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Why do families who are poor, have pets

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hostleg · 06/08/2025 12:58

They are expensive to feed, look after and to recover from illness and injuries.

Hear people who have a dog who swallowed something they shouldn’t have - £900 at vets. I’m sure these poor families don’t have £900.

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XenoBitch · 06/08/2025 15:08

samplesalequeen · 06/08/2025 15:07

I agree. There was a thread on here earlier where someone had £350 to last them, their massive husband, kids and dog for the month. You can’t afford pets if that’s how you’re living.

A lot of people survive on less money that that.

Pawparazzi · 06/08/2025 15:07

The more I hear about people like this who tell me I shouldn't have a dog, the more I love my dog and distrust people.

samplesalequeen · 06/08/2025 15:07

hostleg · 06/08/2025 12:58

They are expensive to feed, look after and to recover from illness and injuries.

Hear people who have a dog who swallowed something they shouldn’t have - £900 at vets. I’m sure these poor families don’t have £900.

I agree. There was a thread on here earlier where someone had £350 to last them, their massive husband, kids and dog for the month. You can’t afford pets if that’s how you’re living.

Velmy · 06/08/2025 15:07

Oreosareawful · 06/08/2025 13:07

I'm sorry, but I disagree. Pets are a privilege, not a right.

Pets are a lifelong responsibility, and part of that responsibility is to ensure you can pay for their food, vets bills, emergencies etc. If you do not have insurance, you need to ensure you have the capital for a large unexpected expense.

Animals should not suffer because they are owned by people less well off.

So what happens if you buy a pup, your children raise it for five years so its part of the family, then your circumstances change massively through no fault of your own?

You can't always "ensure you have the capital for a large unexpected expense". Do you give the dog away? What do you tell your children? Or do you just try any make it work the best you can until you get back on your feet?

XenoBitch · 06/08/2025 15:06

JamesMacGill · 06/08/2025 15:04

I don’t think people are poor because they’ve been stupid, but if you have very limited money you should act accordingly rather than simply spending unwisely then saying it’s all fine because whatever you spent the money on should be a human right or available to everyone.

Poor people don't want to be told how to spend their money. Anyone is free to make crap decisions.

XenoBitch · 06/08/2025 15:05

MyFavouriteSpoon · 06/08/2025 15:01

Have you met guinea pigs? They are amazing. I have loads, I rescue them. They make me so happy every day. You should try it, you sound like you need cheering up!

I know a couple who rescue them too. They don't have kids, but dote on their guinea pigs.

JamesMacGill · 06/08/2025 15:04

XenoBitch · 06/08/2025 15:03

Yes, and several comments about poor people are poor because they made stupid decisions. Or any decision they make is stupid because they are poor.
Well off people can be fucking stupid too. It is nothing to do with what is in your bank account.

I don’t think people are poor because they’ve been stupid, but if you have very limited money you should act accordingly rather than simply spending unwisely then saying it’s all fine because whatever you spent the money on should be a human right or available to everyone.

XenoBitch · 06/08/2025 15:03

Shitwithsugar · 06/08/2025 15:00

What a horrible thread.
Are the poor not allowed to drink/eat/buy anything that YOU DON'T APPROVE OFF.
Each person/families situation is different.
Maybe they were 'rich' when getting the pet.
Maybe they took the pet in as the owner (family member) had died.
Or just maybe having something that gives them love with no judgement.
There are charities that will help.
Otherwise let's euthanasie all the animals that 'poor' people have, also the animals waiting for a new owner.

Yes, and several comments about poor people are poor because they made stupid decisions. Or any decision they make is stupid because they are poor.
Well off people can be fucking stupid too. It is nothing to do with what is in your bank account.

MyFavouriteSpoon · 06/08/2025 15:01

Augustus40 · 06/08/2025 14:49

I have often wondered eg why benefit claimants have pets. I guess it is to while away the boredom of enduring too much time on their own at home.

Though why grown adults have guinea pigs and the like is ridiculous but as long as they are looked after properly each to their own. Though for the benefit of children is perfectly understandable.

Have you met guinea pigs? They are amazing. I have loads, I rescue them. They make me so happy every day. You should try it, you sound like you need cheering up!

ArabellaScott · 06/08/2025 15:00

Are you making a modest proposal, OP?

Shitwithsugar · 06/08/2025 15:00

What a horrible thread.
Are the poor not allowed to drink/eat/buy anything that YOU DON'T APPROVE OFF.
Each person/families situation is different.
Maybe they were 'rich' when getting the pet.
Maybe they took the pet in as the owner (family member) had died.
Or just maybe having something that gives them love with no judgement.
There are charities that will help.
Otherwise let's euthanasie all the animals that 'poor' people have, also the animals waiting for a new owner.

MyFavouriteSpoon · 06/08/2025 14:59

I work in animal welfare and rescue. From experience, some technically "poor people" spend every spare penny they have on their animals and their animals are impeccably cared for. In comparison I've seen some horrific welfare in animals owned by people with money.

Unfortunately no one requires a licence or certificate to own an animal, and therefore people buy on a whim or don't think it through properly. Meaning us rescues have to pick up the pieces when the animal is inevitably given up or the person cannot afford vet bills because the very healthy kitten they bought is now a very old cat needing expensive treatment and they didn't put money aside and insurance no longer stretches to the cost.

I wish everyone would get pets neutered, and that people would think about how they can care for the animal properly for it's whole life. I couldn't care less how much they have as long as they care properly for their pet.

outerspacepotato · 06/08/2025 14:57

Why has vet care for a domestic pet gotten so expensive that a family who earns little can't even afford a family pet?

Private equity is buying up vet practices here and it's making having a pet unaffordable by driving up prices unless you can drop a grand every visit. Spaying/neutering a cat is a few hundred now.

The rich are getting richer.

ScholesPanda · 06/08/2025 14:55

For the same reason richer people have them. Poor people aren't a different species, they like being happy and have aspirations and needs and wants to.
I'm happy to support charities like the PDSA who help poorer people care for their pets. Yes, some poor people are dickheads for whom the pet is just the latest fad (just like some rich people). However, a lot are decent people who are disabled or chronically sick or just don't have the skills our economy values so don't earn much.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 06/08/2025 14:55

Saladbar · 06/08/2025 14:39

Having lived in the U.S. I wish this was true, vet bills are high not not US med bill high! But they are shocking and should be better regulated.

Hopefully before it gets to that level then!

XenoBitch · 06/08/2025 14:54

Augustus40 · 06/08/2025 14:49

I have often wondered eg why benefit claimants have pets. I guess it is to while away the boredom of enduring too much time on their own at home.

Though why grown adults have guinea pigs and the like is ridiculous but as long as they are looked after properly each to their own. Though for the benefit of children is perfectly understandable.

Many people on benefits work. They can have pets. And I had my pet long before I was on benefits.
Like a PP said, if your pet is fed and cared for, then the next best thing you can give them is time. What is the point of having a dog who is at a doggy day care all day when you are work... just so you can have a few hours with them on the evening. I don't see the point in that at all.

And what is wrong with adults having guinea pigs? No pets are "for kids".

Foundress · 06/08/2025 14:54

Womblingmerrily · 06/08/2025 13:17

Because people make bad decisions and in our society we buffer the consequences of those bad decisions, leading them to make further bad decisions.

Yep agreed that’s it in a nutshell really.

Branleuse · 06/08/2025 14:52

I just like them! Doesn't feel like a home without pets. I'd sooner get rid of the husband and kids! They're expensive too

Notoloasy · 06/08/2025 14:51

Get over yourself!

neverbeenskiing · 06/08/2025 14:51

My work regularly brings me into contact with people who keep getting pets, despite relying on help from social services, food banks and their children's schools to provide the basics for their children. I'm not talking about people who have unexpectedly fallen on hard times. I'm talking about families who have always been skint and will ask me for a Food Bank voucher or tell me they have no money to put credit on their electric and then, in the same breath, mention they're off to pick up a new puppy when they've already got multiple pets at home.

Why do they do it? Humans are complex, so the reasons will be many and varied. Yes, in an ideal world everyone would be financially responsible but it's not quite as straightforward as some on this thread make out.

It is fair to say that some of the families I work with simply don't think about the financial implications of their decisions, about pets or anything else. They've never learned how to budget, they've been in debt their whole adult lives, always robbing Peter to pay Paul. But they've never known any different and everyone around them is the same way, so to them that's just 'normal' life. There's often a level of denial about how far up shit creek they actually are, or blind optimism that "something will turn up", which is probably a necessary coping mechanism when you spend your whole life lurching from one financial crisis to the next.

But some of the parents I work with don't have the capacity to make financially prudent decisions through absolutely no fault of their own because of cognition and learning difficulties or Mental Health issues, or both. They often have little in the way of support and are socially isolated, so their longing for the love and companionship of animals is understandable, although in some cases they are not equipped to care for them properly.

This is purely anecdotal, but over the years I've noticed that the women I've worked with who keep having more babies despite struggling to cope (not just financially but emotionally and practically) often do the same with pets. The thing these women have in common is trauma. Not just a single traumatic event but years and years of trauma, often going back to their own childhoods. They have often experienced DA from multiple partners. I think it's something about trying to fill a void, feeling chronically empty.

I think its easy to say people who are living in poverty just need to make better choices, but that's a massive oversimplification of complex issues that in some cases have been entrenched for generations.

BustopherPonsonbyJones · 06/08/2025 14:50

CriticalOverthinking · 06/08/2025 14:29

Having kids is a want also, are we saying poor people shouldn’t have children because they can’t afford to feed and care for them or don’t have time.

That is a very good question. I think the right to a family life in a society that can (just about) afford to support those who can’t afford to provide for a child is acceptable. My opinion is that this should be for a maximum of one child to limit the cost to tax payers whilst not making being a parent the preserve of the rich - I am aware that some would argue that two…three…four children should be supported but I don’t! Owing a pet is different on many levels. The biological and societal need isn’t there, it is definitely a want. Considering whether you have enough time to look after children should be considered by rich and poor. You don’t have to have children and you don’t have to have pets.

Augustus40 · 06/08/2025 14:49

I have often wondered eg why benefit claimants have pets. I guess it is to while away the boredom of enduring too much time on their own at home.

Though why grown adults have guinea pigs and the like is ridiculous but as long as they are looked after properly each to their own. Though for the benefit of children is perfectly understandable.

jannier · 06/08/2025 14:46

Oreosareawful · 06/08/2025 13:07

I'm sorry, but I disagree. Pets are a privilege, not a right.

Pets are a lifelong responsibility, and part of that responsibility is to ensure you can pay for their food, vets bills, emergencies etc. If you do not have insurance, you need to ensure you have the capital for a large unexpected expense.

Animals should not suffer because they are owned by people less well off.

I guess you feel the same about children, don't ever have one incase you get sick can't work, you become unemployable, COVID takes your job away, AI replaces your industry etc.

waitingforpost · 06/08/2025 14:46

We have child benefits etc. So yeah it’s all a bit eugenics when we start talking about whether poor people should be having children or not

child benefit is not enough to raise a child on...

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