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Should residents be able to 'police' sections of their street?

318 replies

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:01

After just being shouted at by an incredibly rude and aggressive woman who barged out of her house to have a go at me for letting my dog wee on a patch of council owned grass at the end of her close I thought I would ask wise Mumsnetters their thoughts.

The woman who took it upon herself to police her street, and also, apparently, takes it upon herself to 'look after' this small patch of grass by planting a few geraniums in the middle, claims that because she looks after it and children play there sometimes I should not let my dog on it. Apparently my husband has "already been told not to use it" by her, so how dare I.

My thoughts are that children play in gardens and parks where dogs go all the time, that this is not her land, and that this is a convenient place for my dog to wee while we temporarily have no garden access due to building work. It is the closest bit of public grass we have, and I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away.

This has reminded me of many incidents I've been involved in or heard of over the years, often to do with parking spaces on public highways but outside someone's house.

Should residents be able to 'police' the use of the streets directly in front of or around their home? I think no, so AIBU? If you are one of the people that think I am unreasonable I'd love to hear why, and if you do this on your street do people abide by your demands?

OP posts:
pennypans · 04/08/2025 17:20

Normally on these threads I think the dog owners are the crazy ones so this is new!

pennypans · 04/08/2025 17:20

Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.

How strong do you think dog piss is?

pennypans · 04/08/2025 17:19

there will be foxes and rats and cats and all sorts peeing near her geraniums

Presumably they all have their own facilities!

pennypans · 04/08/2025 17:19

It's not her problem you have a dog you apparently don't have facilities for and can't look after.

Batshit! 😆

pennypans · 04/08/2025 17:18

WTF am I reading. It's grass on the fucking street people not her garden!

BeanQuisine · 04/08/2025 17:18

BlueMum16 · 04/08/2025 17:14

Sums it up perfectly.

Nah, everyone has a right to walk their dog, along any public street. And dogs will piss when they need to.

These are simple facts of life understood by any child, but apparently too difficult for some posters here to grasp.

DogsandFlowers · 04/08/2025 17:17

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

It’s a dog? They’re trained to wee outside they cannot differentiate between a drain and a bit of shitty council grass.
Grown men on the other hand…..

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 17:16

DiscoBob · 04/08/2025 16:36

She planted geraniums there, you don't live on the same street, your dog pissed on them. She was angry. You were being unreasonable.

Why can't you see it's not a nice thing to do? You knew she planted the geraniums there so why allow dog to piss on them? Can't you see how you wouldn't like it if the roles were reversed?

Why are you making stuff up to try and support your weak argument? There was no piss on the geraniums, this only happened in your mind.

So to you it is ok for someone to be so angry over something like this they are straight out rude and aggressive towards people out of nowhere? I guess this helps me understand that mindset, even if it appears completely irrational to me. I see this woman out and about, she could have just talked to me if it was bothering her.

If the roles were reversed I would realise I cannot control what other people do on publicly owned land and said nothing. It literally would not have bothered me one bit. Dogs wee. It rains. Life goes on.

OP posts:
Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 17:14

BeanQuisine · 04/08/2025 17:13

The grass is not hers to plant things on. It's there for everyone to make use of, including dog walkers.

Quite amusing that this seems impossible for some posters to grasp.😆

Why must public land be used dog toilets though? Can dog owners not make use of it some other, more pleasant way like everyone else? Public =/= personal dog loo.

BlueMum16 · 04/08/2025 17:14

SriouslyWhutNow · 04/08/2025 13:10

She's just asking you to not make her environment shit. Because it's not just one dog. It's dozens of dogs all day every day, and she's clearly fed up of it. Of course she obviously has no legal recourse or right to do it, but as a decent human being and a considerate adult you would be a bit of a dick to keep doing this having been asked to stop by someone who obviously cares a lot about it. It's not her problem you have a dog you apparently don't have facilities for and can't look after.

Sums it up perfectly.

BeanQuisine · 04/08/2025 17:13

DiscoBob · 04/08/2025 16:36

She planted geraniums there, you don't live on the same street, your dog pissed on them. She was angry. You were being unreasonable.

Why can't you see it's not a nice thing to do? You knew she planted the geraniums there so why allow dog to piss on them? Can't you see how you wouldn't like it if the roles were reversed?

The grass is not hers to plant things on. It's there for everyone to make use of, including dog walkers.

Quite amusing that this seems impossible for some posters to grasp.😆

BlackCatGreyWhiskers · 04/08/2025 17:12

DeLaRuiz · 04/08/2025 17:10

This kind of legalese thinking doesn’t make for happy humans. The children want a dog piss free place, all the people that live there prefer flowers than yellow grass.. the whole ethos of taking care of your vicinity is very wholesome.
your response is myopic and bot like.

in reality there’s no yellow grass and if there’s flowers the children can’t play without trampling those anyway, so which is it?

LostWithoutMum · 04/08/2025 17:11

Serious bunch of dog hating nutjobs on here🤣🤣 . Keep washing your supermarket shopping....

DeLaRuiz · 04/08/2025 17:10

BlackCatGreyWhiskers · 04/08/2025 16:54

It’s not the person’s property

This kind of legalese thinking doesn’t make for happy humans. The children want a dog piss free place, all the people that live there prefer flowers than yellow grass.. the whole ethos of taking care of your vicinity is very wholesome.
your response is myopic and bot like.

VIOLETPUGH · 04/08/2025 17:08

stupid woman ! Does she tell the cats and foxes not to wee there too. Ignore her and tell her this is not her land !

FairKoala · 04/08/2025 17:07

DiscoBob · 04/08/2025 16:58

I just would not do it. I'd see that someone has tried to make it nice at their own expense and treat it like any other garden with geraniums or flowers. And direct my dog to a much more unloved looking area.

But it isn’t a garden. It isn’t hers to plant flowers on.

People have been taken to court for planting flowers on land they DO own because the land is classified as agricultural or brownfield or amenity land.

If you were being petty you could look to see what the piece of grass is classified as. Interesting if you complained to the council and said that someone was screaming at you for using the piece of grass

If you plant flowers on council land it doesn’t mean you can shout at people for using it. Why would anyone think you could. It could end up with you in court

Donttellempike · 04/08/2025 17:05

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:01

After just being shouted at by an incredibly rude and aggressive woman who barged out of her house to have a go at me for letting my dog wee on a patch of council owned grass at the end of her close I thought I would ask wise Mumsnetters their thoughts.

The woman who took it upon herself to police her street, and also, apparently, takes it upon herself to 'look after' this small patch of grass by planting a few geraniums in the middle, claims that because she looks after it and children play there sometimes I should not let my dog on it. Apparently my husband has "already been told not to use it" by her, so how dare I.

My thoughts are that children play in gardens and parks where dogs go all the time, that this is not her land, and that this is a convenient place for my dog to wee while we temporarily have no garden access due to building work. It is the closest bit of public grass we have, and I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away.

This has reminded me of many incidents I've been involved in or heard of over the years, often to do with parking spaces on public highways but outside someone's house.

Should residents be able to 'police' the use of the streets directly in front of or around their home? I think no, so AIBU? If you are one of the people that think I am unreasonable I'd love to hear why, and if you do this on your street do people abide by your demands?

What you want is for everyone to agree that this woman is wrong and you are right.

Dogs are a pain in the arse . As are many many of their owners.

Neemie · 04/08/2025 17:01

You have a whole list of reasons why your dog simply must piss (and sometimes poo on) a patch of grass that someone else is trying to keep nice. Yet in your head it she is the entitled selfish one. It isn’t even on your own street. It will also encourage every other dog to use it as a piss station.

Boomer55 · 04/08/2025 16:59

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

Yes. It’s all grim - teach the dog to pee in the gutter. 🙄

FairKoala · 04/08/2025 16:59

GasPanic · 04/08/2025 16:42

I don't believe in vigilantes.

On the other hand, when there is a parade of dogs going past pissing on your property it is not very nice. I'd prefer it if dog owners got their dog to piss on their own house.

But this isn’t her property

DiscoBob · 04/08/2025 16:58

FairKoala · 04/08/2025 16:55

So if you plant flowers in a random bit of grass that makes you the ruler and enforcer of that little bit of grass.

If you plant flowers on pieces of grass that is on the side of the pavement, expect them to be walked on. Choose plants that spring back if you must plant them. But don’t start screaming at people for walking on the area that is meant to be walked on and don’t start throwing a hissy fit if a dog has a wee on an area that has probably seen its fair share of wee and poo from other animals wild or otherwise.

TBH I would say she probably needs more going on in her life if it has got to this stage.

By all means keep places tidy but don’t take over what you don’t own and expect the general public to conform to your rules.

I just would not do it. I'd see that someone has tried to make it nice at their own expense and treat it like any other garden with geraniums or flowers. And direct my dog to a much more unloved looking area.

Wolfpa · 04/08/2025 16:58

To answer your question residents shouldn’t be able to police sections of their street, everyone has different standards and who is to say that the particular resident is doing what is best for the street or have they just decided to make someone’s life difficult because they don’t like them.

Are you sure the ground you are taking your dog on is communal? I own a patch of grass round the side of my house that is outside the garden wall, it really annoys me that people allow their dogs to treat it like a toilet. I have asked some to not do it as I own the land and I have received varying responses from people who weren’t aware it was private land who have stopped to people who have told me they have no control over their dogs toilet habits.

I am currently debating digging the whole lot up and either putting gravel down or wildflowering it.

FairKoala · 04/08/2025 16:58

DiscoBob · 04/08/2025 16:36

She planted geraniums there, you don't live on the same street, your dog pissed on them. She was angry. You were being unreasonable.

Why can't you see it's not a nice thing to do? You knew she planted the geraniums there so why allow dog to piss on them? Can't you see how you wouldn't like it if the roles were reversed?

But the council are just going to mow them down. She needs to understand that planting flowers on public land doesn’t mean she can police what happens on that land.

SomethingDifferentBloomed · 04/08/2025 16:56

This thread is actually nuts. I feel like I’m a fairly reasonable person but this is the first thread in ages where I’m definitely in the minority. So some woman has planted some geraniums and thereby commandeered a piece of (council-owned, definitely not hers) grass, and because of that is apparently allowed to dictate what the space is used for and yell at people she deems to not be using it correctly? That’s way more antisocial than letting your dog wee on a public verge.

Thanksman · 04/08/2025 16:55

SawPalmettoPrincess · 04/08/2025 16:51

My estate was built in 2017, so it’s still fairly new. I don’t think anyone has fenced in their front garden yet. As soon as the first person does though!!! 😂

I suspect people would be so confused if I fenced in our ‘extra garden’. They’d probably think we were nuts. It does look like just a small area of green that isn’t attached to a house. But once I tell a person, it would be nice for them to keep their dogs off it.

I was going to suggest selling it back to the developers but they’d probably try to squeeze another small house on there! 🤣

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