AIBU to think the judge’s comments in this case are completely inappropriate?

But also you don’t hold jurisdiction over other countries justice systems so how (and why tbh) would you imprison a citizen for something a foreign government wants them punished for, at your country’s expense? It’s just not practical, as well as the other points you raise

(and yes I know there are agreements made where prisoners serve out their sentence in their home country but they are individual arrangements with certain countries and usually swaps)

Suicidal empathy, as I said. More concerned with the ‘human rights’ of foreign born criminals than British women and girls having the right to walk their neighbourhoods in safety. You think the UK prides itself on this? It’s not much to boast about.

Dangerous in this case had a specific meaning in law. As the Faily bigot well knows

Hmm-might be something to do with..you know, that thing the UK prides itself on….oh yes, I remember-human rights.

Ooops you’ve got bigotry and racism mixed up. Silly. Got to be careful

Suicidal empathy.

Free as a bird but fleeing from persecution war etc they honestly cant have it every way and we could have them serve a sentence here then throw them out however we tend not too do that either

Frankly, that’s their lookout. If I commit a crime in this country, and I’m deported home and face a worse sentence there, I’ve no one to blame but myself. No sympathy there. I don’t know why it’s any concern of the UK.

There is also the reverse situation-where someone would receive what we would consider an unacceptable sentence if they were deported to their home country.

Or you could have a go at understanding the legal system in the UK? Once you understand it, you can campaign to get it changed.

I wondered why people aren’t immediately deported. Then it was pointed out that a returned criminal might not necessarily be imprisoned in their own country, or released very quickly.

Countries’ crimes differ. For example we see nothing wrong with having an alcoholic drink - but you’d be banged up if you imbibed in some places. Likewise the crime of the individual in the case under discussion might be seen as minor in his place of origin.

Interestingly (or appallingly) there was a case of a patient raping a woman in a London hospital whose defence was that it wasn’t unacceptable in his culture. So if he’d been deported he’d presumably be free as a bird.

Maybe an investigation into the judiciary members private life is needed. Only one reason for leniency and sympathy towards a scumbag like that.

He is being deported-after he serves his sentence.

They are deported after they have served their sentence

You want him to serve his sentence don’t you?

Not one person has said anything like that.

I didn’t report you, pal.

But if you’re going to make comments like ‘I see you’ - which on a thread like this one implies something very serious - you need to be able to back them up.

You’ve said you don’t do ad hominem attacks, so I’ve either said something so obvious that everyone literally can see it or you’ve applied your laser sharp powers of deduction to my posts, in which case you can join the dots for everyone.

Heaven forbid you might just be throwing around nasty, poisonous half-baked accusations.

Our economy needs it, in a kind of Ponzi scheme way, our environment definitely does not!

Absolutely no idea. I’m fully in support of immigration, the UK needs it. Why convicted overseas criminals aren’t deported has always baffled me, though.

Again, imagine being THAT person on a thread who is trying the ACKSHUALLY raping children is ok in certain circumstances but I won't quite say that out loud...

Imagine even thinking of the instances where you might barely squeak by raping a child in order to try to disrupt and minimise normal, correct responses to child rapists.

Oof. Wow.

Lol you reported me for even saying I see you. Hahahahahaha! Yeah, nothing to see here, move along 😅

Really you see no nuance in rape cases involving children? You see no difference between these fictional cases?

1. 18 Yr old man having sex with his 13yr old girlfriend, she tells the court she consented but she's under the age of consent

1. 18 Yr old man who was drunk at a party, went to a bedroom with a 13yr old girl who he thought was older, she enthusiastically consented to some "heavy petting" but he "got carried away and went too far". He has shown great remorse, written a heartfelt letter of apology, undertaken therapy and volunteered to undertake unpaid work for a charity educating young people about consent. He has no previous history and excellent character references

1. A 40 Yr old man corners the 13 Yr old friend of his son and rapes her. He says "she was gagging for it", she says she was crying and saying "please stop" other girls come forward and report flashing and groping.

1. A 30 Yr old man in a balaclava grabs a 13yr old girl walking home through a park in the dark, holds her down and rapes her, threatening to cut her throat if she screams and come for her family if she reports it. There are 10 other reports of similar crimes by this offender taken into account.

You really think there is no difference?

Yeah. Believing on the internet is just daft. That’s why I read newspapers and reputable online sources.

Go on and say whatever it is you think people are preventing you from saying about this crime.

However, if what you want to say is that a poster you disagree with is some sort of unspecified deviant (as a deleted post aimed at me implied earlier) of course you’ll be shut down - by MN.

Yep. Shut it down. Same as people reporting posts for being "deeply offensive"

Can you explain why? It doesn’t seem fair to cast aspersions on people’s motivations for posting without something to back it up.

Surely it doesn’t need to be stated that this is a dreadful crime. I can’t imagine what discussion we’d have about the crime itself, but if you think there is a point that is being stifled, what is it?

Whereas, it does seem worthwhile to point out misunderstandings. And I completely disagree that everyone on here understands sentencing guidelines! Lack of understanding about the law is a staple on any crime and justice thread.