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To let DD14 drink at home

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Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 20:34

So lately DD has started to want to go further afield and there have been occasions she has drunk alcohol. She doesn't get drunk drunk bjt I worry about her being out and doing it. Her friends seem to want to go further snd further. Well tonight I felt uneasy about it a few things have happened and I worry about other people.
DD tends to be really honest and said her and her mates were planning to have a drink hence not wanting to stay home.
we agreeed her and her 3 friends could come here listen to music chill in the garden and have 2 glasses of low alcohol lambrini in the garden on the basis all parents knew. This is now happening and they are being great and I asked them to mix with lemonade too bjt can't help but think of done something wrong.

I was 13 and drinking cider and 20/20 and always in trouble being sick or In a vulnerable situation so I'm trying to avoid that whilst allowing a little teenage rebellion. As far as I can see it's legal I just worry I'm gonna have social services turn up now! My neighbour is also an arse so I'm worried he will report!

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Nerdynerdynerd · 03/08/2025 23:44

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 23:38

Yes so when you say they let you drink alochol
wad there rules and limitations on this or was it just goa head and drink what you like when you like. I'm just curious

Yes, plenty of rules and limitations. They were very pleased about their forward thinking parenting approach! My drinks were initially limited to peach schnapps and lemonade at first. My drinks were bought for me for house parties with the idea that's all I'd drink. Sips of wine at the dinner table from no age.

All very confidently explained that it was rather done under their roof safely. I was also in parks and under bridges! I didn't really feel I was rebelling either as it was permitted so I think that had the opposite effect as I went mad with permission and then some!

I still ended up drinking in an incredibly self destructive way and find there something icky about all the guidance and coaching about putting poison into my young body. Granted I started younger than your daughter at 12 but both still children.

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 23:38

Nerdynerdynerd · 03/08/2025 23:34

Sorry, not sure what you mean? Guidelines around at the time (medical guidelines) or do you mean they gave me guidelines (as in what or how much to drink)?

Yes so when you say they let you drink alochol
wad there rules and limitations on this or was it just goa head and drink what you like when you like. I'm just curious

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Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 23:37

Newstove · 03/08/2025 23:27

And the argument that you're supporting teenage rebellion - there's nothing rebellious about drinking wine your mum gives you!

You asked if you're unreasonable to give your child alcohol, but you're dismissing anyone who says it is unreasonable.

Please read the facts on teen drinking, they'll make you reassess what you're doing, and you can share the info with your daughter, so she understands why you're changing your mind, and that it's based on evidence.

No im not dismissing anyone who disagrees I am
dismissive of those who just simply state I am not parenting. I am very much parenting maybe in a different way but I am doing something and not sitting back.
I have actually found all the views helpful and as I said I asked as im not sure on my decision tonight and im
mot sure how to continue to proceed with this.we are at a really pivotal point and I want to do the right thing. The thing that really can't be ignored is all the research around impact on brain development

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Nerdynerdynerd · 03/08/2025 23:34

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 23:26

Out of interest can I ask if there were any guidelines around alcohol use from your parents at all?

Sorry, not sure what you mean? Guidelines around at the time (medical guidelines) or do you mean they gave me guidelines (as in what or how much to drink)?

Newstove · 03/08/2025 23:27

And the argument that you're supporting teenage rebellion - there's nothing rebellious about drinking wine your mum gives you!

You asked if you're unreasonable to give your child alcohol, but you're dismissing anyone who says it is unreasonable.

Please read the facts on teen drinking, they'll make you reassess what you're doing, and you can share the info with your daughter, so she understands why you're changing your mind, and that it's based on evidence.

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 23:26

Nerdynerdynerd · 03/08/2025 23:22

There's evidence that that kind of behaviour by parents actually increases the chances of risky drinking in children then adults.

My parents were the it's not taboo here, drinking under our roof type and I ended up drinking a lot for years and got myself into some very risky situations. I'm now 5 years sober.

It will be zero tolerance from me for my girls until they're 18.

Out of interest can I ask if there were any guidelines around alcohol use from your parents at all?

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Nerdynerdynerd · 03/08/2025 23:23

Double posted!

Nerdynerdynerd · 03/08/2025 23:22

There's evidence that that kind of behaviour by parents actually increases the chances of risky drinking in children then adults.

My parents were the it's not taboo here, drinking under our roof type and I ended up drinking a lot for years and got myself into some very risky situations. I'm now 5 years sober.

It will be zero tolerance from me for my girls until they're 18.

Newstove · 03/08/2025 23:12

14 is too young to give up on parenting your child.

Why do they want to drink - to pretend their older? So the cool kids will think they're cool too? To act as a social crutch to overcome shyness? To get pissed?

Whatever the reason is, you've condoned it, and they'll drink when you're not there to supervise.

In my day it was creepy older guys who'd buy teen girls drinks, not their parents.

You need to change the rules on this - tell your daughter that you've realised it's too young, there are good reasons, they've been linked by a pp.

And talk to her friends parents and share the info on the dangers of early drinking with them, and say you think you all need to rethink.

Your daughter is 14 - she shouldn't be hanging around the streets or parks at night. You should know where she is - which at night should be a friends house or youth group, and she should have a curfew.

It's not a choice between getting blackout drunk at a party or drinking wine with her friends in her back garden. Not drinking is an option.

I started drinking at 17, and drank a lot in college, getting myself into some very risky situations, and coming across creepy guys who say drunk girls as easy targets, which lets face it, drunk girls are!

Younger drunk girls don't have the maturity to get out of dangerous situations - they want to appear mature, or they don't know how to extricate themselves. It's why grooming gangs get the girls drunk.

If you've read the evidence on young drinking you'll know that early drinking at home leads to more early drinking outside the home, so your daughter will end up in risky situations, which she hasn't the maturity to cope with.

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 23:12

SallyDraperGetInHere · 03/08/2025 22:53

Exactly. It’s not an either or. OP’s DD and her friends may drink nicely and moderately on the diluted lambrini in the garden when on show to the adults, and still sneak around with a topped up bottle of Fanta and vodka the next night. All the more reason to not contribute to her consumption. And I wouldn’t let my child go there if I knew.

Well if that's the case then it's still a win as I have cut wheatever aldpchol she would drink by allowing one of her socialising nights round here. As I say I am preventing her from hanging around down the park etc so she won't actually have the opportunity to get off her head on vodka. The idea is that of alcohol is to be factor then it's taught how to use it safely - snd to take away the want to go sit down the park and do all that. Maybe I am wrong for this but my intention is to prevent her from coming to any harm and like the above poster says giving space for somw teenage rebellion which is normal. I'm always shocked at parents from the zero tolerance of anything tribe who are so judgemental around any other ways of doing anything and resort to name calling and making out that others aren't parenting when it doesn't match what they think!

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CaramelGhost · 03/08/2025 23:06

Not right IMO. You're giving the green light on on alcohol and they won't care if it's with or without you. 16 maybe, 14, wow.

Icanttakethisanymore · 03/08/2025 23:05

I’m torn on this; I was drinking at her age, and getting in a bit of a mess. I’ve gone on to have a pretty bad relationship with alcohol for some periods of my life. I never drank at home. Would I have been better off if my mum had done what you did? I’m not sure to be honest. I might have avoided a few unsafe situations though.

SallyDraperGetInHere · 03/08/2025 23:03

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 23:01

None of them really drank more than 1! They were absolutely fine I think more than anything they wanted somewhere to go and just chill!

In which case … why throw in the alcohol? Would they not have been just as happy with pizza and cupcakes?

Ohthatsmeback · 03/08/2025 23:03

waterrat · 03/08/2025 22:57

@ohthatsmeback im not at all nostalgic . I remember being violently sick after drinking in parks in the dark at 13 and 14 snd I absolutely hate the idea of my kids doing it

I think its wise and caring to have them enjoying a little alcohol experiment in the garden while under the supervision of caring adults

I don't see how teaching 14 year olds they need alcohol to enjoy themselves is the action of a " caring " adult.
They are children.

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 23:01

RigIt · 03/08/2025 22:38

Of course it fine OP. A much better/safer option if she goes for it. Personally at her age I’d have gone out anyway and I’d have not wanted this, but if she and her friends are happy then that’s great. People saying no alcohol at all are being ridiculous. Completely banning doesn’t work. (And giving teens something to rebel against). Just look at the “just say no” campaigns and war on drugs and the prohibition. Banning is completely ineffective.

None of them really drank more than 1! They were absolutely fine I think more than anything they wanted somewhere to go and just chill!

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Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 22:57

SpandauValet · 03/08/2025 22:23

Haven’t RTFT but assume it’s been mentioned that’s not going to stop her drinking elsewhere? She will just drink at home, feel like she knows what she’s doing as she’s allowed to do it.. and then have an absolute skinful elsewhere? It doesn’t control how much she’s drinking, it increases how much she’s drinking.

So as I have said this is the first time. It certainly isn't going to be a regular oh we drink at home
now - i

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waterrat · 03/08/2025 22:57

@ohthatsmeback im not at all nostalgic . I remember being violently sick after drinking in parks in the dark at 13 and 14 snd I absolutely hate the idea of my kids doing it

I think its wise and caring to have them enjoying a little alcohol experiment in the garden while under the supervision of caring adults

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 22:56

Dippythedino · 03/08/2025 22:18

My kids are 13 and 15 and have not expressed an interest in drinking, we're both teetotal as well. Alcohol isn't part of our social circle so it's easy to avoid, you can socialise without drinking. Lots of cultures around the world do not place an importance on alcohol.

I don't drink either haven't done for a a good 16 years. DD does lots of clubs etc

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waterrat · 03/08/2025 22:55

I was puking in parks at this age from cider and putting myself in harms way

I think its so vital we give teens spaces to hang out and take small risks. Or they will find their own spaces and take really big risks

Elizvicky · 03/08/2025 22:55

JaninaDuszejko · 03/08/2025 22:14

14 is young but you've taken the most sensible route of controlling the consumption and making them safe. A conversation with her about the impact of alcohol on brain development at a young age and asking her to think about a sensible frequency of drinking for her at 14 might be helpful as well. Say you know she's going to want to drink and as long as all the parents are in agreement you are OK with occasional drinking but e.g. not every weekend until she's an adult. My eldest DD came up with a 'birthday parties only' which worked out as less than once a month (and they were drinking Smirnoff Ice which is only 4% - her other rule was 'premixed drinks only'). Teenagers can be quite sensible if given the chance to think about what they are doing, the kids that were completely banned from drinking were the ones that were completely irresponsible.

FWIW I'd love to know how old the children of the disapproving posters are (and how many kids they have, mine have different attitudes to alcohol). It's easy to say 'I wouldn't allow that' but teenagers need a collaborative approach so you get buy in to your rules.

I do agree. I have a friend who says her zero tolerance and we just have to oarent them but I know her child goes to school
snd drinks alcohol in the toilets or at least says she does. Im not saying every child will be hell bent on doing it but I do know mine probably would. Tonight she's not even drank the full 2 glasses I agreed.

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SallyDraperGetInHere · 03/08/2025 22:53

Corfumanchu · 03/08/2025 22:03

I am baffled as towht so many parents think that drinking watered down lambrinis at home, and necking vodka in the park or at a party, are mutually exclusive.

Exactly. It’s not an either or. OP’s DD and her friends may drink nicely and moderately on the diluted lambrini in the garden when on show to the adults, and still sneak around with a topped up bottle of Fanta and vodka the next night. All the more reason to not contribute to her consumption. And I wouldn’t let my child go there if I knew.

Ohthatsmeback · 03/08/2025 22:51

I find it strange on these threads the number of posters who talk as though it's the norm for teenagers to go off drinking with their pals at an extremely young age. And are nostalgic about their own underage drinking.

Personally I think I had a glass or two of wine at home with my parents before I was 18 but never drank with my friends. And similarly my friends possibly were allowed a taste of alcohol at home. But none of us went off to the park to booze .
My son and his friends were the same. A taste of alcohol with their families but no illegal trips to the pub or boozing in the park.
What is missing in the lives of these children that they feel they have to drink alcohol at 14 to enjoy themselves?

AlertEagle · 03/08/2025 22:46

Nope too young and no there is no proof she wont have issues with alcohol later on.

thatsthatsaidthemayor · 03/08/2025 22:45

I’d rather she drank at home than in the park alcohol needs a gradual controlled introduction. That’s what the rest of wurope do.

ThreenagerCentral · 03/08/2025 22:42

I think you’re parenting pragmatically. They’re going to drink and they’re going to be vulnerable when they do so. You can’t stop this. But by providing a safe space for them you’re limiting the harm. You’re also preventing your daughter from establishing a routine of lying to you. It’s not ideal and I’m sure you’ll have people criticise you for it, but I would make the same choice in your shoes.

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