07/08/2025 09:45

Ah yes. Mohammad Sidique Khan, Sherzad Tanweer, Hasib Hussain and Jamaican born muslim convert Germaine Lindsay. As British as Big Ben or Axel Rudakubana.

Must remember to thank their parents for culturally enriching us.

Does a foreign sounding name rule out being British?

I didn't know that.

Perhaps you apply this to the previous and current Con leaders......

Whatafustercluck · 07/08/2025 09:48

I'm not sure that I fall for the rhetoric that he hates Britain. But there's only one person I blame almost equally to Cameron for the Brexit shit show that unfolded - and that's Corbyn. I can see how he comes across as an obsessive as far as foreign affairs is concerned.

I've always been a Labour voter, never liked Corbyn though and have no intention of joining his party. I'm increasingly unsettled, though, by the direction the Labour government is taking. I understand that it was never going to be lollipops and rainbows in the first term, after the UK was ruined for 14 years. But I'm perplexed by policies such as selling off allotments. I mean, why? How much is it going to gain, and at what cost? It seems like a small issue, but a friend's mum lost her daughter a few years ago and having an allotment to focus on was the one thing that improved her mental health and likely prevented her suicide.

It all feels a bit like rearranging the deck chairs. The reality is that in 4 years, the UK faces the most problematic/ dangerous general election ever. A familiar story in some respects - the electorate dividing themselves to fall behind the least worst option. But at this time, I can't see how we will avoid a Reform government. At which point, I hope Corbyn will be satisfied with the catastrophic outcome because in a few years, he can look back and again blame the UK for everything that unfolds thereafter.

Alexandra2001 · 07/08/2025 09:48

JamesMacGill · 07/08/2025 09:26

I don’t want to derail but Kemi Badenoch is extremely impressive and my favourite by a country mile. However she’s tethered to the corpse of the Conservative Party so it’s very unlikely her talents will come to fruition. Which is a real shame as I think she’s got balls of steel and a very intelligent analytical mind.

I tried to like her but in all honesty, her policy of snipping from the side lines and having no policies is a mistake.

One reason why, despite a Labour Govt open goal, the Cons are so far behind the Govt in the polls and given a Starmer PM or a Kemi PM, she is by far, the least favoured.

Its not a derail at all, she is a party leader, as is Corbyn.

Perhaps she should join Reform? like many of her colleagues, very little to chose between the 2 parties now.

Absentmindedsmile · 07/08/2025 09:47

BIossomtoes · 07/08/2025 09:44

I have no idea what most of that post means. Splinter parties rarely last. I don’t see this one as being any different.

Ah, convenient ❤️

JamesMacGill · 07/08/2025 09:47

Somerford · 07/08/2025 09:45

Ah yes. Mohammad Sidique Khan, Sherzad Tanweer, Hasib Hussain and Jamaican born muslim convert Germaine Lindsay. As British as Big Ben or Axel Rudakubana.

Must remember to thank their parents for culturally enriching us.

My objection is to the fact he wouldn’t mention terrorism, Islamism, or any of the relevant drivers when discussing the bombings, but is more than happy to mention specifics when the West is the perpetrator.

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Somerford · 07/08/2025 09:45

LadyKenya · 07/08/2025 08:30

As usual he is very clear in naming America as the nuke dropping aggressor, yet on 7/7 his post only referenced ‘bombings’ and how ‘all faiths came together’. No mention of the aggressors there, or even that it was an act of terrorism.

Err, they were BRITISH.

Ah yes. Mohammad Sidique Khan, Sherzad Tanweer, Hasib Hussain and Jamaican born muslim convert Germaine Lindsay. As British as Big Ben or Axel Rudakubana.

Must remember to thank their parents for culturally enriching us.

JamesMacGill · 07/08/2025 09:44

BIossomtoes · 07/08/2025 09:44

I have no idea what most of that post means. Splinter parties rarely last. I don’t see this one as being any different.

I agree Blossom but do you think the fact Corbyn has an almost cult like following changes things slightly?

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BIossomtoes · 07/08/2025 09:44

Absentmindedsmile · 07/08/2025 09:40

You can try and change the direction of comments, but you know the truth.. can you handle the truth?

Chukka had too many skeletons in his closet, allegedly.

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I have no idea what most of that post means. Splinter parties rarely last. I don’t see this one as being any different.

Absentmindedsmile · 07/08/2025 09:40

BIossomtoes · 07/08/2025 09:36

Do you remember Change UK? Chuka Umunna was young and impressive, a great loss to the Labour Party. Who remembers him now?

You can try and change the direction of comments, but you know the truth.. can you handle the truth?

Chukka had too many skeletons in his closet, allegedly.

Ohthatsabitshit · 07/08/2025 09:39

I think if the choice is Kemi, Corbyn, or Kier I’d go Corbyn but I doubt he’ll run.

Absentmindedsmile · 07/08/2025 09:38

brunettemic · 07/08/2025 09:30

The guy is a complete moron. Failed to take a position on Brexit that swung a lot of voters to vote out and lost one of the easiest elections to win in history, leaving us in the mess that just got worse.

No we need to take it back further than that.

To another Labour party moron. The imbecile blood brother Ed Milliband.

Stabbed his competent and electable brother David M in the back in an attempt to be Labour party leader.

With the support of the trade unions (I was going to say equally moronic, but that they are not ££££), he then was elected as Labour party leader …this meant that Labour then lost the election (they would have won with Dave Milliband, the competent electable brother) to Cameron.

And we know what happened next.

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