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Should residents be able to 'police' sections of their street?

318 replies

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:01

After just being shouted at by an incredibly rude and aggressive woman who barged out of her house to have a go at me for letting my dog wee on a patch of council owned grass at the end of her close I thought I would ask wise Mumsnetters their thoughts.

The woman who took it upon herself to police her street, and also, apparently, takes it upon herself to 'look after' this small patch of grass by planting a few geraniums in the middle, claims that because she looks after it and children play there sometimes I should not let my dog on it. Apparently my husband has "already been told not to use it" by her, so how dare I.

My thoughts are that children play in gardens and parks where dogs go all the time, that this is not her land, and that this is a convenient place for my dog to wee while we temporarily have no garden access due to building work. It is the closest bit of public grass we have, and I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away.

This has reminded me of many incidents I've been involved in or heard of over the years, often to do with parking spaces on public highways but outside someone's house.

Should residents be able to 'police' the use of the streets directly in front of or around their home? I think no, so AIBU? If you are one of the people that think I am unreasonable I'd love to hear why, and if you do this on your street do people abide by your demands?

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NebulouslyContemporaneous · 04/08/2025 13:29

“look £3 of planted flowers this bit’s mine now”

Lolol, that sounds like the exact grumpy neighbour equivalent of a dog weeing on a piece of land to claim it as their territory Grin

Digdongdoo · 04/08/2025 13:29

Why must your dog wee on a small patch of grass that someone is maintaining and where children play? Just take you dog anywhere else for a piss. There's no shortage of crappy verges about, pick a different one.
If your dog usually wees in the garden is it now weeing on this verge multiple times a day? In which case it will kill the grass...

verycloakanddaggers · 04/08/2025 13:29

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:25

I think this is the gist of it. She is 'that' neighbour.

I can't believe the aggression in some of the posts. Well, I can, it's Mumsnet. "Everything that's wrong with this world", "Entitled. Lazy". Some people are bizarre.

Why do you want to pick this fight?

It comes across that you're 'that neighbour'.

MissHollysDolly · 04/08/2025 13:29

Dogs have to go somewhere! She’s cray cray.

frozendaisy · 04/08/2025 13:28

ayepecking · 04/08/2025 13:25

Why don't people take pride in the neighbourhood anymore? The woman has planted on the grass and is trying to enhance the area. So fed up of dogs pissing everywhere.

Why plant flowers where dogs pee?

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 04/08/2025 13:27

frozendaisy · 04/08/2025 13:25

No not at all

you can’t just plant something on pubic space and then get rights to dictate usage

if you feel the desire to “brighten up the neighbourhood” then great but don’t expect teenage grunts not to pull flowers up, they do, r t be able to tell other users of the space what to do

and OP said she was aggressive, if she was all for the community perhaps a “ how about dogs pee here and kids play here”

but that’s not what has happened here, this is “look £3 of planted flowers this bit’s mine now”

calmly tell her it’s a public space, for all of us

But teenagers haven't ripped them up, the op and her husband are taking their dog out of their home to that specific patch of land to piss all over it.

verycloakanddaggers · 04/08/2025 13:27

Headingtowardsdivorce · 04/08/2025 13:24

A) a bit of dog pee on the grass is not going to destroy it

B) from the op: "I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away." So I'm presuming that's why the dog can't just pee on another verge.

No one thinks the pee will destroy the grass Hmm

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/08/2025 13:26

Headingtowardsdivorce · 04/08/2025 13:24

A) a bit of dog pee on the grass is not going to destroy it

B) from the op: "I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away." So I'm presuming that's why the dog can't just pee on another verge.

It does. Turns it brown.

NebulouslyContemporaneous · 04/08/2025 13:26

SoManyTshirts · 04/08/2025 13:04

Yes, you’re being unreasonable. Nobody likes their immediate environment stinking of piss.
I’m old enough to remember when dogs were taught to pee in the gutter, not express preferences.

There won't be a 'stink of piss' from dogs weeing on grass in an open space.

I'm in my 60s and I don't remember a time when anyone I knew taught their dogs to wee in the gutter. I also don't remember that ever being discussed at dog training classes.

I think your neighbour is probably being daft, OP. Unless your dog actually weed on the geraniums, or unless there are dozens and dozens of dogs weeing there every day, it doesn't strike me as being at all unreasonable to let your dog wee there.

I'm guessing that the addition of some dog wee to the combined urine of spiders, beetles, squirrels, foxes, birds etc, etc is not doing the neighbourhood kids any harm.

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:25

frozendaisy · 04/08/2025 13:15

there will be foxes and rats and cats and all sorts peeing near her geraniums

she just wants to intimidate people

I think this is the gist of it. She is 'that' neighbour.

I can't believe the aggression in some of the posts. Well, I can, it's Mumsnet. "Everything that's wrong with this world", "Entitled. Lazy". Some people are bizarre.

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frozendaisy · 04/08/2025 13:25

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 04/08/2025 13:18

If she's gone to the effort of making a patch of communal land nice then I think you could have encouraged your dog to move further along.

No not at all

you can’t just plant something on pubic space and then get rights to dictate usage

if you feel the desire to “brighten up the neighbourhood” then great but don’t expect teenage grunts not to pull flowers up, they do, r t be able to tell other users of the space what to do

and OP said she was aggressive, if she was all for the community perhaps a “ how about dogs pee here and kids play here”

but that’s not what has happened here, this is “look £3 of planted flowers this bit’s mine now”

calmly tell her it’s a public space, for all of us

ayepecking · 04/08/2025 13:25

Why don't people take pride in the neighbourhood anymore? The woman has planted on the grass and is trying to enhance the area. So fed up of dogs pissing everywhere.

Headingtowardsdivorce · 04/08/2025 13:24

verycloakanddaggers · 04/08/2025 13:19

But what kind of PITA has to let their dog pee on the one bit of grass someone is trying to make something of?

It's just pointlessly antagonistic. The dog can just pee on another verge.

Edited

A) a bit of dog pee on the grass is not going to destroy it

B) from the op: "I am currently injured and can't walk too far (although this is not a visible injury). My dog is prone to UTIs and likes to wee on grass rather than pavement, and often refuses to go if there is no grass. The next nearest patch of grass is an extra five minutes away." So I'm presuming that's why the dog can't just pee on another verge.

verycloakanddaggers · 04/08/2025 13:23

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:17

Quite, other people that live in the road are very pleasant and welcoming and stop for a chat. I live just round the corner so we are all familiar faces.

I think you need to ask yourself why you need to win this petty fight.

The woman's tried to make something a bit nicer, you want her to accept your dog's right to pee on it.

Whilst the law is on your side, I think you're the nightmare neighbour here.

ayepecking · 04/08/2025 13:23

SriouslyWhutNow · 04/08/2025 13:10

She's just asking you to not make her environment shit. Because it's not just one dog. It's dozens of dogs all day every day, and she's clearly fed up of it. Of course she obviously has no legal recourse or right to do it, but as a decent human being and a considerate adult you would be a bit of a dick to keep doing this having been asked to stop by someone who obviously cares a lot about it. It's not her problem you have a dog you apparently don't have facilities for and can't look after.

Yes. Exactly this.

ayepecking · 04/08/2025 13:20

YABU. Take your dog elsewhere. The council doesn't provide pissing greens for dogs. How rude.

BallerinaRadio · 04/08/2025 13:20

If you're taking your dog to this one specific piece of grass to use it as a toilet every time it needs to do... Yeah I can see her point of view actually it's a bit odd

SparklyGlitterballs · 04/08/2025 13:19

Legally she can't tell you whether you can or cannot use the grass for your dog. However I can sort of understand her viewpoint. She's trying to keep the bit of grass looking nice and dog urine can cause grass to go brown.

You seem to have a perfect storm of issues - your mobility problem, no garden access temporarily, your dog's UTI - that all mean you NEED to use this bit of grass. Maybe for the short period of disruption either your DH walks the dog to the further bit of grass or, if you have a car, drive a few minutes to the nearest park to let your dog do its business.

verycloakanddaggers · 04/08/2025 13:19

Headingtowardsdivorce · 04/08/2025 13:17

Kids can still play there...

But what kind of PITA has to let their dog pee on the one bit of grass someone is trying to make something of?

It's just pointlessly antagonistic. The dog can just pee on another verge.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 04/08/2025 13:18

If she's gone to the effort of making a patch of communal land nice then I think you could have encouraged your dog to move further along.

ShesTheAlbatross · 04/08/2025 13:18

ScholesPanda · 04/08/2025 13:15

In very hard nosed terms you're not being unreasonable. She doesn't own that land anymore than you.

Seriously though, this woman makes an effort to keep your street nice and your response is to let your dog pee on it?

You sum up everything that is wrong with this country.

I think your last sentence is a little harsh, but broadly I agree with your post.

HerdMentality · 04/08/2025 13:18

If kids play on public grass surely it’s done in the knowledge that some dog might have peed on it?

Your neighbour is being unreasonable.

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:17

PollyBell · 04/08/2025 13:10

Well if they were whose criteria would thry be going by? What one neighbour thinks is wrong another may think the opposite

Quite, other people that live in the road are very pleasant and welcoming and stop for a chat. I live just round the corner so we are all familiar faces.

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Headingtowardsdivorce · 04/08/2025 13:17

verycloakanddaggers · 04/08/2025 13:15

She's asking you to take your dog elsewhere to toilet so that kids can play there.

Do you have a good reason to say no? Can't your dog just be kept off that verge?

Edited

Kids can still play there...

StreetStrife · 04/08/2025 13:15

OhHellolittleone · 04/08/2025 13:10

Do you let it wee in your garden?

Yes if course, but I currently can't access my garden because of building work.

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