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Should residents be able to 'police' sections of their street?

318 replies

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:01

After just being shouted at by an incredibly rude and aggressive woman who barged out of her house to have a go at me for letting my dog wee on a patch of council owned grass at the end of her close I thought I would ask wise Mumsnetters their thoughts.

The woman who took it upon herself to police her street, and also, apparently, takes it upon herself to 'look after' this small patch of grass by planting a few geraniums in the middle, claims that because she looks after it and children play there sometimes I should not let my dog on it. Apparently my husband has "already been told not to use it" by her, so how dare I.

My thoughts are that children play in gardens and parks where dogs go all the time, that this is not her land, and that this is a convenient place for my dog to wee while we temporarily have no garden access due to building work. It is the closest bit of public grass we have, and I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away.

This has reminded me of many incidents I've been involved in or heard of over the years, often to do with parking spaces on public highways but outside someone's house.

Should residents be able to 'police' the use of the streets directly in front of or around their home? I think no, so AIBU? If you are one of the people that think I am unreasonable I'd love to hear why, and if you do this on your street do people abide by your demands?

OP posts:
Digdongdoo · 05/08/2025 07:07

Pamcakey · 05/08/2025 06:32

But that’s the whole point. The dog is peeing on council owned land. Not a privately owned flowerbed or gate etc.

If it’s not illegal, no one’s wishes trump someone else’s on public land.

Lots of places are "council owned". You wouldn't take your dog to piss on the registry office or a museum would you? Just because it's public doesn't mean dogs must piss on it.
Plenty of places that aren't nicely maintained or children's play areas to choose from.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should. A concept that seems to elude dog owners...

Pamcakey · 05/08/2025 06:32

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 22:59

I am aware. (Although I'm not entirely convinced the geraniums were unscathed). I did say "for example"...

But that’s the whole point. The dog is peeing on council owned land. Not a privately owned flowerbed or gate etc.

If it’s not illegal, no one’s wishes trump someone else’s on public land.

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 22:59

grumpygrape · 04/08/2025 22:50

But OP's dog isn't peeing on 'Flower beds, park benches, peoples gates'.

I am aware. (Although I'm not entirely convinced the geraniums were unscathed). I did say "for example"...

grumpygrape · 04/08/2025 22:50

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 18:19

They don't need to collect the wee. Just walk their dogs in appropriate places when it's toilet time. Flower beds, park benches, peoples gates are examples of places dogs shouldn't be allowed to wee. It's not difficult. Just a little consideration needed.

But OP's dog isn't peeing on 'Flower beds, park benches, peoples gates'.

RubySquid · 04/08/2025 22:42

FairKoala · 04/08/2025 16:58

But the council are just going to mow them down. She needs to understand that planting flowers on public land doesn’t mean she can police what happens on that land.

I doubt utOur council don't mow the nice flowers people plant on the grass outside their property. In fact it's hard enough to get them to do much mowing or weeding anywhere these days until residents have all sent in complaints

Reignonyourparade · 04/08/2025 21:31

RedPony1 · 04/08/2025 16:39

You know all manner of different animals will be pissing on it daily though, right?

All manner, it’s not the fucking zoo 🙄

Reignonyourparade · 04/08/2025 21:28

Jom222 · 04/08/2025 16:48

This is hands down the most batshit crazy thing I've EVER read on mumsnet.

really? What you don’t find streams of piss revolting? Really? Oh come on. I’m sure you’d welcome a dog pissing on your front step, or your car wheel. I find it weird that dog owners don’t feel embarrassed to let their dogs piss anywhere and everywhere.

JSMill · 04/08/2025 19:55

frozendaisy · 04/08/2025 13:15

there will be foxes and rats and cats and all sorts peeing near her geraniums

she just wants to intimidate people

Exactly!!

heroinechic · 04/08/2025 19:38

ScholesPanda · 04/08/2025 13:15

In very hard nosed terms you're not being unreasonable. She doesn't own that land anymore than you.

Seriously though, this woman makes an effort to keep your street nice and your response is to let your dog pee on it?

You sum up everything that is wrong with this country.

Not the drug dealers, rapists, groomers, abusers, racists, homophobes, antisemitics, Islamophobes, tax evaders, freeloaders or criminals.

No.

OP is everything wrong with this country. Because she walks her dog and lets it wee on land owned by the Council.

You couldn’t make it up 😂

myplace · 04/08/2025 19:18

We get regular complaints about an area that stinks. It turned out to be a plant growing there. Very unassuming looking shrub, but it really does stink of dirt.

Thanksman · 04/08/2025 19:15

GasPanic · 04/08/2025 18:56

Near me there are some woods and there is a path through them.

As people walk their dogs into the woods at the first point of entry the dogs basically unload and the whole area stinks of dogshit and piss because a lot of owners don't clean it up because the dogs do it off track and in the woods and therefore it's "OK to leave it".

There is even a disposal bin with bags outside that particular point.

Fortunately no one really lives near that bit, it's across the road from where anyone lives.

I’m going to ask if you can shed any light on why some people decorate bushes with bags of dog poo? Or if anyone else can. Particularly when there’s a bin there for that purpose.

GasPanic · 04/08/2025 18:56

Near me there are some woods and there is a path through them.

As people walk their dogs into the woods at the first point of entry the dogs basically unload and the whole area stinks of dogshit and piss because a lot of owners don't clean it up because the dogs do it off track and in the woods and therefore it's "OK to leave it".

There is even a disposal bin with bags outside that particular point.

Fortunately no one really lives near that bit, it's across the road from where anyone lives.

PetiteBlondeDuBoulevardBrune · 04/08/2025 18:53

ScholesPanda · 04/08/2025 13:15

In very hard nosed terms you're not being unreasonable. She doesn't own that land anymore than you.

Seriously though, this woman makes an effort to keep your street nice and your response is to let your dog pee on it?

You sum up everything that is wrong with this country.

This!

JeremiahBullfrog · 04/08/2025 18:49

Unfortunately some unknown person may come along in the dead of night and cut down the precious geraniums ...

heroinechic · 04/08/2025 18:20

Where do you all live that smells like dog piss all the time? I have literally never been to a park/walked past a patch of grass and thought “wow that smells like dog piss”.

UpDo · 04/08/2025 18:19

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 14:02

Yes, I think I will do this. It shows some willingness to accomodate her perspective, whilst meeting mine and my dogs needs in a perfectly legal and reasonable manner.

Good idea.

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 18:19

BeanQuisine · 04/08/2025 17:43

Dog owners certainly should have a responsibility to collect their dogs' poo when out walking them. They can't be expected to collect the dogs' wee.

Responsible dog owners know that their animals need exercise, and in residential areas this means taking them for walks along the public thoroughfares, which are open to all members of the public including dog walkers.

The idea being put about in this thread - that the public thoroughfare somehow "belongs" to the people who happen to live on the street in question - is laughable nonsense. Any member of the public can walk along any normal public street, and take their dog with them on a lead for exercise, and that doesn't mean they're being "nasty" or "thoughtless" (unless their dog is a vicious type who shouldn't be out and about, even on a lead).

I'm not a dog owner and often find dogs annoying. But the ones I find annoying are the mindless barkers, who are often neglected, neurotic animals who are not given any exercise (or even companionship) by their owners.

They don't need to collect the wee. Just walk their dogs in appropriate places when it's toilet time. Flower beds, park benches, peoples gates are examples of places dogs shouldn't be allowed to wee. It's not difficult. Just a little consideration needed.

PeonyPatch · 04/08/2025 18:15

Boomer55 · 04/08/2025 16:59

Yes. It’s all grim - teach the dog to pee in the gutter. 🙄

How ridiculous 😂

DiscoBob · 04/08/2025 18:06

BeanQuisine · 04/08/2025 17:13

The grass is not hers to plant things on. It's there for everyone to make use of, including dog walkers.

Quite amusing that this seems impossible for some posters to grasp.😆

There must be so many places the dog could piss that wouldn't annoy anyone?
I think we're just going to continue to disagree on this one. Which is fair enough.

Britishtrees · 04/08/2025 18:02

myplace · 04/08/2025 14:10

A man in my area works hard keeping a small patch looking beautiful. Dogs peeing on it leave brown circles. He gets very upset.

I do dislike people allowing dogs to pee on street furniture. It rots it, and is disgusting for the poor people that get to repaint or replace at intervals.

Yet people think it’s ok.

Dog pee does smell on public footpaths, rots wooden and metal gate posts and often food crops can't be planted in fields next to public footpaths due to the high nitrate content in soil. It is disgusting how many owners allow dogs to cock their legs or squat where they like. Imagine if 15 million people peed and pooed in parks and on paths and verges. Yet so many dog owners allow it, or can’t cater for their pets’ basic needs on their own property so we all have to subsidise them.I have come to the conclusion that the poor training and care of innocent dogs is perfect example of declining standards of respect for others and society.

grumpygrape · 04/08/2025 17:45

Nasty case of 'can't be bothered to read the original post or the original poster's updatesitis here today.

BeanQuisine · 04/08/2025 17:43

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 17:14

Why must public land be used dog toilets though? Can dog owners not make use of it some other, more pleasant way like everyone else? Public =/= personal dog loo.

Dog owners certainly should have a responsibility to collect their dogs' poo when out walking them. They can't be expected to collect the dogs' wee.

Responsible dog owners know that their animals need exercise, and in residential areas this means taking them for walks along the public thoroughfares, which are open to all members of the public including dog walkers.

The idea being put about in this thread - that the public thoroughfare somehow "belongs" to the people who happen to live on the street in question - is laughable nonsense. Any member of the public can walk along any normal public street, and take their dog with them on a lead for exercise, and that doesn't mean they're being "nasty" or "thoughtless" (unless their dog is a vicious type who shouldn't be out and about, even on a lead).

I'm not a dog owner and often find dogs annoying. But the ones I find annoying are the mindless barkers, who are often neglected, neurotic animals who are not given any exercise (or even companionship) by their owners.

DogsandFlowers · 04/08/2025 17:31

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 17:21

Op says her dog can differentiate...

I thought she said her dog gets UTIs? Poor thing let it do its wee mails in peace 😂😂

PractisingMyTelekenipsis · 04/08/2025 17:26

What happens if OP walks to the next patch of public grass and a neighbour who lives near that also tells her that her dog can't pee there because the children play on it?

Personally, I'm not a dog fan and couldn't care less if they were banned entirely. However, I also see how much joy some people get from them, so wouldn't campaign for a ban either. As such they need to pee somewhere, and if that somewhere is public land then so be it.

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 17:21

DogsandFlowers · 04/08/2025 17:17

It’s a dog? They’re trained to wee outside they cannot differentiate between a drain and a bit of shitty council grass.
Grown men on the other hand…..

Op says her dog can differentiate...

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