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AIBU to think the judge’s comments in this case are completely inappropriate?

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Lizzie67384 · 05/08/2025 21:52

A male judge stated he thought the rapist was not a ‘dangerous man’ and that the 13 year old victim had ‘not suffered much degree of psychological harm’

Top Tory blasts 'soft' sentence for man who raped 13-year-old girl

The judge who sentenced Sorosh Amini, 21, said he did not consider the rapist to be a 'dangerous person.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14973083/Iranian-man-raped-girl-13-alleyway-jailed-just-SEVEN-years-judge-didnt-think-dangerous-person.html

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DreamTheMoors · 06/08/2025 01:25

A white college-age swim star raped an unconscious 18-yr-old girl (was she 17?) outside behind a dumpster in California years ago now. Two other young men came upon the scene and stopped him - luckily.
I believe the judge stated that the young man had his whole life to live and he came from a very good family and he didn’t want to ruin his life or swim career, so he sentenced him to 3 or 6 months or some ridiculously easy punishment.
It was all over the news and people were outraged.
It was sickening - and I think they ran the judge off the bench. It wasn’t in my area and it was years ago so I don’t remember the particulars.

Judges can be awful - because judges are people. And occasionally they forget why they are sitting up there in their black robes deciding exactly who gets to keep their head, and who loses theirs.

askmenow · 06/08/2025 01:18

It would give me the greatest pleasure to drive a Rusty nail through the perps balls.

Let’s see which judge dictates his “human rights”say he cannot be thereafter deported.

These animals should be thrown out of our country back to the hovels they came from.
That girl will live with the memory for the rest of her life.
I truly think our judges and police force are totally divorced from reality and corrupt.

We need a damned good clearout of the dross in our judicial system.

miraxxx · 06/08/2025 01:05

VaseofViolets · 05/08/2025 22:20

Are we not allowed to hate rapists? That’s news to me.

Not if they are brown or muslim or asylum seekers. Same old same thing that has been going on with grooming gangs phenomenon for decades.

VaseofViolets · 06/08/2025 01:04

ToWhitToWhoo · 06/08/2025 00:55

Agree, Too many judges are far too lenient on rapists, that's assuming the rapists ever get to court in the first place, which most don't.

But that doesn't mean it's all about immigration.

No one ever said it was all about immigration.

Two things can be true at the same time. Do we have a problem with British rapists? Yes. Do we have a significant problem in now adding to their number with foreign nationals from countries with different standards in the treatment of women and girls? Also yes.

ToWhitToWhoo · 06/08/2025 00:55

MrsSkylerWhite · 05/08/2025 23:23

That’s unfair. He is a rapist and the sentence was wrong. The overwhelming majority of immigrants aren’t.

Agree, Too many judges are far too lenient on rapists, that's assuming the rapists ever get to court in the first place, which most don't.

But that doesn't mean it's all about immigration.

JudgeJ · 06/08/2025 00:53

Lizzie67384 · 05/08/2025 22:37

Why would him being discriminated against be a defence for rape?

Because it's yet another excuse for lenient sentencing, the unproven allegation of 'discrimination'. What about the discrimination against the child he brutally raped? That's OK is it?

JHound · 06/08/2025 00:52

JamesMacGill · 06/08/2025 00:34

I would love to know what ‘what actually happened’ means - how much wiggle room is there for optics when a 13 year old is raped? What sort of stunning revelation would throw a different light over it all?

I think they are talking about the judge’s comments as reported by the DM. Not the attack against this young girl.

JHound · 06/08/2025 00:51

SummerEve · 05/08/2025 23:37

Don’t be stupid. It adds nothing to the debate.

Ok.

JHound · 06/08/2025 00:50

UninterestedBeing12 · 06/08/2025 00:31

Are you satisfied with the metropolitan police account of events? Are you happy with the detective inspectors account who led this investigation?

Because it's exactly the same as the daily mail report. Honest to god what's wrong with you.

That doesn’t contain details of the judge’s comments and the context within which they were made.

JudgeJ · 06/08/2025 00:46

Lizzie67384 · 05/08/2025 22:09

It’s a direct quote from the judge - also reported in the guardian.

I’m not sure what your media snobbery adds to the conversation?

There are those on here who avidly know all the Mail prints but do nothing but criticise it for not following their party line! The same people swallow every word from the Grauniad though which is just as biased but in the 'right' way.

JHound · 06/08/2025 00:45

Ponoka7 · 05/08/2025 23:36

Part of the problem with cases involving immigrant men is that they come from countries were rape isn't prosecuted. They also often murder, or cut out of the tongue of rape victims, so they can'tbe identified. There'sakso beencases were they'veblinded their victim. Children certainly aren't off limits.. So no-one can judge how dangerous these men are.

We live in a country where rape is not prosecuted - you do realise how low our conviction rates are right?

(What are the conviction rates in the countries you are referring to? And where do they typically murder / cut out the tongue of rape victims.)

Juststop2025 · 06/08/2025 00:42

ActiveLog · 06/08/2025 00:35

Sickening to think that despite such a heinous crime committed against a child, some people are apologists of it and feel sympathy for the perpetrating predator!

And it is their INSTANT go to. They've read nothing, researched nothing, just want to silence the victims and those who want the rapists to be properly sentenced.

JHound · 06/08/2025 00:42

Comtesse · 06/08/2025 00:02

What a reprehensible comment. Try reading @JaniceBattersby explanation - some facts would not go amiss…

Try reading more of the comments.

JHound · 06/08/2025 00:41

SummerEve · 05/08/2025 23:40

Alternatively we could use all that time, effort and money preventing crime instead.

We can do both.

ActiveLog · 06/08/2025 00:35

UninterestedBeing12 · 06/08/2025 00:31

Are you satisfied with the metropolitan police account of events? Are you happy with the detective inspectors account who led this investigation?

Because it's exactly the same as the daily mail report. Honest to god what's wrong with you.

Sickening to think that despite such a heinous crime committed against a child, some people are apologists of it and feel sympathy for the perpetrating predator!

JamesMacGill · 06/08/2025 00:34

I would love to know what ‘what actually happened’ means - how much wiggle room is there for optics when a 13 year old is raped? What sort of stunning revelation would throw a different light over it all?

99bottlesofkombucha · 06/08/2025 00:34

DartmoorWanderer · 05/08/2025 22:11

“Part of the problem” and I just don’t buy into bigotry.

You’ve quoted a post with the bbc thread. Have you read it yet?

UninterestedBeing12 · 06/08/2025 00:31

DartmoorWanderer · 05/08/2025 22:07

I’d be interested to know what’s actually happened, rather than the daily mail version.

Are you satisfied with the metropolitan police account of events? Are you happy with the detective inspectors account who led this investigation?

Because it's exactly the same as the daily mail report. Honest to god what's wrong with you.

Man jailed for 7 years for rape

A man has been jailed for raping a 13-year-old girl.

https://news.met.police.uk/news/man-jailed-for-7-years-for-rape-498893

Juststop2025 · 06/08/2025 00:30

VaseofViolets · 06/08/2025 00:15

You stated that you were pro-immigration. I replied that I’m not, for reasons such as this. Specifically, I think it’s clear that a not-insignificant number of immigrant men have cultural values and norms which differ from those in the UK. You extrapolated wildly from what I said and insinuated that I must therefore think all immigrants are rapists. Which no one does.

They cannot argue with facts. Straw man fallacies, and ad hominem slurs and insults is all they have.

Juststop2025 · 06/08/2025 00:29

UninterestedBeing12 · 06/08/2025 00:15

Now I understand why the pakistani gangs got away with grooming and raping white children - women who are also most likely Mother's are more outraged by potential bigotry and inaccurate reporting.

Yep.

Isittimeformynapyet · 06/08/2025 00:29

SummerEve · 05/08/2025 23:40

Alternatively we could use all that time, effort and money preventing crime instead.

A capital idea!

Have your proposals on my desk Monday morning.

If only it were that simple.

Juststop2025 · 06/08/2025 00:26

VaseofViolets · 05/08/2025 23:57

I should have said I don’t think it’s an excuse, a defense or any kind of mitigating circumstance then. I’d be interested in hearing an explanation why his potentially being discriminated against would be considered mitigating circumstances in the rape of a child.

Only rape apologists do ont understand your point.

Anyone who mentions race/ethnicity/citizenship in a sentencing as any sort of mitigating factor wants to keep the rapist in the country. If he is not from the UK he could potentially be deported if the judge actually invokes a reasonable sentence.

UninterestedBeing12 · 06/08/2025 00:23

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 06/08/2025 00:17

What? You think that perhaps the 13-year-old girl "wanted it"? Or perhaps it was what she wore? That the perpetrator made a wrong assumption, or didn't know what he was doing?

I wonder what you would think of the sentence if it was one of your daughters, nieces, granddaughters, etc. Or yourself?

This judge sounds like one of the idiots that would say that if a woman is being raped, she should just lay back and enjoy it.

Quite. I hope that poor child or her family never read this thread.

AnnoyedAsAllHeck · 06/08/2025 00:17

DartmoorWanderer · 05/08/2025 22:07

I’d be interested to know what’s actually happened, rather than the daily mail version.

What? You think that perhaps the 13-year-old girl "wanted it"? Or perhaps it was what she wore? That the perpetrator made a wrong assumption, or didn't know what he was doing?

I wonder what you would think of the sentence if it was one of your daughters, nieces, granddaughters, etc. Or yourself?

This judge sounds like one of the idiots that would say that if a woman is being raped, she should just lay back and enjoy it.

UninterestedBeing12 · 06/08/2025 00:15

VaseofViolets · 05/08/2025 22:19

God forbid there might be tension or unrest as a result of accurate reporting of a judge’s comments on this man’s heinous crime…

What’s wrong with you?

Now I understand why the pakistani gangs got away with grooming and raping white children - women who are also most likely Mother's are more outraged by potential bigotry and inaccurate reporting.