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Who seems to be unreasonable and greedy? Looking for unbiased opinions and perspectives.

161 replies

SequinTheDay · 04/08/2025 00:01

Indian family of 4 sons; father passed away leaving a will (registered and valid) splitting inheritance equally (25% each). Family migrated to the UK when kids were young.

  • 1st son: Rebellious, estranged from parents for years, had a love marriage parents didn’t support. Claims to have signed a document 4 decades ago renouncing inheritance (no copy exists). Wants his 25%, plans to pass it to his kids.
  • 2nd son: No contact with parents, divorced twice, parents still cared and loved him.
  • 3rd son: Family favourite, expected to inherit everything or at least exclude eldest brother. Divorced once, remarried recently.
  • 4th son: Follows 3rd son’s lead, divorced once, remarried recently.

Conflict: Eldest son’s brothers call him greedy/selfish for claiming his 25%. They thought inheritance would exclude him due to that old signed paper. Eldest wants to keep his share for his kids, not sell.

Question: Is the eldest son selfish for wanting the 25% left to him in the will?

YABU: Yes
YANBU: No

OP posts:
Strawberrryfields · 04/08/2025 07:37

I do actually think son 1 sounds greedy coming out of the woodwork after 40 years to claim money from his estranged family. Is he seeing it as some kind of compensation for his parents behaviour many years ago? He’s made his bed (presumably with you? So why shouldn’t he lie in it?)
Yes he’s in the will so it’s legally his but I don’t think he has some moral high ground here, he wants the money just as the others do and he’s conveniently ignoring the fact about denouncing the money as this doesn’t suit him now. At least son 3 has had some kind of relationship with his father the past 40 years not just popping up to get his money. I don’t think one is good and the other is bad, there is a lot of self-serving behaviour from both sides.

Jennaveeve · 04/08/2025 07:28

The OP sounds like the grabby one here. All the pearl clutching with the “swearing” 🤣 We get it, you want your children to get the money - but actually he made a big song and dance about renouncing it for his love match, but when it comes down to it, he just wants the cash, exactly the same as his brothers. And yet they are the embarrassing ones?

WhereIsMyLight · 04/08/2025 07:26

Your husband renounced his inheritance on marrying you. He decided any inheritance wasn’t worth it for the family he wanted to create with you. I can see how that is annoying to other siblings that this family, your children, now gets to inherit. Especially as all the others have presumably not had love marriages and arranged marriages. They’ve not had a choice in who they start a family with and have all been divorced at least once as a result. Don’t underestimate what seeing your older brother fall in love and choose between his love and his parents has done to make the younger brothers not consider falling in love and taking the arranged marriage.

That being said, your FIL obviously saw this as a making amends to you and your husband. You are both named in his will after he had 40 years to file the paperwork for disinheriting. Former wives aren’t included so presumably the will was made relatively recently or updated as divorces happened. It’s legally your husband’s inheritance and he can do what he likes with it. The will should be respected as that this your FIL’s last wish.

I don’t really think any of you, including your MIL and FIL, have behaved particularly well. All the sons are being greedy, just because your husband is passing it to your children, it doesn’t mean he isn’t greedy for keeping something he renounced 40 years ago. It’s a very sorry affair all round.

If your husband wants to keep a relationship with his family, he should apologise for making rash decisions about the inheritance when he was younger that he isn’t planning on keeping now he’s older. He should acknowledge the effect his choosing you over his parents had on his younger siblings and their likely marriage troubles. Say he feels that his dad was reaching out to make amends and he’s keeping it, end of. If he doesn’t want to keep the relationship going, block all their, change your numbers and go about your lives.

Scottishgirl85 · 04/08/2025 07:04

Son 1 has changed his mind re renouncing, now he sees the farce of arranged marriages in his family all leading to divorce. Whole family sounds awful, given the poor wife has no control over money following her husband's death.

Twiglets1 · 04/08/2025 06:59

It's natural and understandable that son 1 is thinking about his own children at this point and even if he did renounce the will verbally when younger, now he is older & more mature he is thinking about this from the point of view of his children's best interests.

Anyway, the will is the will and the father made his decision about how things should be split when he made the will. So if I were son 1 then I would be ignoring siblings and just sticking to the terms of the actual legal will.

DisforDarkChocolate · 04/08/2025 06:57

There is a will, the executors have no choice but to split it as stated.

TheAmusedQuail · 04/08/2025 06:56

SequinTheDay · 04/08/2025 01:00

It’s such a distressing situation because his Mum agrees with the 3rd son. She thinks he should have 100% of the estate. She doesn’t agree with the will either. But, everything was in her husbands name and not hers. So his to give.

Ahhhhhh. This is where the conflict comes in. Mummy is backing up favourite boy. OR is she working the relationship of the son who presumably looks after her? How old is she? In her 80s? Poor lady.

It strikes me, that due to the amount of divorce in the family, son one is looking like the responsible, dependable one, which is possibly why Dad has mentioned DS1's wife in the will, despite officially not approving of love marriage.

Scottishgirl85 · 04/08/2025 06:55

Sons 2,3,4 have all been divorced and sound like morons if they're fighting and swearing at each other over money, so none of them are squeaky clean from a traditional Indian perspective... Son 1 sounds the most sensible, ignoring wishes for arranged marriage, good for him. What do you mean by him being "rebellious"?! Will should be followed.

sesquipedalian · 04/08/2025 06:54

“father passed away leaving a will (registered and valid) splitting inheritance equally (25% each)”

Surely that should be an end of the matter. Irrespective of what the other brothers want, the father (whose money/land it was) has left it equally to all children. End of story. I can’t think any court would over-rule this, and indeed, the civil courts take a dim view of family squabbles and tend to bill accordingly. The person in all this who actually has cause to be put out is your father’s disinherited wife. As to the third son wanting the eldest son to sign over his share so he can leave it to his children, if I were the eldest son, I’d tell him to do one. And if I were the mother, I’d have nothing to do with the horrid son who threw her out, and I’m not sure why she’s taking the third son’s side when he and first son refused to have her either. My advice to you, OP, is to stop answering your phone to them - they can shout and swear all they like, but legally, they can do nothing.

TheAmusedQuail · 04/08/2025 06:39

If there is no documentation, he gets a share. It is what it is.

It strikes me that this shouldn't be the only conflict though. Bro 2, due to estrangement, also hasn't 'earned' his inheritance. If you have one rule, it surely has to be for all?

Unfair? Probably.

Lairymary · 04/08/2025 06:36

Yeah 4 ways is the fairest, but it's not that simple when greed comes in to it. If the will is all legal and above board and already processed, all you can do is block, ignore and get on with your lives, doesn't sound like any love lost. What's confusing me (unless I've got the wrong end of the stick) if son 1 was estranged because of his love marriage, how is it that the wife has been left land?

Starseeking · 04/08/2025 06:26

*their voice

Starseeking · 04/08/2025 06:25

You are obviously wife of the 1st son. Your DH is already estranged from his original family; I don’t understand why he’s giving headspace to any of his brothers’ diatribe. Any time they ring I’d just not answer if I saw it was them calling, or put it down as soon as I heard their vice if they called from an unknown number.

Disconnect from them and enjoy the land your FIL left you in peace, as your DC’s should also be free to enjoy their inheritance.

windyfarmers · 04/08/2025 06:17

SequinTheDay · 04/08/2025 01:55

LOL fair enough! The 3rd son is pissed because the eldest son wants to give equal share to his daughters and son, he believes daughters have no right to inheritance. Sorry if this is a drip feed! Not sure if it is or not.

In that case I'd leave it 50/50 to my daughters and my son an equal amount from my own estate just to piss him off!

windyfarmers · 04/08/2025 06:14

His father wanted him to have a share despite him relinquishing any right in a likely unenforceable, coerced document so tough. He then also has a right to do a deed of variation and pass it on to his children. Doesn't matter what the others want, why should he care? Let the golden boy throw his tantrum.

Cinaferna · 04/08/2025 06:12

Split it 4 ways, as stated in the document. Don't squabble with family over unearned income. They are all his sons. They all inherit. 1st son is honouring his plan not to inherit directly but wants his children to benefit from the family estate. Who wouldn't?

4 sons. 25% each. Problem solved.

PoppyFleur · 04/08/2025 06:06

@SequinTheDay it sounds to me like the parents caused the estrangement with the eldest son due to him marrying someone he loved, rather than who they chose/approved of. However, in the intervening years the other 3 sons have married and then divorced, whereas the eldest son’s marriage has endured. I suspect the father regretted his decision and made amends through the will be recognising the relationship and mentioning both the son and daughter in law in his will.

The elder son should ignore his brothers and reflect upon the message his father has delivered through the will; he is effectively recognising the harm caused, his role in the estrangement and apologising to his son, daughter in law and by extension, his grandchildren.

Daschund1 · 04/08/2025 06:06

I don't know why you bother asking. You have a position, think it's right and aren't changing it, regardless of whether YABU, so this is an exercise in futility.

Pipsquiggle · 04/08/2025 06:04

DS3 sounds like a real dickhead.

The most straightforward thing to do is follow the will.

Was the will written pre or post DS1 'disinheriting' himself? If after, DS3 literally doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Why does DS3 think daughter's shouldn't inherit? Is he a misogynist as well or is it just his nieces not his nephews he has an issue with?

StrictlyAFemaleFemale · 04/08/2025 05:50

Surely if the dad didn't want eldest to inherit he would have written his will to reflect that? He had 40 years to do so.

Weepixie · 04/08/2025 05:39

Two sons estranged from the family, 3 sons divorced, everyone at each others throat. It very much appears that the family were/are dysfunctional with a capital D and the parents probably have a lot to answer for. Hopefully the eldest will have enough sense to stop answering the phone to anyone and do what he wants to with his inheritance.

Op, you need to just let them all get on with it.

KingfisherAmmonite · 04/08/2025 05:30

He needs to stop picking up the phone.

If he hasn't sorted out his will already, he needs to.

Then refuse to engage whenever the topic comes up.

By continuing to get involved it's as if he also enjoys the drama.

Zanatdy · 04/08/2025 05:12

The family can protest all they like, but tough. He needs to keep them all blocked. He has every right to pass his inheritance onto his children.

99bottlesofkombucha · 04/08/2025 05:06

3rd son is a tosser and if I were his dad I’d have written him out of the will and given a share direct to any daughters he had. Eldest son should block (or record and send to police if they might listen) or say if you were a better son and looked after your mum this might not have happened. My share is going to my children. And I’d make sure that happens.

2 3 & 4 all sound pretty horrible people.

FluffykinsTheFerociousFeralFelineFury · 04/08/2025 04:47

SequinTheDay · 04/08/2025 01:16

Lol, if he can’t give it to his kids - he’d rather give the money to charity than give it to her or his brothers. She’s always hated him and resented him.

He’s most distressed by the swearing and shouting he’s receiving in phone calls. She’s in the background speaking/shouting too. However, it’s his brother mainly doing the phone calls.

Why is your husband taking the calls? Does he not understand how to use the block function, or cut off a call?