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To be so upset people think we left without paying?

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ShownOnCCTV · 03/08/2025 19:52

Went for Sunday Lunch - have been to the pub many times before.

15 of us celebrating a birthday - balloon for the birthday girl.

Spent a lot- three courses, plenty of alcohol as well always do - all this is irrelevant but want to put the whole picture - left a 15% tip- service/food/ everything was excellent as always.

Have just been made aware of a FB post, CCTV picture of a couple standing by our table, all of us in full view - with a big post from the owner of the pub saying that these people left without paying please find them

Below this is text saying how hard it is to run a pub without people doing a runner and in this wall of text it says 'the people at the table are not involved '

Cue loads of people saying- 'its a kids 10th birthday it can't be hard to find them'
'scum, who goes for a birthday and doesn't pay'
'great pictures, easy to find then- and a link to my work page'

I have rung up and asked them to take the post down - they refuse
I have asked them to blur our images they refuse.

My son has just had someone ring him asking him why didn't we pay.

I have posted on the page asking them to remove our images and that we have proof we paid but still nothing.

Owner is responding to other posts on the page so must have seen mine. Just saying how hard it is for people to walk without paying (I'm sure it is, but we are booked for next week- 20 people, but I shall now go elsewhere)

AIBU to be so upset about this- so many comments thinking we are thieves.

OP posts:
Gingercar · 03/08/2025 21:17

What on earth is wrong with them?! I have a hospitality business. If something like this happened I would be mortified that someone innocent was getting blamed and abused on my business page. The first thing I would do is edit the post to say in capitals at the top that the family in the photo are not involved and I was very sorry that I had accidentally made it look like they were. I would then either blur them out of the photo or draw a ring around the actual thieves. I just don’t understand why they are just leaving it up. It doesn’t take much intelligence to work out they’re creating a big mess!

Is there a local area community facebook group? I’d be inclined to put my own post on there saying how upset you are to be shown on the picture at the pub where they are complaining about people leaving without paying. Add a photo of your receipt and say that you have quite obviously got proof of payment and you have contacted the establishment to show them your proof, but the establishment are refusing to blur your family in the photo, despite knowing that you are being criticised by many people on the post. They have added a small edit to the middle of the text saying it is not you, but it is too little too late and barely noticeable. Say that you and your family are hurt and distressed by the establishment’s treatment. It’s completely marred your experience and they have lost any future custom.

Fortheloveofgodwhy · 03/08/2025 21:14

best thing you can do is rally around your fb friends, and ask them to reply explaining it isn’t you and like the replies where you have replied and said it isn’t you. Change the algorithm in your favour.

Laura95167 · 03/08/2025 21:14

i think its a crime to share CCTV of people not involved in the incident.

I definitely wouldnt go back.

Id contact them to cancel your next booking, advise them you are getting harassed at work and theyre sharing pictures of your underage child without consent and as you have proof you've paid, evidence they've refuse to remove the post or blur you image you'll take legal action against them

Id also put their disgusting behaviour all over their FB

Their attempts to catch 2 thieves has cost them the patronage of 20 decent customers

tothelefttotheleft · 03/08/2025 21:09

People who keep saying you should sue-

Have any of you got any idea of the cost this would be?! It's madness to suggest this.

Motherbear44 · 03/08/2025 21:09

notatinydancer · 03/08/2025 20:17

I’d post a copy of your receipt.

I would not do this. Why should you be telling everyone else what you spent and open your family up for judgement from all the trollers about what they ate.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 03/08/2025 21:08

ShownOnCCTV · 03/08/2025 20:52

Thanks, I thought there was laws around sharing CCTV

If they're using CCTV in a public, commercial space, they should have a Date Protection Impact Assessment in place. An image is a form of biometric data, so they have shared your special category data publicly.

It would generally be considered difficult to obtain individual consent to public CCTV, however, they should have documented their purposes for collecting, retaining and sharing personal data.

Putting random background individuals (inc. children's data of under 13yo) on a third party platform would not meet a purpose required for the organisation (in fact, naming and shaming the individuals themselves is a bit questionable in itself).

Isittimeformynapyet · 03/08/2025 21:07

Screenager · 03/08/2025 19:58

Do you have proof that you paid?

And thisis a perfect illustration of how this shit happens.

I know this has been pointed out already but I feel it bears repeating.

GhostOrchid · 03/08/2025 21:05

livingoverseasproblems · 03/08/2025 20:45

Surely libel doesn't apply as the pub HAVE stated that they weren't the ones to not pay?

No, it’s a libel and the picture needs to be taken down and a public apology issued.

The publishing of the photo with the caption is the libel. There are only three defences against libel and none of them apply here.

Spies · 03/08/2025 21:03

jollygreenpea · 03/08/2025 21:01

They did, it's just people haven't read it. They have read the headline and assumed it's the op.

The poster means it should literally be the first thing in the accompanying message. Rather than these people didn't pay it's awful etc please help us were just a small business blah blah blah oh and we don't mean all those people at the table who are the main part of the picture we just mean these two at the edge of the table. It's deliberately misleading.

Isittimeformynapyet · 03/08/2025 21:03

Secretsquirels · 03/08/2025 20:10

I think that I would post some proof that you have paid (receipt, bank screen shot etc), with a shitty message saying something like:

“I appreciate that it must be very hard for pubs when someone walks out without paying. But our group are loyal customers who have always paid for our meals and have still somehow ended up in this photo online. We have contacted you privately with proof that we paid and you have refused to take down this post so I am now sharing the proof publicly and asking you publicly to take down this photo of myself and our children from this public forum. I will also be cancelling our booking for 20 next week.”

That's fine, but change "this photo of myself.." to "this photo of me.."

MoneyTaIks · 03/08/2025 21:03

This is annoying but if it clearly states the table aren't involved I'd just point that out to anybody who asks.

Hattieandcake · 03/08/2025 21:02

Get everyone you know to report the post to Facebook.

agree with threatening legal action it’s defamation of character.

jollygreenpea · 03/08/2025 21:01

CoastalCalm · 03/08/2025 20:52

He needs to put that fact you aren’t involved first in his text

They did, it's just people haven't read it. They have read the headline and assumed it's the op.

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 21:01

ShownOnCCTV · 03/08/2025 20:15

@ButtSurgery thanks - I've put something similar but not as clear so might repost what you have put.

Can you contact the staff running the Facebook page and ask them to step in OP?

Whyherewego · 03/08/2025 20:57

ShownOnCCTV · 03/08/2025 20:50

That's how I feel. So disappointed. We had a lovely time, I just don't understand why they couldn't blur us out.

@verycloakanddaggers I am not even sure the owner is there- I have never met them, it is run by a very capable couple day to day.

@Chonk thanks but hoping this all disappears rather than has more comments.

I think those saying it isn't libel as they have said it isn't us are right- but it is so wrong

Agreed. That's really a horrible thing to have happen. I'd report the photo to Facebook myself as well.

RaininSummer · 03/08/2025 20:57

Is there a way Facebook can remove a post which causes harassment?

Wackadaywideawake · 03/08/2025 20:55

Solicitor’s letter and local media first thing tomorrow.

ByQuaintAzureWasp · 03/08/2025 20:55

Go direct to the brewery tomorrow. Check your house insurance for legal cover and if necessary get a solicitor.

Meanwhile, constantly list pictures of your receipt/bank payment.

Spies · 03/08/2025 20:54

livingoverseasproblems · 03/08/2025 20:45

Surely libel doesn't apply as the pub HAVE stated that they weren't the ones to not pay?

I'm not sure a small sentence hidden in a bulk of text absolves them when they've posted multiple pictures of people who didn't pay and the OP and her family are in all of them.

CoastalCalm · 03/08/2025 20:52

He needs to put that fact you aren’t involved first in his text

ThisTicklishFatball · 03/08/2025 20:52

The people responsible for the pictures, videos and posts are refusing to communicate with you. Report the content to the online platforms as targeted harassment against you. Consult a solicitor to begin the process of filing a lawsuit. They are misusing your image to make others believe you are guilty of something you can prove you didn’t do. This public exposure puts you at risk of attacks both online and in real life.

ShownOnCCTV · 03/08/2025 20:52

Bigoldmoneypit · 03/08/2025 20:46

I am work in data protection law, happy to help you out if you need me to write something

Thanks, I thought there was laws around sharing CCTV

OP posts:
ShownOnCCTV · 03/08/2025 20:50

SonK · 03/08/2025 20:44

Hey OP, I would be so disappointed - surely they can blur you all out.
Escalate it further if they don't respond to you with an appropriate solution

That's how I feel. So disappointed. We had a lovely time, I just don't understand why they couldn't blur us out.

@verycloakanddaggers I am not even sure the owner is there- I have never met them, it is run by a very capable couple day to day.

@Chonk thanks but hoping this all disappears rather than has more comments.

I think those saying it isn't libel as they have said it isn't us are right- but it is so wrong

OP posts:
LegalllyBrunette · 03/08/2025 20:49

Screen shot the posts in case you want to complain or take action

FloofyBird · 03/08/2025 20:49

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/08/2025 20:42

A pub has been forced to pay £75,000 to a family that were falsely accused of not paying for a meal.

A Facebook post from the Horse and Jockey in Tideswell, Derbyshire, condemned the behaviour of Peter and Ann McGirr, who had been dining at the pub with their two adult children.

And that's relevant how exactly?