To think my cleaner shouldn’t bring her own child to work?

Why? Just let her bring the child. You are so privileged you have no clue what life is like for normal people

Not rtft but people with cleaners don’t really have a clue what it’s like for normal people. What the hell is wrong with her bringing her kid. Clean your own mess up if you don’t like it. Can’t stand people who think they’re above cleaning and tidying and make someone else do it for them.

Ah - you speak about yourself there.
I have explained. My property is my space and if anyone wants to use my property they need to ask me. The op has had her cleaner turn up with her kid unannounced and used the ops sitting room and all without asking. That’s a red flag for me - trust gone. Damage is always a possibility as accidents happen. I’m still waiting to read how a cleaner and a cleaners child are magically protected against accidents. Theft - how do you know that this child or cleaner won’t take something? Hopefully they won’t but my trust in them has gone. As I wrote I have friends who couldn’t prove it was their cleaner who stole from them. I bet that your response would be ..ah bless them, they must have needed it.
I don’t have a cleaner and why is that? Answer is - I don’t need one. It’s quite amazing how the insurance aspect is trashed by you and others. It’s all nice and fluffy and bless them until something is damaged/broken or a physical accident happens.

Quite agree.

Why not provide entrainment for your imaginary cleaners imaginary child too?

You’ve said everything I wanted to say.

And the very least the cleaner should have done is to ASK if she could bring her child along. It’s increasingly rude - and arrogant - to just show up with the child in tow, as if she’s entitled to bring her.

I'm not being ridiculous. I just think it's a small thing that would really make that child's day. Why slate me for that??

It seems difficult for you to explain, you can’t.

You”ve decided that because someone might do something you don’t like, make a choice you don’t agree with, that it follows that they’re dishonest in all aspects and will steal, lie etc.

So because this cleaner took her child to work with her without asking, you think she’ll let that child break something and not disclose it, or that her child is likely to be a thief.

Really, all because she took a decision that you think (lots of people disagree) is the wrong one.

Apart from the above being totally judgemental, the chances of accident or theft are vanishingly small,

Anyway, must go, I need to check my cleaners PI insurance, make sure they’re covered in case they self combust in my property setting it alight!

Do you or have you ever had a cleaner? Or are the potential risks to great?

YABU. Don't you think if your cleaner had a viable alternative childcare solution she would be using it?

If you do bring it up with her, you're only going to make it impossible for this woman to continue to work for you over the summer, because her only option will be to stop working for you until her child goes back to school in September. She'll probably find an alternative client who doesn't mind her bringing her (quiet, well behaved, unobtrusive) child with her, and you'll lose your "reliable, kind, trustworthy" cleaner, just because you couldn't grasp how difficult and expensive it is to arrange childcare for the whole of the school holidays. Just leave it, it makes literally no difference to you, but a world of difference to your cleaner.

She should have asked of course OP, but personally I would extend some grace to a quiet and well behaved child of a mother who is clearly doing her best.

Holiday childcare is expensive and doesn’t always open early or late enough to make sense in the kind of role where you are only paid for the hours you are ‘on a job’ and therefore requires a very long disjointed day to pay the bills. I can remember every single one of the managers I have had who have had the generosity of spirit to make it a little easier as I tried to juggle my children and work.

Totally different story if the child was noisy, disruptive or was so young that they inevitably required divided focus.

I would request headphones are bought, but otherwise ‘offer it up’ as my grandfather used to say.

I was just about to post - years ago, I had a tiler who brought his son to work when I was having my bathroom done.
I think the lad would have been 8 or 9 at the time. He helped his dad in the morning for a while, then I let him play with some of DSs Lego after lunch.

No issues at all.

She just turned up with her child and didn't ask in advance.

The suggestion (that someone made,) that someone very likely bought the ipad for the cleaner's daughter (as she is probably so poor that she cannot afford childcare!) is both laughable, and offensive in equal measures.

The ipad umis a red herring. Maybe the ckeaner is loaded and bought the latest ipad . Maybe she isnt and got one from Cash Converter / fb market place etc. Who knows

And also, anyone who is close enough to a child to buy her an ipad, is close enough to her to look after her whilst her mother is at work! (Particularly in an emergency/in the school holidays, which appears to be the case here.)
Another daft comment.
Maybe nan and grandad bought it and they are at work/ ill/ live miles away. Again, who knows. Maybe who has bought it is not in her life anymore.

*And the suggestion that the OP should entertain the child and buy snacks and drinks for her is farcical.
I agree with this.

*Aparting from being incredibly cheeky and presumptuous to say the OP should do that, it's incredibly patronising and 'othering' - suggesting the cleaner can't afford to feed her own child. Indeed.

Hang on did the Daughter just show up one day. I assume she mentioned it in advance and you had the Op to object well in advance so she could arrange care or reschedule cleans for when she had a carer for her child?

I brought up the fact that she seemed to have managed childcare just fine for the past year including potentially a summer holiday but apparently that's an unkind assumption.

I completely agree with you.

Yes, no issue with it if child is not in the way and causing a nuisance, it's fine.
Summer hols can be an absolute nightmare for all parents.

Exactly this @SouthLondonMum22 The suggestion (that someone made,) that someone very likely bought the ipad for the cleaner's daughter (as she is probably so poor that she cannot afford childcare!) is both laughable, and offensive in equal measures.

And also, anyone who is close enough to a child to buy her an ipad, is close enough to her to look after her whilst her mother is at work! (Particularly in an emergency/in the school holidays, which appears to be the case here.)

And the suggestion that the OP should entertain the child and buy snacks and drinks for her is farcical. Aparting from being incredibly cheeky and presumptuous to say the OP should do that, it's incredibly patronising and 'othering' - suggesting the cleaner can't afford to feed her own child.

As has been said, cleaners earn LOADS, and it's a skilled profession. The way some posters are acting like the cleaner is some kind of charity case is embarrassing and insulting. And the way being a cleaner is portrayed by some posters as a 'humble lowly job' is utterly cringeworthy! Some posters are really showing their ignorance on this thread!

Also, who on earth has been looking after said child for the past YEAR? The cleaner has managed to find childcare all this time... No way should anyone be taking their child to work, especially without ASKING FIRST!

As I said, batshit thread. Parallel world of Mumsnet strikes again! 😬

Exactly!

Oh do say what I’m implying… it’ll be a laugh. I ready for your rubbish.
It’s clear you can’t understand basic ideas - seriously give your head one big long wobble.

Good luck with finding affordable public liability insurance for that situation . . .

No no no. You specifically said "she didn't ask". You have been asked by different posters to explain the correlation to theft. You clearly can't explain it and instead you're dodging answering it. We know what you're implying.

How nice of you to know your cleaner scrubbed your floors as their humble job and that you listened understandingly about them making sacrifices to fulfill their school requirement to buy computers for her kids. So kind hearted. Did you pay a pittance or did you pay a good wage for the tough job of cleaning your place?

Tough one - have a think. Someone using your place and trust. There’s damage and breakages to think of as well.

I seems difficult for you to follow the discussion. I can’t explain it in any other simpler terms for you. Hopefully someone will explain the connection between your place being used without asking and the concept of trust.

I suppose on the plus side it's only for the summer holidays