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To think my cleaner shouldn’t bring her own child to work?

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Informercera · 03/08/2025 10:43

I’m really torn on this and would love some outside perspective.

We’ve had the same cleaner for just over a year and she’s been fantastic, reliable, thorough, really kind and trustworthy. We’ve always got on well and I genuinely like her. But over the past few weeks, since the summer holidays started, she’s been bringing her 10 year old daughter with her when she comes to clean.

Her daughter isn’t badly behaved at all. She just sits quietly on the sofa in our living room watching things on an iPad. Sometimes I hear little giggles or the sound of whatever she’s watching, but she’s not running around or causing chaos or anything like that.

Still, I’m finding it awkward. I work from home and I’m usually upstairs on Zoom calls or writing reports, and it just feels a bit strange knowing there’s a child downstairs while her mum is hoovering or mopping the floors. I don’t have children myself and I suppose I’m not used to having someone else’s in my personal space. It changes the dynamic a bit and makes it feel less like a professional service. I also can’t help worrying about the what ifs - what if something broke or she hurt herself? Would I be responsible?

I completely understand that school holidays are a nightmare for working parents and childcare is expensive. I don’t want to be unsympathetic. I haven’t said anything to her yet because I don’t want to come across as precious or unkind. But equally I’m paying for a service and this isn’t what I signed up for.

AIBU to feel uncomfortable about this and consider raising it gently with her? Or should I just let it go for a few more weeks until the holidays are over? I want to be fair but I also feel a bit blindsided. Would love to know what others think.

OP posts:
redjeans28 · 03/08/2025 14:26

I would assume her other clients don't have an issue with her bringing her well behaved child to work so she has assumed you don't either...because really it's a non issue.

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:26

doitorleaveit · 03/08/2025 14:13

Exactly my point.

She's just a body doing a service. Might as well be a robot. That's how people think of cleaners etc. I personally don't. Op and perhaps you, do.

Just like anyone providing a service I wouldn't expect a hairdresser busdriver ,teacher ti bring their child to work either..

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 14:25

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 14:23

A poster isn't automatically a man just because they disagree with you.

So annoying isn’t it, any excuse to have a go at ‘men’ however tenuous a link.

doitorleaveit · 03/08/2025 14:25

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 14:22

if the cleaner is in the same situation as the woman in The Maid the social services should be involved. The story is set in the US where there is little social help.

It's the idea that people often don't think people who work for them (particularly in what are considered low skill roles) are human.

But, frankly, I wouldn't want a woman cleaning my home for four hours and fretting the entire way through about where her child is, or whether they are ok at home alone or some other alternative she is forced into that she clearly didn't want in the first place. Even if it were because I was being very selfish, I prefer people working for me to be happy! They tend to do a better job!

Welikebeingcosy · 03/08/2025 14:25

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 14:22

if the cleaner is in the same situation as the woman in The Maid the social services should be involved. The story is set in the US where there is little social help.

This isn't about social help it's about childcare costs..you don't know that the cleaner doesn't have an excess of 400 plus to pay on her rent from what UC will pay.....in the series/book she's working she actually has rent to pay subsidised by social help. the childcare issue is a huge theme through the book and series.

Namechange2700000 · 03/08/2025 14:25

Informercera · 03/08/2025 12:03

Thank you so much to everyone who’s replied - I didn’t expect this many responses and I’ve read every single one. It’s been really helpful to see things from different angles, even if I still feel a bit conflicted.

Just to clarify a few things that came up - no, she didn’t ask in advance if she could bring her daughter. The first time it happened I thought maybe it was a one-off emergency, so I didn’t say anything. But this has now happened three times in a row and I’m realising it may be the plan for the whole summer. Her daughter isn’t disruptive, but she is there for the full two hours and I do hear the iPad sometimes. It’s not loud, but it’s not silent either. More than anything it just changes the feel of things - it’s different having a child in the house, even if she’s well behaved.

I should also say that I really like my cleaner and trust her completely. She’s been brilliant over the past year and has even picked up on little things around the house that I’ve missed. I don’t want to upset her or make her feel like she’s done something terribly wrong, especially when I know childcare over the summer is expensive and hard to arrange.

At the same time, I think it’s reasonable to feel unsure about the boundaries here. I’m paying for a professional service, and it just feels a bit off having someone’s child sitting in my living room while I’m upstairs on work calls. I don’t have children myself, so maybe that’s part of why it’s feeling intrusive. I also worry about the what ifs - like if she had an accident or touched something fragile.

I’m going to speak to her, gently. I’ll try to keep it kind and non-confrontational - just say I’ve noticed her daughter’s been coming and that I do understand the challenges with childcare, but I wasn’t expecting to have someone else in the house and it’s made things feel a bit awkward. I’m hoping she’ll understand and maybe has an alternative arrangement lined up soon anyway.

😂

You will be looking for a new cleaner!

@Informercera How does a well behaved child, sitting on the sofa whilst you are in a completely different room change the dynamic?

I think you are BVU. If the cleaner has been with you for a year and they didn’t bring their child during half terms, Christmas etc something may have gone wrong. Not your problem, but not something to get worked up over when it’s what, 2-4 hours a week maximum?

BlankBlankBlank14 · 03/08/2025 14:25

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 14:19

She can look for another job. It will be easy because, as most people write here, it’s hard to find a good cleaner - obviously she’s not a good cleaner She won’t be asking the op for a reference as she didn’t ask before bringing her kid along.

Shouldn’t take her long to get another position, good cleaners hard to find. As OP says she goes above and beyond with her duties.

Viviennemary · 03/08/2025 14:25

It's not ideal. I had to entertain a three year old once. Lively so a complete waste of time but I think I would tolerate a 10 year old sitting quietly on a sofa.,

Someone2025 · 03/08/2025 14:24

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:18

Well apparently she hasent got two pennies two rub together according ti some posters so she not going to willingly lose clients is she?

She may have no choice if childcare costs more than she is being paid as a cleaner?!?

Also she could find another client who allows her to have her child there!

PinkTonic · 03/08/2025 14:24

spotddog · 03/08/2025 13:37

Cleaners charging £20-25 are usually agency supplied. Cleaners are paid minimum wage give or take.

Plumber, builder etc are not regularly in your house so you don’t really know them and might never see them again.

I would like to be asked first but cultural and language differences often makes it difficult for cleaners to approach this.
Be kind and understanding to a hard working mum.

My cleaner is paid £18 per hour direct, which is well above national living wage and a high hourly rate for unskilled work. If she had an emergency situation with childcare I would probably accommodate as a one off, but otherwise I would expect her to have it covered. I certainly wouldn’t be ok with her bringing her child along without asking. There’s always a lot of vitriol and batshittery directed at OPs who have the temerity to have a cleaner on here, but YANBU.

Cherrytree86 · 03/08/2025 14:23

The posters telling you to buy special drinks and snacks for child are a bit OTT, OP @Informercera

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 14:23

Justchilling07 · 03/08/2025 14:21

Oh goodness you’re so angry and aggressive!
Over this thread! get a grip.
That’s the thing with MN anyone can post, are you actually a woman, or just a very angry man.

A poster isn't automatically a man just because they disagree with you.

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:23

ASimpleLampoon · 03/08/2025 14:22

Electricians charge £90 call out fee. They can afford childcare.

How do you know the cleaner can't?

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:22

redjeans28 · 03/08/2025 14:18

I find it absolutely shocking that you have a problem with a well behaved child sitting on your sofa for a couple of hours. I hope when you have a 'gentle' word with your cleaner that she sacks you off because frankly you sounds really, really uptight. I can't even imagine trying to make someone's life even more difficult. Shame on you.

People need to decide on their narrative either she's a Penniless cleaner who can't afford childcare or she has tons of clients and csn pick and choose who she cleans for and therefor put her child in appropriate childcare.

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 14:22

doitorleaveit · 03/08/2025 14:14

Same! Recommended OP watch Maid, the Netflix series, didn't realise it was a book. Thank you

if the cleaner is in the same situation as the woman in The Maid the social services should be involved. The story is set in the US where there is little social help.

ASimpleLampoon · 03/08/2025 14:22

x2boys · 03/08/2025 10:53

So would posters be just as happy if a plumber,electrician, builder also brought their child to work🤔

Electricians charge £90 call out fee. They can afford childcare.

BlooodyKids · 03/08/2025 14:22

If she's a good cleaner and the kid behaves, it wouldn't bother me in the slightest. She should have asked you though.

DreamingOfALottoWin · 03/08/2025 14:21

You are 'paying for a service' AND you are still getting it

The child sits on the sofa and doesnt move.
The cleaner is nice amd you have no issues with her

I think you just crack on working from home or face losing a good trustworthy cleaner

Magicwand80 · 03/08/2025 14:21

The issue is she should ask. So that's the part that needs raising. I'm a single parent so I perhaps have more understanding of covering childcare. It's no excuse though not to ask you as its your house your rules OP.

In no other job can you just rock up to work with your child. I would ask her if everything is OK? How long has she been your cleaner for?

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 14:21

Pinkissmart · 03/08/2025 14:19

How disgusting, not Diego- weird autocorrect.

I assumed ‘Diego’ was some kind of street-talk for someone behaving like a crazy person!

Justchilling07 · 03/08/2025 14:21

Zov · 03/08/2025 13:26

Oh, yes, we mustn't forget BE KIND. Especially if you're a laydee. Women must support women after all, no matter how ridiculous any given woman is being, or how daft and cheeky her demands or behaviour. Funnily enough I don't just wilfully support someone because we both happen to have a vagina. 🙄

Oh goodness you’re so angry and aggressive!
Over this thread! get a grip.
That’s the thing with MN anyone can post, are you actually a woman, or just a very angry man.

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 14:20

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:13

She does have a choice the summer holidays are not a surprise they happen at the same time every year ,maybe if the cleaner is as poor as everyone is trying to imply she should look at booking her child into some HAF activities.

Edited

and she's cleaned OP's house for a year. What happened during the previous school holidays? Why is it suddenly an issue now?

If family childcare fell through for the summer holidays, it was up to her to say something to OP about it.

Welikebeingcosy · 03/08/2025 14:19

doitorleaveit · 03/08/2025 14:14

Same! Recommended OP watch Maid, the Netflix series, didn't realise it was a book. Thank you

The book is equally as good but in a totally different way. İt's less dazzling than the series but so raw and real and honest. I keep meaning to read her second one where she's getting through college as a single mum.

I just had a thought that perhaps all cleaners should incorporate the cost of childcare into their services, by the hour. There'd soon be a shortage of cheap services, so people like the OP would have no choice.

Pinkissmart · 03/08/2025 14:19

How disgusting, not Diego- weird autocorrect.

ButterCrackers · 03/08/2025 14:19

Rainallnight · 03/08/2025 14:11

I think this would be very unreasonable. You’re going to tell a mum with no affordable childcare options that it’s been ‘awkward’. What do you think her response is going to be?

She can look for another job. It will be easy because, as most people write here, it’s hard to find a good cleaner - obviously she’s not a good cleaner She won’t be asking the op for a reference as she didn’t ask before bringing her kid along.