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Should residents be able to 'police' sections of their street?

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StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:01

After just being shouted at by an incredibly rude and aggressive woman who barged out of her house to have a go at me for letting my dog wee on a patch of council owned grass at the end of her close I thought I would ask wise Mumsnetters their thoughts.

The woman who took it upon herself to police her street, and also, apparently, takes it upon herself to 'look after' this small patch of grass by planting a few geraniums in the middle, claims that because she looks after it and children play there sometimes I should not let my dog on it. Apparently my husband has "already been told not to use it" by her, so how dare I.

My thoughts are that children play in gardens and parks where dogs go all the time, that this is not her land, and that this is a convenient place for my dog to wee while we temporarily have no garden access due to building work. It is the closest bit of public grass we have, and I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away.

This has reminded me of many incidents I've been involved in or heard of over the years, often to do with parking spaces on public highways but outside someone's house.

Should residents be able to 'police' the use of the streets directly in front of or around their home? I think no, so AIBU? If you are one of the people that think I am unreasonable I'd love to hear why, and if you do this on your street do people abide by your demands?

OP posts:
Flossflower · 04/08/2025 15:49

I am another one who grew up with dogs being made to go in the gutter.
I think it is really bad that people let their dogs go to the toilet where children play. This woman is just trying to make her area nice.
OP YABU. Even if you are having building work done take your dog into your garden on a lead or use the gutter. Why can’t you just be considerate?

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 15:47

DinoLil · 04/08/2025 15:19

What about the cats, foxes and other wildlife that pee on that patch of grass? The birds that shit on it? What about blokes that pee on it or small children?

Ooh, ooh, I know! Get all dogs DNA tested and supplied with an ID certificate. Do the same for cats and tag them. Ditto wildlife. Then go out twice a day, hands and knees job, and swab every grass blade, test it and see what is to blame. Sorted! That's nice and fair in the blame game.

Seriously, some of you on here are batshit when it comes to dogs. I bet you're all cat servants and let them crap all over the place!

Cats are just as bad. Dogs pissing and shitting in the driveway, cats shitting all over the back garden. The actual wildlife (remember dogs are pets, not nature) is nowhere near as much of a problem!

prelovedusername · 04/08/2025 15:47

Talk about batshittery on this thread. Dogs are fine, but they seem to make their owners crazy.

Dogs have to hold their wee and poo in for much longer than humans and go on demand because they can't just take themselves off to the lavatory when they need to. They're already managing their toileting, it just takes a responsible owner to play their part and find a suitable place and then clean up afterwards. If you have a dog you have a garden (if not you're unfit to be a dog owner) so you actually have somewhere to train your dog to go.

If you make sure your dog is toileted before you go out for walks and then it still needs to go, you clean up and take everthing home. It's really not that hard.

spoonbillstretford · 04/08/2025 15:41

Dont be so selfish and use the gutter. When I was 13 I taught our dog to use the gutter. Im sure you can too.

How does the dog get onto the roof?

BlackCatGreyWhiskers · 04/08/2025 15:40

MissMoneyFairy · 04/08/2025 15:30

I think her husband let the dog poo in the same spot

Aslong as it’s scooped up.

It’s a fact of life. I have a popular dog walking route directly opposite my house so for the poster who suggested it I’m sure I get my fair share of dog urine.

Theteenandme · 04/08/2025 15:35

Someone let's their dog wee up our front wall. This encourages other dogs to wee there. It stinks. Then my stupid cat decides to roll in it. So I end up with a stinky wall and stinking cat.

Plus the wee destroys grass.

Dont be so selfish and use the gutter. When I was 13 I taught our dog to use the gutter. Im sure you can too.

spoonbillstretford · 04/08/2025 15:35

Reignonyourparade · 04/08/2025 15:33

Training

Train yourself not to bother about something perfectly normal like a dog peeing in the street, that would be easier than training all the dogs just to please you.

Reignonyourparade · 04/08/2025 15:33

Idontjetwashthefucker · 04/08/2025 13:12

Don't have facilities for? My dog has free rein to the garden all day and will wee and poo out there, when he's walked he will wee and poo...how do you suggest we stop that?

Training

spoonbillstretford · 04/08/2025 15:32

I wouldn't let the dog pee on the geraniums but you don't need to worry about grass. It's not an endangered species.

Ponoka7 · 04/08/2025 15:31

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

When was that? It's been in my children's lifetime that stray dogs stopped being a thing. Dogs used to wander. Men and boys would piss against walls etc.

No they shouldn't if it isn't exceptionally anti-social. We've just had an incident were paramedics were shouted at and had to put up with aggressive behaviour from men 60-75 because they think they are in charge of parking/road usage and the ambulance was blocking the road. It's been building up to this.

MissMoneyFairy · 04/08/2025 15:30

BlackCatGreyWhiskers · 04/08/2025 15:15

It’s wee not shit. It’ll be fine. I’m sure we step on areas that dogs have weed on on a regular basis and have no idea.

I think her husband let the dog poo in the same spot

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/08/2025 15:30

At least this thread has taught me why our grass is so yellow - the foxes!

I have got a new fence now and they don’t come nearly as much but before they were practically living in our garden

DinoLil · 04/08/2025 15:19

What about the cats, foxes and other wildlife that pee on that patch of grass? The birds that shit on it? What about blokes that pee on it or small children?

Ooh, ooh, I know! Get all dogs DNA tested and supplied with an ID certificate. Do the same for cats and tag them. Ditto wildlife. Then go out twice a day, hands and knees job, and swab every grass blade, test it and see what is to blame. Sorted! That's nice and fair in the blame game.

Seriously, some of you on here are batshit when it comes to dogs. I bet you're all cat servants and let them crap all over the place!

party4you · 04/08/2025 15:18

Oh OP this is MN. That means just by owning a dog you’re in the wrong 🙄

you’re not doing anything wrong but I agree with the idea of bringing a milk carton with some water - shows an effort.

ChocolateCinderToffee · 04/08/2025 15:17

TaborlinTheGreat · 04/08/2025 14:26

Dogs don't stop and ask their owners before they wee. They just do it.

I used to walk a friend's dog in the days before poo bags and she was trained to pee in the gutter.

menopausalfart · 04/08/2025 15:16

You'd think, being a dog-loving country, that we'd have more spaces for people and their pets. I can see why she was pissed off if the patch she looks after, stinks of dog piss, even though you didn't break the law.

BlackCatGreyWhiskers · 04/08/2025 15:15

AndOnAndOn1000 · 04/08/2025 15:04

How about outside your house, so you can take joy in stepping in it?

It’s wee not shit. It’ll be fine. I’m sure we step on areas that dogs have weed on on a regular basis and have no idea.

SawPalmettoPrincess · 04/08/2025 15:15

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/08/2025 15:09

My parents own a small strip of land that they aren’t allowed to fence off or have as part of their garden. They tried once and the council wouldn’t let them. But they make a fuss if it’s not maintained!

Same. People think it’s just a bit of land a free for all. But I pay for its upkeep the plants, mow it, weed and feed it, treat it for leather jackets etc. all at great expense. I mentioned earlier that I did put up a sign saying private land please keep dogs off, and it got kicked down repeatedly. I can only assume people thought that was nonsense and that I was being aggressive and controlling.

FairKoala · 04/08/2025 15:13

Serpentstooth · 04/08/2025 13:09

YABU and antisocial. Take your dog elsewhere and don't be so bloody

  1. Entitled
  2. Lazy.

Where would elsewhere be ?

You can’t use private land for obvious reasons and the parks pavements and grass areas you are calling someone lazy and entitled for using. So where exactly can a dog go for a pee?

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/08/2025 15:09

SawPalmettoPrincess · 04/08/2025 15:05

I don’t really know to be honest. We aren’t allowed to fence off our front gardens either.
I did get DH to make a sign once on the laser cutter, but someone kicked it down.

My parents own a small strip of land that they aren’t allowed to fence off or have as part of their garden. They tried once and the council wouldn’t let them. But they make a fuss if it’s not maintained!

heroinechic · 04/08/2025 15:08

SawPalmettoPrincess · 04/08/2025 14:50

You could be talking about me op.

I own a patch of land next to my home but not my garden, which others assume is council owned. I have planted lavender on it and it is on my deeds. But people let their dogs piss on it turning my grass yellow and killing my plants. I have gone out and asked people not to walk their dogs on it plenty of times and mostly they stare at me as if I have two heads. Dirty, lazy entitled people who see a nicely cared for patch of land and don’t give two shits and think it is perfectly reasonable to allow their animal to ruin it.

Could she? Are you incredibly rude and aggressive? It’s so weird that every person that lets their dog on your land is also dirty. Should make them easier to spot!

In all seriousness, if you can’t fence it in, put a little sign on saying private land no entry/no dogs. The vast majority of dog owners will not let their dogs wander onto people’s private gardens.

Flossflower · 04/08/2025 15:08

Idontjetwashthefucker · 04/08/2025 13:12

Don't have facilities for? My dog has free rein to the garden all day and will wee and poo out there, when he's walked he will wee and poo...how do you suggest we stop that?

Training

HerdMentality · 04/08/2025 15:08

SawPalmettoPrincess · 04/08/2025 15:03

You already have dogs pissing in your garden, so it’s hardly like you care about having a nice lawn. But what of those of us who have chosen to be pet free because we don’t want to live in piss and shit and be clearing up mess? My flowers matter to me, I tend to them and they bring me joy. When I’m abroad I pay someone to look after them and keep them healthy. It devastates me to see people abuse them by allowing their dogs to piss on them. My plants are more important to me than your dog.

And that’s great in your own garden, but we’re talking about a public place.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 04/08/2025 15:06

ScholesPanda · 04/08/2025 13:15

In very hard nosed terms you're not being unreasonable. She doesn't own that land anymore than you.

Seriously though, this woman makes an effort to keep your street nice and your response is to let your dog pee on it?

You sum up everything that is wrong with this country.

I sort of agree with this - except for the last bit which is OTT in my opinion.

You’re right that she has no legal right to stop you. And she could have gone about asking in a nicer way.

However, she has gone to effort to keep that bit of the street nice. It is a bit unkind/ antisocial to make it smell of piss. It’s her immediate environment and of course she doesn’t want it smelling in this way.

I think it’s not too big an ask to ask you to take the dog elsewhere to piss. And dogs should be trained to piss where it suits the humans not to choose wherever they like. A UTI isn’t going to be relieved in any way by pissing on grass rather than into a gutter.

CoralOP · 04/08/2025 15:06

Wow some of these answers are crazzzzy, of course she can't dictate what happens to a public bit of land and dogs piss outside!

This is very similar to an incident I had a few weeks ago. I was walking 2 dogs down a street towards a field and an elderly woman came up to me and said I shouldn't be walking anywhere near her house, that I was attracting other dogs to go near her house.

Her house was fenced off and I was walking down a public footpath, absolutely bat shit crazy to think she can say this to people!