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Climbing Frame and Privacy

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HappyKite2067 · 03/08/2025 10:16

We don’t want to be ‘those neighbours’ but our neighbours have put a climbing frame for their children right next to our fence. We now constantly have little faces popping up over our (2m) fence and looking straight onto our patio area and into our kitchen.

Their garden is probably 4m x 6m at a push, so I think anywhere in the garden would probably intrude.

We really want children to make use of a garden, we don’t mind noise (and they are noisy!) and we don’t even mind the occasional ball being kicked over- but this is our privacy now.

Anyone been in this position before? I imagine they are unlikely to take down.

OP posts:
ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 19:50

🤔 Yeah, lots of suspect posters on this thread.

HappyKite2067 · 03/08/2025 19:46

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 19:07

It is when the expressed intention of that nakedness is to make children an audience to your nakedness...which is what these poster are suggesting/ laughing about. It's creepy, grotty behaviour.

Edited

I didn’t perceive any comments to be to creepy or gritty (maybe that’s a reflection of your thoughts), only about making it clear to parents that this is private property and it is their responsibility to monitor their children (if children are peering into others private property, that’s always a risk). Respect works both ways…we would never be naked in our garden as it would make others uncomfortable; and equally parents should consider how it might impact others before erecting climbing frames in tiny gardens.

OP posts:
AnSolas · 03/08/2025 19:46

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 19:07

It is when the expressed intention of that nakedness is to make children an audience to your nakedness...which is what these poster are suggesting/ laughing about. It's creepy, grotty behaviour.

Edited

Grotty behavior is also installing toys which have a negitive impact on the NDN

Basic good manners should have resulted in the privacy of the OP being respected and the parents putting up a higher privacy screen.

Pointing out that the OP can be naked is pointing out that the parents should remember that NDN has a right to a level of privacy in her property.

The parents have already made the choice to make the children an audience to anything the OP is doing

The children will not be able to move the frame nor add in a new fence thats the parents obligation.

And the OP is not going to do it anyway.

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 19:41

crunchermuncher · 03/08/2025 19:18

Ah, I well remember being yelled at by the neighbours as a kid for 'looking into their garden' from our climbing frame (We weren't, they were very boring, we were just playing).

That was 40 odd years ago and i remember it like it was yesterday (plus it didn't stop us; in fact it emboldened us to sit at the top with copies of the beano with comedy holes in held in front of our faces, ostentatiously 'not looking' at the neighbour. We weren't looking at all until she kicked off).

Please don't be those people. Speak politely to the parents if it becomes a problem but honestly you're probably not that interesting to next door's kids!

Best thing to do is smile and say hello to the children and ignore any cheek, they soon get bored.

Aspanielstolemysanity · 03/08/2025 19:22

It may be a breach of planning position, I can't remember the rules exactly

crunchermuncher · 03/08/2025 19:18

Ah, I well remember being yelled at by the neighbours as a kid for 'looking into their garden' from our climbing frame (We weren't, they were very boring, we were just playing).

That was 40 odd years ago and i remember it like it was yesterday (plus it didn't stop us; in fact it emboldened us to sit at the top with copies of the beano with comedy holes in held in front of our faces, ostentatiously 'not looking' at the neighbour. We weren't looking at all until she kicked off).

Please don't be those people. Speak politely to the parents if it becomes a problem but honestly you're probably not that interesting to next door's kids!

Pinkgiraffe34567 · 03/08/2025 19:17

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 13:54

Both kinds of bamboo spread but the clumping bamboo spreads at a slower pace. Either way it can become a problem. The best way around it is to grow in very large pots with a metal plate under each pot as the bamboo can break through plastic saucers/plates.

Thanks I have some large ceramic pots I need to fill, I might try this!

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 19:07

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 17:26

Doing gardening naked in their own back garden behind a fence isn't "exposing themselves to children"

It is when the expressed intention of that nakedness is to make children an audience to your nakedness...which is what these poster are suggesting/ laughing about. It's creepy, grotty behaviour.

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 17:26

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 14:39

It's completely creepy how many people think exposing themselves to children is the answer to this problem.

Doing gardening naked in their own back garden behind a fence isn't "exposing themselves to children"

YourJoyousDenimExpert · 03/08/2025 17:13

Definitely bamboo (but in pots else it will take over)

minipie · 03/08/2025 16:59

Think yourself lucky OP… our NDN have the same, but also their best friends live behind us - so not only do they climb up and look into our garden and kitchen but they also yell loudly to their mates behind us to see if they are free to come over. Quite often the two sets of kids climb back and forth between the two gardens, basically across the corner of our garden. I wouldn’t mind so much if they were quiet about it but they’re not 😟

OhHellolittleone · 03/08/2025 16:34

HappyKite2067 · 03/08/2025 10:24

I think we can if it’s within 2m of a boundary line?

What makes you think that?

Shesellsseashellsnotinmystreet · 03/08/2025 16:32

Garden sail? 3m sun umbrella angled at the fence?

AnSolas · 03/08/2025 16:04

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 14:39

It's completely creepy how many people think exposing themselves to children is the answer to this problem.

Why?

The parents are risking the children seeing what their NDN are doing when they choose to allow their children to be able to see over the privacy fence.

There is a reasonable expectation to have privacy in the OPs home and to a lesser extent in the OPs back garden. Sometimes the privacy is establised by the conduct of the NDNs.

Respecting that as far as possible is part of the social contract of Urban living. The NDN decided that the OPs privacy was not important and that their children can take their chances as what the children see.

It could be the OP or her family/friends going about their daily business in a wholesome way. Or that they may be being naked, or having sex on the kitche table, or watching sex on a massive TV screen or just having a glass of wine in the garden without feeling like a Zoo exhibit.

The parenting remains the responsibility of the NDN.

And lets all be honest
The OP is a "nice NDN" because if she was creepy and likely to ever expose herself for sexual pleasure there is no way that NDN would even dream of putting up a climbing frame.

Climbingrosexx · 03/08/2025 15:34

Someone mentioned bamboo which is a great idea, it grows like crazy and you will have privacy in no time, just be prepared to keep on top of it though as it grows really fast

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 14:59

Bumblebee72 · 03/08/2025 14:56

Get a water pistol and squirt them each time their annoying little heads pop up.

Are you mad? This sounds like great entertainment for the summer holidays, the kids would love that.

Bumblebee72 · 03/08/2025 14:56

Get a water pistol and squirt them each time their annoying little heads pop up.

Thanksman · 03/08/2025 14:45

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 14:39

It's completely creepy how many people think exposing themselves to children is the answer to this problem.

Comes up in Every. Single. Thread pertaining to privacy. Not remotely funny.

ThePhantomoftheEcobubbleOpera · 03/08/2025 14:39

It's completely creepy how many people think exposing themselves to children is the answer to this problem.

ASimpleLampoon · 03/08/2025 14:35

Take up naturism they'll soon stop.

PassOnThat · 03/08/2025 14:33

Collapsible rectangular fan awning on the top of your fence is what you need. You can fold it out when the kids are on the climbing frame and retract it when they're not.

Tbh you could pretty much make one yourself. Nail some tarp to two timber battens and attach a couple of brackets to your fence. If the kids are annoying you, just unfold the tarp and pop the timber battens in the brackets.

Dheops · 03/08/2025 14:32

It's much the same living next to a house with a trampoline - little faces popping up over the fence every few seconds. I don't think this is something you can really police beyond the usual asking parents to steer them away. Some people are more consider neighbours than others, so it's worth trying to talk to them, but I don't think a climbing frame counts as a building so I wouldn't exert energy on official channels.

We had neighbours who let their kids climb onto their garage roof and sit there swearing at us, so I get how annoying it is.

You could also look at one of those giant umbrellas or sails that you might be able to mount between your boundary and the patio, to block their view. It's all about the angles.

Wingedharpy · 03/08/2025 14:31

The time to worry is when the Mum and Dad start using the climbing frame.

TheNinkyNonkyIsATardis · 03/08/2025 14:24

HappyKite2067 · 03/08/2025 11:01

I’m just not sure what the solution would be…feels as though there is no compromise. They either take it down, we put up with it or we spend money creating more privacy! I suppose we could ask for a split in the cost for plants etc but it feels a little strange!

Well they could b very strict with heir kids to just climb and not bother the neighbours?

My son and next door's little girl love to chat and climb up to see each other over the fence, and they do have playdates, but the merest whisper of her parents wanting her in the house and I take my son away, same on the other side.

AnSolas · 03/08/2025 14:22

Loubylie · 03/08/2025 13:51

I agree with the trellis suggestion. Or bamboo ... as long as it is a non-invasive kind like Fargesia. It's worth spending a bit if money on this if you can afford to. It's an investment. A beautiful private garden makes a house much more desirable. And your can't rely on your menfolk not to wimp out of the naked gardening come the autumn.

Just need to put a hat on.......🙊