Volunteering with asylum seekers and refugees

I did no such thing. Never heard of or used the generic “you”?

It is all about me actually, when you're addressing me directly and putting words in my mouth.

@BlossomtoesI haven’t seen anyone here blaming illegal immigration solely for our economic woes but the estimated £4- £8 bn annual cost
(and isn’t it terrible that the UK can’t even accurately calculate this figure?) sure isn’t helping. Let alone the impact on social cohesion.

I was talking societally. It’s not all about you. Although it’s interesting that your personal focus is on immigrants when pensions cost many multiples more.

What on earth are you going on about? Try to read what is written, I said nothing about pensioners or disabled people or anybody else.

The IMF are paying close attention, and can see the writing on the wall. We’re replaying the 1970s at this point - except we’re in a much worse state now. The question is not if, it’s when.

Until 2006 my tax was repaying the debt for a war that ended nearly a decade before I was born. It’s how government spending works. It’s not support for immigrants that’s caused our economic woes - the national debt rose steadily through the austerity that was supposed to pay it down, then went through the roof with Covid. But you keep othering - it’s immigrants, it’s pensioners, it’s sick and disabled people. Who will you blame next?

@BlossomtoesThe OBR predicts that UK debt could rise to 310% of GDP within 50 years based on current trends while government borrowing rose by £6.6bn to £20.7 bn in the last year alone. We are definitely on the road to bankruptcy unless things change.

Very well said. Our great grandchildren are going to be paying for the largess and unending benevolence of these people. They have absolutely no morale right to advocate for saddling unborn generations with yet more debt and giving their country away.

As of the latest available data, the UK's national debt, measured as public sector net debt excluding public sector banks, was £2.87 trillion in June 2025, equivalent to approximately 96.3% of GDP.

In 2025/26, the UK is projected to spend £111.2 billion on servicing its national debt, equivalent to about 3.7% of GDP.

Your response is absurd.

You can say whatever you like. That doesn’t make it true.

@Blossomtoes immigration to the UK has risen from an average annual figure of just 7,800 between 1951 - 2001 to a figure almost 100 times that in recent years. Surely the rise of an analysis of “net contributors” is in response to this astonishing increase and the potentially related economic issues rather than anything “pernicious”?

What all of them? They’re all doctors and engineers are they?

Given we're almost bankrupt as a country, I'd say it is far from pernicious.

you didn't answer the question - presumably asylum seekers fleeing the countries where their lives are in danger, so the choice for them to is to die there or in the sea, with a slim chance of making it safely to the UK. I'd assume that women and children are in the same danger as men. Why men are coming here alone then? aren't they concerned about leaving their families there? presumably these women and children left behind will be prosecuted for being a family of a runner?

I'd imagine they realise that authorities would be more compassionate to children?

Or is this situation more nuanced than some people are willing to admit?

Having a strong in-group preference is not a bad thing. Minority cultures in the UK have it in spades. It is also a core feature in most animals, especially mammals.

Why do you think it is a bad thing for the indigenous Europeans?

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You cannot have porous borders and generous non-contributory benefits.

There are so many people on here who think they are morallly superior but are woefully ignorant on economic issues and think we can just increase taxes for whoever is earning more than them to solve all of life's problems.

@NidaNearby

Well said!

We cannot afford the obligations we have, and yet we are adding more people who will be massive drains on the system over the course of their lifetimes. This will ultimately undermine and lead to the failure of our welfare state - helped along the way by do gooders like you who tried to shut down all conversation about this problem because you felt it was ‘pernicious.’ I hope the moral righteousness keeps you warm in your eighties when there’s no state pension.

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@itchybritchesand of course so many Muslims aren’t calling their son variations of “Muhammad” because they are “boring or unoriginal”. It is to signify their religious devotion.

There are more ways of contributing than money. This concept of “net contributors” that’s suddenly shown up over the last couple of years is pernicious.

I doubt you are alone on this particular horse, for a start many took in Ukrainians into their homes, did you?

We are not unkind as a nation. Women still care about safety and reports of a 12 year old who was raped will concern most. Sort out border control and you’ll see the unrest go down.

I too am feeling powerless and threatened by a cultural change that I'm deeply concerned about.

As a child, I was taught that we should be caring and compassionate towards people in need and that we should do what we can to help them. I was also taught to be tolerant and open-minded towards those who were different from me. These lessons came not only from my parents, but from my school and from the other adults around me etc. While there were always people who failed to live up to those societal ideals, they were generally accepted as things to which we should all aspire. I remember reflecting with some pride on the culture that actively promoted those values when I first found myself in a society which clearly did not share them.

These days, the values that were passed on to me as a child are rapidly fading from British society. Compassion and tolerance are increasingly seen as weaknesses. I mourn the loss of the culture that I grew up with but I guess I have to accept that society moves on and changes.

That’s still a core cultural change and it’s still factually the most popular male baby name in the Uk. It is linked to Islam. Nothing I’ve said is incorrect.