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To think my cleaner shouldn’t bring her own child to work?

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Informercera · 03/08/2025 10:43

I’m really torn on this and would love some outside perspective.

We’ve had the same cleaner for just over a year and she’s been fantastic, reliable, thorough, really kind and trustworthy. We’ve always got on well and I genuinely like her. But over the past few weeks, since the summer holidays started, she’s been bringing her 10 year old daughter with her when she comes to clean.

Her daughter isn’t badly behaved at all. She just sits quietly on the sofa in our living room watching things on an iPad. Sometimes I hear little giggles or the sound of whatever she’s watching, but she’s not running around or causing chaos or anything like that.

Still, I’m finding it awkward. I work from home and I’m usually upstairs on Zoom calls or writing reports, and it just feels a bit strange knowing there’s a child downstairs while her mum is hoovering or mopping the floors. I don’t have children myself and I suppose I’m not used to having someone else’s in my personal space. It changes the dynamic a bit and makes it feel less like a professional service. I also can’t help worrying about the what ifs - what if something broke or she hurt herself? Would I be responsible?

I completely understand that school holidays are a nightmare for working parents and childcare is expensive. I don’t want to be unsympathetic. I haven’t said anything to her yet because I don’t want to come across as precious or unkind. But equally I’m paying for a service and this isn’t what I signed up for.

AIBU to feel uncomfortable about this and consider raising it gently with her? Or should I just let it go for a few more weeks until the holidays are over? I want to be fair but I also feel a bit blindsided. Would love to know what others think.

OP posts:
Theunamedcat · 03/08/2025 14:35

x2boys · 03/08/2025 10:53

So would posters be just as happy if a plumber,electrician, builder also brought their child to work🤔

In the 6 weeks holiday I would be fine with it because I know what it's like to work for nothing I had two children in childcare and it was costing me almost twice as much per hour as I was earning to put the kids in childcare I was working in minus figures then I was cleaning I took my youngest with me on some jobs while the eldest went to his friends he was good and helped me clean no-one had an issue

Movingonup313 · 03/08/2025 14:35

You ARE getting the service that you are paying for.

Child is sitting on the sofa.

My view is YABU. From your account, you are barely aware that the cleaners child is there.

Ive had various trades bring their children. Always well behaved and polite children.

The wee girl will remember doing this. Will remember accommodating her mums need to earn. Might respect her clothes/treats more. She will likely look up to you - someone who can afford regular paid help at home. Id make an effort. Make it memorable. Make her feel welcome. They is obviously no other support around. Dont be cold/hostile. Its a non-issue. She might well enjoy a 5 minute chat with you. You might enjoy it.

Good luck.

doitorleaveit · 03/08/2025 14:35

Maybe OP should just request the cleaner leaves her daughter on the pavement outside, or the doorstep, or the corridor, anywhere but out of sight!

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:34

redjeans28 · 03/08/2025 14:31

Oh for goodness sake. Pathetic.

How is it pathetic?
The cleaner is self employed she's not employed by the Op.

FluffyDiplodocus · 03/08/2025 14:34

YABU, if she’s a good cleaner and you’re otherwise happy, I’d definitely let this go! Fair enough if you were being disturbed by a younger child, but a calm older child sitting quietly and playing on an iPad I wouldn’t have an issue with. The only part you have a slight point with is the noise from the iPad, if it’s distracting you it would be reasonable to ask her to wear headphones if she has some.

DailyEnergyCrisis · 03/08/2025 14:33

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:29

If she left her daughter unsupervised that's her fault not the Ops.

Not the point of the post.

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:33

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 14:30

You’re splitting hairs. Whilst doing her job, the cleaner is working for the OP.

No she's not she is providing a service that the Op is paying for that, s very different to being the Ops employee.

redjeans28 · 03/08/2025 14:31

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:27

The cleaner work s for themselves not the Op.

Oh for goodness sake. Pathetic.

SouthLondonMum22 · 03/08/2025 14:31

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 03/08/2025 14:29

You're making it awkward.

"I’m going to speak to her, gently"

You are a ridiculous person..

I'd say that the cleaner made it awkward by just showing up with her child and not having a discussion with OP about it.

JMSA · 03/08/2025 14:31

victorianbaby · 03/08/2025 14:30

If she's really great and honest I would suck this up for the holidays.

She won’t 🙁

ThatLoudBear · 03/08/2025 14:31

Informercera · 03/08/2025 12:03

Thank you so much to everyone who’s replied - I didn’t expect this many responses and I’ve read every single one. It’s been really helpful to see things from different angles, even if I still feel a bit conflicted.

Just to clarify a few things that came up - no, she didn’t ask in advance if she could bring her daughter. The first time it happened I thought maybe it was a one-off emergency, so I didn’t say anything. But this has now happened three times in a row and I’m realising it may be the plan for the whole summer. Her daughter isn’t disruptive, but she is there for the full two hours and I do hear the iPad sometimes. It’s not loud, but it’s not silent either. More than anything it just changes the feel of things - it’s different having a child in the house, even if she’s well behaved.

I should also say that I really like my cleaner and trust her completely. She’s been brilliant over the past year and has even picked up on little things around the house that I’ve missed. I don’t want to upset her or make her feel like she’s done something terribly wrong, especially when I know childcare over the summer is expensive and hard to arrange.

At the same time, I think it’s reasonable to feel unsure about the boundaries here. I’m paying for a professional service, and it just feels a bit off having someone’s child sitting in my living room while I’m upstairs on work calls. I don’t have children myself, so maybe that’s part of why it’s feeling intrusive. I also worry about the what ifs - like if she had an accident or touched something fragile.

I’m going to speak to her, gently. I’ll try to keep it kind and non-confrontational - just say I’ve noticed her daughter’s been coming and that I do understand the challenges with childcare, but I wasn’t expecting to have someone else in the house and it’s made things feel a bit awkward. I’m hoping she’ll understand and maybe has an alternative arrangement lined up soon anyway.

Your cleaner was a CF for not asking you whether this would be okay. You don't just turn up to work with a kid in tow without asking your employer.
However, I think you'd be a bit of a prick to say she can't come for the rest of the hols. I'd say that she can come, despite the initial ill manners of not running it by you, but say the kid needs to use headphones for her iPad and that you need to be asked in advance for future holidays.

doitorleaveit · 03/08/2025 14:31

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:26

Just like anyone providing a service I wouldn't expect a hairdresser busdriver ,teacher ti bring their child to work either..

Agree with you. No to the bus driver if the child were sitting up in the cab. If the child is no the bus - I wouldn't mind at all. In fact, I've known bus drivers to do just this in the holidays. Ditto hairdressers.

I think the issue here is low compassion. Very very, extremely, low compassion, maybe perhaps driven by not knowing many people in these kinds of roles personally?

In any case, take care.

Magicwand80 · 03/08/2025 14:31

@DeLaRuiz that's quite an entitled view. I would mention it in a nice and respect manner. OP has every right to ask it is her house. The cleaner should of asked and checked with OP! She could be struggling and we don't know what's going on in her life.... still doesn't excuse not asking first does it? I wouldn't sack her but just check in type of conversation... "is everything ok I've noticed you've been bring DD along" that isn't unkind at all. OP doesn't have to walk on egg shells in her own home.

JMSA · 03/08/2025 14:30

You said in your OP that you were torn. Well, clearly that’s untrue.
I can’t imagine being so socially awkward that the presence of a well-behaved child in a different room bothers me so.

victorianbaby · 03/08/2025 14:30

If she's really great and honest I would suck this up for the holidays.

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 14:30

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:27

The cleaner work s for themselves not the Op.

You’re splitting hairs. Whilst doing her job, the cleaner is working for the OP.

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:29

DailyEnergyCrisis · 03/08/2025 14:28

If she needs the cash she’ll find a way to make stuff work (maybe even leave the little girl unsupervised at home), but next time you need her to go the extra mile for you I can’t see her gladly helping you out.

The quality of her work may well drop and the extra little details she’s been noticing will go unmentioned. This isn’t because she’s rubbish or unprofessional but because it’s been proven that you get that extra 10% raised discretional effort out of people when you treat them well.

If she left her daughter unsupervised that's her fault not the Ops.

ASimpleLampoon · 03/08/2025 14:29

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:23

How do you know the cleaner can't?

🙄

Hungrycaterpillarsmummy · 03/08/2025 14:29

Informercera · 03/08/2025 12:03

Thank you so much to everyone who’s replied - I didn’t expect this many responses and I’ve read every single one. It’s been really helpful to see things from different angles, even if I still feel a bit conflicted.

Just to clarify a few things that came up - no, she didn’t ask in advance if she could bring her daughter. The first time it happened I thought maybe it was a one-off emergency, so I didn’t say anything. But this has now happened three times in a row and I’m realising it may be the plan for the whole summer. Her daughter isn’t disruptive, but she is there for the full two hours and I do hear the iPad sometimes. It’s not loud, but it’s not silent either. More than anything it just changes the feel of things - it’s different having a child in the house, even if she’s well behaved.

I should also say that I really like my cleaner and trust her completely. She’s been brilliant over the past year and has even picked up on little things around the house that I’ve missed. I don’t want to upset her or make her feel like she’s done something terribly wrong, especially when I know childcare over the summer is expensive and hard to arrange.

At the same time, I think it’s reasonable to feel unsure about the boundaries here. I’m paying for a professional service, and it just feels a bit off having someone’s child sitting in my living room while I’m upstairs on work calls. I don’t have children myself, so maybe that’s part of why it’s feeling intrusive. I also worry about the what ifs - like if she had an accident or touched something fragile.

I’m going to speak to her, gently. I’ll try to keep it kind and non-confrontational - just say I’ve noticed her daughter’s been coming and that I do understand the challenges with childcare, but I wasn’t expecting to have someone else in the house and it’s made things feel a bit awkward. I’m hoping she’ll understand and maybe has an alternative arrangement lined up soon anyway.

You're making it awkward.

"I’m going to speak to her, gently"

You are a ridiculous person..

Welikebeingcosy · 03/08/2025 14:29

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:22

People need to decide on their narrative either she's a Penniless cleaner who can't afford childcare or she has tons of clients and csn pick and choose who she cleans for and therefor put her child in appropriate childcare.

Even if she has tonnes of options to choose from, there's only so many hours in the day she can work. Childcare will always take up a huge chunk of her wages no matter how many hours she does/how many clients she has because each hour would require an hour of childcare to be paid for.

DailyEnergyCrisis · 03/08/2025 14:28

If she needs the cash she’ll find a way to make stuff work (maybe even leave the little girl unsupervised at home), but next time you need her to go the extra mile for you I can’t see her gladly helping you out.

The quality of her work may well drop and the extra little details she’s been noticing will go unmentioned. This isn’t because she’s rubbish or unprofessional but because it’s been proven that you get that extra 10% raised discretional effort out of people when you treat them well.

Butchyrestingface · 03/08/2025 14:28

BakingMuffins · 03/08/2025 10:46

It’s a bit unfair on the child to be spending the summer sitting in clients houses.

She'd probably like her mum being on the dole even less.

I don't have kids either, OP, and I don't think I'd get worked up about a well-behaved 10 year old amusing herself, especially as it's only going to be a very temporary arrangement until she returns to school, surely?

x2boys · 03/08/2025 14:27

doitorleaveit · 03/08/2025 14:25

It's the idea that people often don't think people who work for them (particularly in what are considered low skill roles) are human.

But, frankly, I wouldn't want a woman cleaning my home for four hours and fretting the entire way through about where her child is, or whether they are ok at home alone or some other alternative she is forced into that she clearly didn't want in the first place. Even if it were because I was being very selfish, I prefer people working for me to be happy! They tend to do a better job!

The cleaner work s for themselves not the Op.

Joelz · 03/08/2025 14:27

You say you are going to "gently talk to her". If she is a good cleaner ( and I assume she is as you have been happy with her hitherto) then don't be surprised if she leaves you - she won't be short of work. Good cleaners are like gold dust.

I have had the same cleaner for 10 years. Her daughter is now 23, though when she was younger she often came with her mum. Her mum asked first, I said yes. The daughter would get a duster and follow her Mum round the house, She was very good too. Should she have been doing it ? Probably not. Did I mind ? No. I was actually quite impressed with what she was doing ! When she was a bit older ( 16 +) she"d come with her Mum and actually clean. I have watched her grow up. She is lovely with a tremendous work ethic. She put herself through University partly with the money she earnt through cleaning. She now earns a very good wage in a graduate job though when she comes back to see her Mum will still go out cleaning with her.

This isn't exactly like the situation you have, though it's not far from it. So, by all means, say something to your cleaner, but don't be surprised if your Cleaner drops you as a client.

Step5678 · 03/08/2025 14:26

DeLaRuiz · 03/08/2025 12:16

It isn’t kind though, even if you speak in a kind way, you aren’t being kind.

This. The kindest thing to do is to say nothing OP. The child is doing no harm and the cleaner is presumably working to the same standard as normal, so I'd say nothing

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