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to be feeling so upset over this?

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SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 10:25

Hi everyone, I just need to get something off my chest and maybe hear some outside perspectives because I’m really struggling with how I'm feeling at the moment.
For context, over the years we’ve been on a few family holidays that included myself, my husband and our kids, my in-laws (his parents), and my husband’s sister and her family. While we’ve generally had good times but it's not always been 'perfect'. My husband and his sister parent very differently, and that’s caused a few minor issues in the past. Things like me saying yes to our kids having an ice cream and her saying no to hers – which then leads to meltdowns and somehow becomes our fault. Nothing huge, just little clashes now and then.
However, the last holiday we went on together a few years ago ended badly. After a minor issue about splashing in the pool, my sister-in-law completely lost it with my husband in front of everyone – shouting that he’s a rubbish parent, that I’m lazy, and even saying her kids are scared of him. It was really awful. She accused him of “puffing out his chest trying to be the big man” which couldn’t have been further from the truth. He stood silently and in shock, didn’t react, and just walked away and was actually gutted about what she said and they way she said it in front of everyone. It felt to me like it came from years of built-up resentment she hadn’t addressed. I still get quite emotional thinking about it.
After that, both my husband and his sister (separately) told their parents that they wouldn’t be doing any more big family holidays – the tension was too much. We cancelled the holiday we had already booked for the following year. We didn’t speak at all for months, but eventually we got to a place where we could be civil again. Things are ok now but nothing like before.
Now on to my problem... my sister-in-law recently booked a family holiday and invited my in-laws who agreed to going with them. They’ve all gone away together – and we weren’t even considered. Not even a message or conversation to see how we felt about it. My MIL only told us after it was already booked. I know we said we wouldn’t do joint holidays again, and truthfully we probably would’ve said no anyway. But to not even be included in the discussion – especially after working to be civil again – feels like a slap in the face. I wouldn't even consider asking my in laws to come on a holiday with us because I wouldn't want to put them in an awkward situation and I wouldn't want to put my nieces and nephews in a position where they would feel excluded.
I’m heartbroken for my kids, who now see their grandparents and cousins on a holiday without them. It feels like such a massive step backwards for our family, like we’re being pushed out. I just can’t shake the feeling of being excluded and like we don’t matter. I've cried multiple times since they went last week.
Am I being unreasonable to be so upset about it or do I just need to get a grip?

OP posts:
IcyMint · 06/08/2025 11:18

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 10:33

Thank you for your perspective. I think I know I'm being ridiculous really - I just don't know why I'm feeling so upset over it. I guess because they are doing something that I wouldn't do??

But plenty of people do go on holiday with their parents and don’t go on holiday with people they resent and don’t get alomg with.

SIL hasn’t done anything wrong.

This is about their view of you and DH?

mondaytosunday · 06/08/2025 11:17

Personally couldn’t think of any worse holiday than going away with my in laws! Especially ones I’m just about on ‘civil’ terms.
I don’t understand why you are upset either. You don’t seem to enjoy it and the last outing was pretty unforgivable behaviour. Just plan a nice holiday for your own family and let them get on with it - so much less stress all around.

Twistedfirestarters · 06/08/2025 11:17

I have a close family with no fall outs. My brother has been away with my parents and this year I invited my parents away with us. Neither of us would have even thought about discussing it with each other first. Why would we?

DiscoBob · 06/08/2025 11:17

You don't want to go on holiday with them. She was vile to your husband and it wouldn't be fair on anyone to go again with them. Your kids wouldn't be able to have a nice time and neither would you.

You can't seriously expect his sister to never go on holiday again, with her own parents? It's you and your husband she's fallen out with.

So just forget it. You can't have things both ways. Go on your own holiday and invite the in laws if you want. But you can't force yourself onto their trip after you agreed it would never happen again.

Worktillate · 06/08/2025 11:16

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:12

I think what I wanted was just a conversation before it was booked (definitely not an invite!). Something along the lines of 'After last time we all agreed not to go on holiday as a big family but we are going to invite mum and dad away with us'. Perhaps it's the lack of conversation that's bothering me it was just booked. I thought we were in a place where we could at least talk about it but I do understand that they owe me nothing and I am being dramatic about it. I think it's just brought back to me that we are not close like we used to be and that's what has upset me

How do you see your response to that OP, after your SIL tells you they're taking PIL away? What would you actually have said that would have made it less awkward than them not mentioning it at all (which, tbf, shouldn't be at all awkward)? They don't need your permission or your blessing so I'm curious how you think the conversation would have concluded

Vaxtable · 06/08/2025 11:14

You agreed you would not all holiday again

just invite the in laws with you now w

Tippertapperfeet · 06/08/2025 11:13

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:04

Sorry i don' think i explained very well. I didn't want an invite - I just wanted our feelings to be considered but after reading these replies I can see I'm being unreasonable feeling hurt

What feelings of yours didn’t they consider?

you don’t want to go on holiday with your husbands sister and her family so they took that into account?

McSpoot · 06/08/2025 11:12

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:04

Sorry i don' think i explained very well. I didn't want an invite - I just wanted our feelings to be considered but after reading these replies I can see I'm being unreasonable feeling hurt

But your feelings were considered. You stated that your feelings were that you don't want to vacation with your SIL. They considered that and didn't invite you.

Your thoughts on how this should play out penalizes your PIL, which is unfair.

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:12

JMSA · 06/08/2025 10:35

But you had all agreed that you wouldn’t be doing any more big family holidays 🤷♀️
You were going to say no anyway, and it would have put you in an awkward position if they’d asked.
Sorry, but you’re being irrational and dramatic.

I think what I wanted was just a conversation before it was booked (definitely not an invite!). Something along the lines of 'After last time we all agreed not to go on holiday as a big family but we are going to invite mum and dad away with us'. Perhaps it's the lack of conversation that's bothering me it was just booked. I thought we were in a place where we could at least talk about it but I do understand that they owe me nothing and I am being dramatic about it. I think it's just brought back to me that we are not close like we used to be and that's what has upset me

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pinkdelight · 06/08/2025 11:09

Your feelings didn't need to be considered - they were known. You don't want to go on holiday with them (nor them with you) and indeed you even say now that you'd have declined. It's nuts to still want to be involved like it's some ongoing therapy session. They're going on their holiday and it's nothing to do with you. Whatever's upsetting you is something to do with your own sense of identity and control - being bothered by people doing things you wouldn't do is not solved by people pandering to it, you need to manage it yourself because it'll happen a lot. YABU.

PennywisePoundFoolish · 06/08/2025 11:08

YABU though I can understand how it's kicked up difficult feelings. You can invite your PILs on a holiday too. There's no reason for your PILs to forgo holidays with their DC and GC because the group dynamics don't work.

Winederlust · 06/08/2025 11:07

Look, feelings are feelings. We can't help how we feel. What we can do is take a step back and process why we feel a certain way. And the why can be reasonable or unreasonable.
In your case whilst i can understand why it might cause upset feelings, you know are being unreasonable.

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:07

WakeMeWhenCommonSenseReturns · 06/08/2025 10:34

Your husband can invite his parents on holiday with his family just as easily.

Why shouldn't your SIL go on holiday with her parents? Of course you shouldn't have been considered, SIL will not want a repeat of your last showdown. You are being civil to each other, that's as good as it's getting.

You are causing upset to your children. Why aren't you taking them on your own family holiday?

We are going on our own family holiday

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rainbowunicorn22 · 06/08/2025 11:06

you say that you are now civil, but that is just when you have to meet. Therefore, after the meltdown the last time you all went on holiday together then you cannot blame her for not wanting a repeat of that. do not make a big thing of it, the kids wil pick up on it, they can see their cousins anytime

DappledThings · 06/08/2025 11:06

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:04

Sorry i don' think i explained very well. I didn't want an invite - I just wanted our feelings to be considered but after reading these replies I can see I'm being unreasonable feeling hurt

In what way? Did you want a difficult conversation where SIL gave your brother a heads up that they were planning a holiday and not inviting you? Wouldn't that be way more awkward?

hmmimnotsurewhy · 06/08/2025 11:06

What feelings did you want to be considered? For them to sit you down and tell you the plans, and then ask you if it’s ok for them to go? Can you see how ridiculous that sounds?

rainbowstardrops · 06/08/2025 11:05

You are being totally unreasonable! Of course your SIL can go on holiday with her parents! It’s her and your brother/you that clashed, not the grandparents!
You’re making a drama over nothing and I wonder if that’s partly why your SIL told your DH he’s a shit parent and you’re lazy because you clearly have very different parenting styles/personalities.

Daleksatemyshed · 06/08/2025 11:04

YABU Op wouldn't it be worse if they'd discussed it with you only to tell you again why you weren't invited? Even if you went how could you relax waiting for the next big row?

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:04

waitingforpost · 06/08/2025 10:34

I think it's weird to want an invite when you said you didn't want to go. They may have thought asking you would have caused a row as you would be remembering the row. They told you and didn't keep it a secret.

Will you say, next time can you invite us?

Sorry i don' think i explained very well. I didn't want an invite - I just wanted our feelings to be considered but after reading these replies I can see I'm being unreasonable feeling hurt

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DappledThings · 06/08/2025 11:03

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:00

Thank you. Of course they can go on holiday I just didn't think they would. I hadn't even considered going seperately with the in laws to avoid any further upset and awkwardness. I think maybe it's not the holiday i'm upset about but actually just the whole fall out?

Why on earth not? It seems like your interpretation of an agreement that all 10 people won't go on holiday together again means that a subset of 6 people can't go on holiday together is very much in your own head.

pestowithwalnuts · 06/08/2025 11:02

TheDandyLion · 06/08/2025 10:33

You both said you weren't going to do the holiday again and you're upset because they've stayed true to their word?

Exactly this.
It's ridiculous that you're getting upset over this when you'd already agreed to do this every thing
Anyway..think of it this way..you'd be treading on eggshells and be worrying all the time that you were putting a foot wrong

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 11:00

Ablondiebutagoody · 06/08/2025 10:30

I don't see the big deal. Why can't your in-laws go on holiday with their daughter without you? Why can't you go with the in-laws on another occasion if you want to?

Thank you. Of course they can go on holiday I just didn't think they would. I hadn't even considered going seperately with the in laws to avoid any further upset and awkwardness. I think maybe it's not the holiday i'm upset about but actually just the whole fall out?

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MsMimi87 · 06/08/2025 10:58

But.. you both said separately no more family holiday why on earth would she then go back on that and ask you?
Would you ask her and her family? Why? You said no more family holidays

And why should parent in laws "miss out" if family holidays are their thing. Invite parent in laws on yours if you like just no sil!

Gouache · 06/08/2025 10:56

SunnyStrawberries · 06/08/2025 10:33

Thank you for your perspective. I think I know I'm being ridiculous really - I just don't know why I'm feeling so upset over it. I guess because they are doing something that I wouldn't do??

Why not? You didn’t want to be involved in more family holidays and said so — they’re just respecting that.

Hankunamatata · 06/08/2025 10:56

You told them you didnt want to do anymore family holidays but expect to be invited on family holiday?????
Your mad

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