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To think my cleaner shouldn’t bring her own child to work?

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Informercera · 03/08/2025 10:43

I’m really torn on this and would love some outside perspective.

We’ve had the same cleaner for just over a year and she’s been fantastic, reliable, thorough, really kind and trustworthy. We’ve always got on well and I genuinely like her. But over the past few weeks, since the summer holidays started, she’s been bringing her 10 year old daughter with her when she comes to clean.

Her daughter isn’t badly behaved at all. She just sits quietly on the sofa in our living room watching things on an iPad. Sometimes I hear little giggles or the sound of whatever she’s watching, but she’s not running around or causing chaos or anything like that.

Still, I’m finding it awkward. I work from home and I’m usually upstairs on Zoom calls or writing reports, and it just feels a bit strange knowing there’s a child downstairs while her mum is hoovering or mopping the floors. I don’t have children myself and I suppose I’m not used to having someone else’s in my personal space. It changes the dynamic a bit and makes it feel less like a professional service. I also can’t help worrying about the what ifs - what if something broke or she hurt herself? Would I be responsible?

I completely understand that school holidays are a nightmare for working parents and childcare is expensive. I don’t want to be unsympathetic. I haven’t said anything to her yet because I don’t want to come across as precious or unkind. But equally I’m paying for a service and this isn’t what I signed up for.

AIBU to feel uncomfortable about this and consider raising it gently with her? Or should I just let it go for a few more weeks until the holidays are over? I want to be fair but I also feel a bit blindsided. Would love to know what others think.

OP posts:
Thanksman · 03/08/2025 18:48

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:45

I don't know.

Just as no one knows the DM's financials or her childcare situation or if she is a single parent and many, many other assumptions pp's have made.

You seem to be missing the point that if a family is poor, they can still have items brought for them from other family members and/or friends.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 03/08/2025 18:46

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 18:43

It’s basic common sense and necessary. In this situation the cleaner hasn’t asked if her child can stay at the OP’s house whilst she works there so I don’t think she’ll be declaring if her kid breaks something.

Or stealing….. don’t forget that!!

You assume a lot of stuff don’t you! The OP says the cleaner is trustworthy after all.

Again, the cleaner is surely much more likely to break something, than a child of 10 sitting still for a couple of hours a week, during just the summer holidays?

So, do you think OP has asked for the cleaners insurance?

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:45

BlankBlankBlank14 · 03/08/2025 18:43

So you know how that the IPAD was paid for by the DM? Or just more whataboutery on this thread?

Just why would you even say it?

I don't know.

Just as no one knows the DM's financials or her childcare situation or if she is a single parent and many, many other assumptions pp's have made.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 03/08/2025 18:43

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:41

I wasn't hinting at anything, I outright said that the cleaner might not be struggling as much as some pp's think since her child has an ipad which don't come cheap. This was in response to agreeing with a pp about responding to someone suggesting a box of crafts and colouring stuff for her daughter like the OP's cleaner is some kind of charity case.

Edited

So you know how that the IPAD was paid for by the DM? Or just more whataboutery on this thread?

Just why would you even say it?

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 18:43

BlankBlankBlank14 · 03/08/2025 18:30

It’s stupid to be so overly anxious that you can’t risk assess.

Do you honestly think OP has checked the insurance of her cleaner, who is more likely to break or steal something than the 10 year old?

Really?

It’s basic common sense and necessary. In this situation the cleaner hasn’t asked if her child can stay at the OP’s house whilst she works there so I don’t think she’ll be declaring if her kid breaks something.

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:41

redjeans28 · 03/08/2025 18:38

It was an awful comment to make. It's very clear the point you were hinting at.

I wasn't hinting at anything, I outright said that the cleaner might not be struggling as much as some pp's think since her child has an ipad which don't come cheap. This was in response to agreeing with a pp about responding to someone suggesting a box of crafts and colouring stuff for her daughter like the OP's cleaner is some kind of charity case.

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 18:41

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:38

I clearly disagree. That's exactly what you were trying to do though.

No I wasn’t, in the context of this thread it was a ridiculous comment to make.

redjeans28 · 03/08/2025 18:38

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:34

It's a valid point considering the assumptions the cleaner is poor. You aren't the thread police.

It was an awful comment to make. It's very clear the point you were hinting at.

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:38

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 18:35

It is not a valid point. Ah, the old ‘thread police’ jargon.

I clearly disagree. That's exactly what you were trying to do though.

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 18:35

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:34

It's a valid point considering the assumptions the cleaner is poor. You aren't the thread police.

It is not a valid point. Ah, the old ‘thread police’ jargon.

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 03/08/2025 18:34

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:17

Not to mention the fact that the child has an ipad and they don't come cheap.

🙄

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:34

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 18:32

It was a ridiculous and judgemental statement and has no place on this thread.

It's a valid point considering the assumptions the cleaner is poor. You aren't the thread police.

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · 03/08/2025 18:33

She really should’ve asked. The arrangement is that she comes to clean your home, not that she brings any friends, family, children or pets etc with her for the duration so she certainly should’ve never have assumed that you’re fine with a child sitting in your living room for a few hours. That said, it’s clear she has no childcare options, that she’d probably not be able to work if she couldn’t bring her child, and that she’s being responsible by not leaving her alone. You have to weigh up how good she is as a cleaner and if you’d want the hassle of raising this and potentially losing her. The delicate way to raise it might be to say something like, ‘Has your daughter always come to work with you during the holidays? I didn’t realise this was going to happen. We need to discuss it as I work from home and there will be some days that this won’t work for me.’

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 18:32

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:30

I think it is when several pp's have assumed that she can't afford childcare and as I was responding to, suggesting OP to give her snacks and a box of colouring stuff and the such like.

It was a ridiculous and judgemental statement and has no place on this thread.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 03/08/2025 18:30

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 18:20

I keep at thought on the legal and insurance aspects. It’s stupid to ignore these.

It’s stupid to be so overly anxious that you can’t risk assess.

Do you honestly think OP has checked the insurance of her cleaner, who is more likely to break or steal something than the 10 year old?

Really?

AngelRoja · 03/08/2025 18:30

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:20

Or maybe OP's cleaner isn't as poor as some pp's think.

Truth is, no one knows for sure.

Some people think poorer people shouldnt have televisión or mobile phones and wear rags too, but that doesnt make them right. We are not living in the 18th century anymore.

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:30

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 18:27

That’s right but mentioning an iPad is pretty redundant.

I think it is when several pp's have assumed that she can't afford childcare and as I was responding to, suggesting OP to give her snacks and a box of colouring stuff and the such like.

BlankBlankBlank14 · 03/08/2025 18:28

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/08/2025 18:22

There is only a certain amount of hours that a home cleaner can do, it is a vigorous job, full on from start to finish, even very fit cleaners would find 8 hours/3 clients extremely hard work in a day.

Absolutely agree with you!

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:28

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 03/08/2025 18:22

The narrative is that she has brought her child to work and that, presumably, if she didn’t have to do that, she wouldn’t. The OP can either choose to be kind/ compassionate or not. She may find herself having to do the cleaning herself but hey ho.

Or maybe now that her child is older, she is simply just trying to avoid paying for holiday clubs in the summer.

It could be several things and isn't necessarily that the cleaner can't afford childcare. Especially since she's cleaned for OP for a year and this is the first school holidays where she has seen the child.

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 18:27

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 18:20

Or maybe OP's cleaner isn't as poor as some pp's think.

Truth is, no one knows for sure.

That’s right but mentioning an iPad is pretty redundant.

redjeans28 · 03/08/2025 18:27

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 18:11

Heres some news for you - accidents happen - this means that the breakage wasn’t intentional. Have you broken something unintentionally? Of course you have and the same for your family members and friends.

Here's some new for you too. Most responsible parents (which the cleaner clearly is) would talk to their children and tell them not to be touching anything in someone else's house. The girl is sitting on a couch, she's not racing round like a toddler. You seem to be another one who imagines danger/accidents everywhere.

AngelRoja · 03/08/2025 18:24

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 18:16

Those saying that the cleaner isn’t paid enough - how much do you pay your cleaner if you have one (I don’t) and why do you choose to pay what you think is pennies instead of a living wage?

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Even if you pay a decent rate, cleaning is usually unstable work. 2 hours here, a journey to the next one then another two hours etc etc. Probably no paid holidays or national insurance. It's not the same as a monthly wage where you do the same job for 40 hours a week. I always say that is can be a lot to pay but not much to earn.

Twinkletoes127 · 03/08/2025 18:24

x2boys · 03/08/2025 10:53

So would posters be just as happy if a plumber,electrician, builder also brought their child to work🤔

Yes, why wouldn't I. If someone is working at my house, I wouldn't care a less

Wilfulignoranceabounds · 03/08/2025 18:22

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:22

People need to decide on their narrative either she's a Penniless cleaner who can't afford childcare or she has tons of clients and csn pick and choose who she cleans for and therefor put her child in appropriate childcare.

The narrative is that she has brought her child to work and that, presumably, if she didn’t have to do that, she wouldn’t. The OP can either choose to be kind/ compassionate or not. She may find herself having to do the cleaning herself but hey ho.

EmeraldShamrock000 · 03/08/2025 18:22

BlankBlankBlank14 · 03/08/2025 18:19

£18 per hr

There is only a certain amount of hours that a home cleaner can do, it is a vigorous job, full on from start to finish, even very fit cleaners would find 8 hours/3 clients extremely hard work in a day.

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