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Should residents be able to 'police' sections of their street?

318 replies

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:01

After just being shouted at by an incredibly rude and aggressive woman who barged out of her house to have a go at me for letting my dog wee on a patch of council owned grass at the end of her close I thought I would ask wise Mumsnetters their thoughts.

The woman who took it upon herself to police her street, and also, apparently, takes it upon herself to 'look after' this small patch of grass by planting a few geraniums in the middle, claims that because she looks after it and children play there sometimes I should not let my dog on it. Apparently my husband has "already been told not to use it" by her, so how dare I.

My thoughts are that children play in gardens and parks where dogs go all the time, that this is not her land, and that this is a convenient place for my dog to wee while we temporarily have no garden access due to building work. It is the closest bit of public grass we have, and I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away.

This has reminded me of many incidents I've been involved in or heard of over the years, often to do with parking spaces on public highways but outside someone's house.

Should residents be able to 'police' the use of the streets directly in front of or around their home? I think no, so AIBU? If you are one of the people that think I am unreasonable I'd love to hear why, and if you do this on your street do people abide by your demands?

OP posts:
Verv · 06/08/2025 11:48

Tut OP.
You should know by now that the only animals that cannot pee outside in public spaces are dogs.

PeonyPatch · 06/08/2025 11:40

StreetStrife · 06/08/2025 11:31

It's more the being shrieked at in the street by someone trying to take control of a public space that bothered me.

Yeah, I am with you OP, that is a complete overreaction. And the over inflated disgust towards you is unnecessary!

StreetStrife · 06/08/2025 11:31

PeonyPatch · 06/08/2025 09:14

I think this thread is pathetic. How small your life must be to care about a patch of council owned grass and a bunch of geraniums. There are much bigger things in the world that are way more important.

It's more the being shrieked at in the street by someone trying to take control of a public space that bothered me.

OP posts:
PeonyPatch · 06/08/2025 09:14

I think this thread is pathetic. How small your life must be to care about a patch of council owned grass and a bunch of geraniums. There are much bigger things in the world that are way more important.

Heyhoitsme · 06/08/2025 08:19

I can see your neighbour's point of view. She's trying to make the area look nice and you're letting your dog piss on it. Surely you can get the dog to go in the gutter.

llizzie · 06/08/2025 00:20

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:37

But there is a shortage of verges around here. She goes on it once or twice a day. My husband takes her on longer walks but if he's out I can't go very far at the moment (injury) so I take her there.

Why don't you buy a square (as big as you can carry) of artificial grass, let the dog use it, then take up up, put it in a bag and wash it for next time?

Chinsupmeloves · 05/08/2025 22:33

Dogs wee and poo (which we pick up) when out on walks. Usually mine have always had their long wee in garden prior to taking out so the rest are just fake pees.

For those who live in flats their only option is to take for walks, which they should.

I dont understand how this is so offensive? Public grass, so anyone who plants flowers is from own free will and while lovely to do so, the reality is that they will be trampled on by kids and dogs.

I do understand but sorry no one can claim a public area? Xxx

SuchiRolls · 05/08/2025 21:05

The premise of what she’s saying I don’t think is wrong, it’s the way she went about getting it across. Yes she may be annoyed but if anyone thinks you can just stop a dog peeing, think again. Dogs have to go like us, they don’t use a toilet and can pee wherever they are. The bottom line is, annoyed or not you can’t stop people from using a public space 🤷🏻♀️ But you can get them to take care of it by getting your point across in a non-aggressive way.

Shotokan101 · 05/08/2025 20:46

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

It was YOU wasn't it? 😈

Hmm1234 · 05/08/2025 20:34

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

I like this or had no idea dogs once peed in the gutter would make life so much more pleasant if mine knew how to do this

anon666 · 05/08/2025 20:32

So you want the right to allow your dog to piss wherever it wants, even if that is essentially in a space she's adopted as a community garden. 🤔

YABVU. Sure, its not "hers" but she's doing the community a favour by taking it in hand, and this is how the "community" repays her. By getting their dog to piss on it.

Well, they do say no good deed goes unpunished.

What I can't understand is why you're not mortified, but instead have decided to defiantly assert your dog's right to piss wherever it pleases.

BooneyBeautiful · 05/08/2025 20:28

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

When I was little and we had a dog, we always had to put it in the gutter when it started to do a poo, but I have never heard of it being done when the dog only wanted a wee. Most male dogs go up lamp posts or anything else that takes its fancy. The smell from dog urine seems to dissipate in the air almost immediately!

TrioG · 05/08/2025 19:52

As a dog owner myself you will be in not be surprised that I think this woman is being totally unreasonable.

This is not her land, she plants a few cheap plants and treats it’s like her personal RHS.

No one asked her to plant them, does she have her own garden to plant the plants she chooses to plant - if so then i suggest you tell her to do that in future.

Public space is for all to enjoy, unless she wants to arrange a 24 hour surveillance on this particular patch of land she needs to get a life.

No reasons from you are needed in my opinion, you dog needs a walk and will of course need to wee etc that’s life if not in your garden then somewhere else.

She has no right to restrict or intimidate you or you dog those that think otherwise are also control freaks !

teagirl27 · 05/08/2025 19:51

I'm astounded at many of the responses here- dogs need to go and it's not her land. All she had to say was 'is it possible that you can get your dog to wee away from the flowers I'm planting to make the verge look nice" and you'd have been "oh of course" then taken it elsewhere another time. There's no need for aggression. And getting the dog to wee in the gutter...boy dogs in particular want to mark their territories and sniffing out other dog's scents is part of their socialising process. Ignore the batshit woman and just take your dog elsewhere. I hope you feel better soon

Spinmerightroundbaby · 05/08/2025 18:37

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

This.

TheCheekyCyanHelper · 05/08/2025 18:26

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

This is a joke, right?

MellersSmellers · 05/08/2025 18:24

Yes I'd prefer that dogs didn't wee on my front wall but I accept that if they have to go, they have to go. And pray for rain.

heroinechic · 05/08/2025 14:26

IMO if you are going to try to exclude certain things (or exercise control) over land that you have absolutely no entitlement to, you have to be reasonable and polite.

Leaping out of your house to shout aggressively/rudely at people is not going to get you what you want, nor should it. The neighbour should be appealing to people’s good nature, not behaving as though she owns she place.

grumpygrape · 05/08/2025 13:32

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:01

After just being shouted at by an incredibly rude and aggressive woman who barged out of her house to have a go at me for letting my dog wee on a patch of council owned grass at the end of her close I thought I would ask wise Mumsnetters their thoughts.

The woman who took it upon herself to police her street, and also, apparently, takes it upon herself to 'look after' this small patch of grass by planting a few geraniums in the middle, claims that because she looks after it and children play there sometimes I should not let my dog on it. Apparently my husband has "already been told not to use it" by her, so how dare I.

My thoughts are that children play in gardens and parks where dogs go all the time, that this is not her land, and that this is a convenient place for my dog to wee while we temporarily have no garden access due to building work. It is the closest bit of public grass we have, and I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away.

This has reminded me of many incidents I've been involved in or heard of over the years, often to do with parking spaces on public highways but outside someone's house.

Should residents be able to 'police' the use of the streets directly in front of or around their home? I think no, so AIBU? If you are one of the people that think I am unreasonable I'd love to hear why, and if you do this on your street do people abide by your demands?

OP, some of us can actually read and comprehend. You are not being unreasonable. Your guardian of the geraniums is the unreasonable one.
I hope you building works are completed soon so you can go back to using your own property and not have to be subjected to her rants.

OrchardDoor · 05/08/2025 13:08

I don't think AIBU is the right board for you as you're not interested in hearing any opinions other than. "Ignore the old bat! Let your dog piss in front of her house as much as you like."

grumpygrape · 05/08/2025 12:59

FalseSpring · 05/08/2025 12:23

Both unreasonable, you for letting your dog pee on a cared for patch of grass and her for having a go at you. I think there are too many dogs everywhere now and hate that all the parks smell of dog wee - dog owners should teach their dogs to wee at home. If you don't have a garden you shouldn't have a dog.

Have you read the OP or the OP's updates?
No, thought not.

FalseSpring · 05/08/2025 12:23

Both unreasonable, you for letting your dog pee on a cared for patch of grass and her for having a go at you. I think there are too many dogs everywhere now and hate that all the parks smell of dog wee - dog owners should teach their dogs to wee at home. If you don't have a garden you shouldn't have a dog.

Pamcakey · 05/08/2025 07:27

That is your opinion though.
Why does your opinion trump mine?

That’s my whole point. It’s not considered antisocial behaviour by law. You don’t know people’s circumstances. In this example, the poster clearly explains why she does what she does. Her neighbours wishes don’t trump that. The same as this poster’s wishes don’t trump her neighbours. So ultimately it comes down to whether it’s lawful, and it is.

There’s plenty of things that I think are annoying and antisocial in this world which are perfectly lawful things to do so I have to suck it up.

Digdongdoo · 05/08/2025 07:19

Pamcakey · 05/08/2025 07:13

Dogs aren’t generally allowed in museums or registry offices so that’s a moot point.
It’s a grass verge, where plenty of wild animals with be shitting and pissing, not a designated playground.

The fact that someone has taken it upon themselves to
maintain a public space, doesn’t mean other members of the public can’t use it as they see fit.

I mean if it were the grass verge outside my house, I’d hate it if it were a place children congregated to play but I wouldn’t have the right to tell them to move on, would I?

I just think it's antisocial to deliberately take your pet (what wildlife may or may not do is irrelevant) to urinate on a nice space. There's no need for it. Take your pet somewhere else, or your own garden for toileting.
With the number of dogs around these days every single patch of grass has become a dog toilet. At least let other people enjoy the prettier, cleaner ones!

Pamcakey · 05/08/2025 07:13

Dogs aren’t generally allowed in museums or registry offices so that’s a moot point.
It’s a grass verge, where plenty of wild animals with be shitting and pissing, not a designated playground.

The fact that someone has taken it upon themselves to
maintain a public space, doesn’t mean other members of the public can’t use it as they see fit.

I mean if it were the grass verge outside my house, I’d hate it if it were a place children congregated to play but I wouldn’t have the right to tell them to move on, would I?

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