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Volunteering with asylum seekers and refugees

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Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 10:09

There is so much said on MN about asylum seekers and refugees, and often it is speaking about them as a block, rather than by people who know any as individuals.

AIBU to suggest that some of you who currently feel fear and hostility have a go at some volunteering to get to know one or more individuals and see if your feelings change?

There are lots of ways to get involved in helping welcome a refugee to the country, and maybe more people extending more welcome will help with intergration, which seems to be one of the main concerns of some posters.

Many places have volunteers facilitating english conversation sessions, or literacy support. Many councils look for volunteers to support refugee and asylum seeker children in schools, you can ask your local council, or one of the main refugee organisations what volunteering opportunities are available in your area.

Also volunteering with any homeless charity is ineviatably going to bring you into contact with refugees, as so many are sleeping rough

You can find out about people first hand, rather than through the right wing press. Personal relationships can only help people understand each other better

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skymagentatwo · 03/08/2025 17:00

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 16:59

You are free to interpret it as you please, of course.

Thanks I don't need your virtuous signal bless though.

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 16:59

skymagentatwo · 03/08/2025 16:58

We all know what you mean, its in the Starmer playbook.

You are free to interpret it as you please, of course.

Pinkelephantridesagain · 03/08/2025 16:58

It's not about fear hostility or racism
It's huge changes to the areas of where people live , with massive influxes of men
It's not enough houses for people already living here
It's not enough money in UK to support the families they want to bring over
As much as we might want to
We can't help everyone
We should be choosing who we help like the children from Gaza
Not rewarding men who arrive illegally

skymagentatwo · 03/08/2025 16:58

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 16:57

I know what I meant, thank you. I stand by what I said.

We all know what you mean, its in the Starmer playbook.

ParmaVioletTea · 03/08/2025 16:58

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 10:19

If you vote IABU, please explain why you think it is unreasonable to get to know someone from this group that people seem to fear so much, and build up an individual relationship to get to know the situation from someone else's point of view? As well as supporting someone with a need that you can help out with, which is very satisfying in itself. Why would you not want to do that?

I haven’t voted but I think that some issues concerning refugees and /or illegal immigrants are about the rights of a nation state to control who enters and lives in that country.

Those who want to migrate legally, or even just work here for a limited number of years, face quite stringent application procedures.

There are questions about resourcing an increase in new citizens. There are questions about ensuring that new citizens are not criminals.

Yes, getting to know the individual stories of refugees is very enlightening but there are legitimate policy issues beyond individuals.

Note - I am very much not anti- immigrant. But I do think it needs to be a controlled process which is publicly discussed.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 16:57

skymagentatwo · 03/08/2025 16:56

Funnily enough I don't see these racist and xenophobic comments as MN moderators would be removing them pretty fast.

What you actually mean is that there are more and more people whom disagree with your views and so you want them silenced with labels.

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It’s tedious.

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 16:57

skymagentatwo · 03/08/2025 16:56

Funnily enough I don't see these racist and xenophobic comments as MN moderators would be removing them pretty fast.

What you actually mean is that there are more and more people whom disagree with your views and so you want them silenced with labels.

Edited

I know what I meant, thank you. I stand by what I said.

SumUp · 03/08/2025 16:57

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 03/08/2025 13:03

Because I don’t speak Arabic, Pashtun, Somali or any other non European language, and judging from the few interchanges I have heard Very few of the arrivals speak more than a few words of English or any European language . So I would have to have an interpreter, which would render my involvement rather expensive and probably ineffective.

Just use google translate on your phone. Or maybe that’s too complex for you.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 16:56

DiscoBob · 03/08/2025 16:49

I was referring to people who are very anti migrants/asylum seekers. That it's unlikely they'll wish to volunteer in such a capacity.

I don't care what other people do with their spare time as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

I think it’s a way to get people going about xenophobia and racism and the asylum issue. Some feel better calling others those names and nothing much else happens.

Jennps · 03/08/2025 16:56

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 12:49

why is it patronising? Please explain what is patronising about the suggestion? it would help people get to know each other. It just seems a way to break down the barriers. personal relationships and working towards a shared goal benefits everyone. It doesn't have to be either/or, does it? Some people do very little voluntry service, and could start with this, some people already do a lot, but could perhaps extend a little, and as I said, some areas of voluntry work such as helping run night shelters for the homeless help both the local population, and refugees, many of whom are sleeping rough

Someone needs to do the Heimlich maneuver on OP. She’s choking on the therapy self help book she’s swallowed.

skymagentatwo · 03/08/2025 16:56

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 16:50

Probably. There are a lot of racist and xenophobic comments on the site nowadays.

Funnily enough I don't see these racist and xenophobic comments as MN moderators would be removing them pretty fast.

What you actually mean is that there are more and more people whom disagree with your views and so you want them silenced with labels.

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 16:55

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 03/08/2025 16:54

Honestly don’t care to know the ‘difference’

None of them here, please

My point proved I think.

OnlyMabelInTheBuilding · 03/08/2025 16:54

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 15:59

It's high time people learned the definition of
Asylum seekers
Economic migrants
Refugees

before throwing around terms like "illegals".

Honestly don’t care to know the ‘difference’

None of them here, please

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 03/08/2025 16:54

In Liverpool the organisation that supports asylum seekers holds events such as sharing food or beach clean ups. It’s a good way for asylum seekers and locals to meet.

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 16:53

DiscoBob · 03/08/2025 16:49

I was referring to people who are very anti migrants/asylum seekers. That it's unlikely they'll wish to volunteer in such a capacity.

I don't care what other people do with their spare time as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

That seems quite obvious to me.

Jennps · 03/08/2025 16:53

Awww OP, would you like your badge from the audience on here or do you make your own?

You know, after you have done your good deed of the day, lecturing, patronizing and virtue signalling on the internet.

Lemniscate8 · 03/08/2025 16:52

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 16:46

Who are you referring to here? Anyone who doesn’t volunteer as the op thinks they should

There aren't any people "who are not volunteering as I think they should" . I suggested that SOME people CONSIDER it, if you read my OP, and from the response on here, some people are, which is great. Obviously not everyone is in a position to, and obviously there are some people with incompatible politics, but the more people who consider it, and the more people get involved, the more bridges are built, and the better intergration happens, and the better for everyone

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AuntyDepressant · 03/08/2025 16:52

I voted you are being unreasonable.

My feelings towards thousands of fighting age men crossing the channel in dinghies fleeing war torn France in fear of their lives while leaving all their women and children behind to suffer is unlikely to change.

ilovesooty · 03/08/2025 16:50

DiscoBob · 03/08/2025 16:42

I've nothing against asylum seekers personally, but it's a bit naive to tell a load of racists to spend their time for free helping the people they purport to despise.

Probably. There are a lot of racist and xenophobic comments on the site nowadays.

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 03/08/2025 16:49

BellissimoGecko · 03/08/2025 16:47

Are you talking about asylum seekers and refugees who come into the country legally, or those who come in illegally?

my answer would be different for each group. 🤷🏻

Asylum seekers all arrive legally.
it’s the only way to claim asylum - by arriving by any means to the uk- then claim asylum.

DiscoBob · 03/08/2025 16:49

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 16:46

Who are you referring to here? Anyone who doesn’t volunteer as the op thinks they should

I was referring to people who are very anti migrants/asylum seekers. That it's unlikely they'll wish to volunteer in such a capacity.

I don't care what other people do with their spare time as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

LakieLady · 03/08/2025 16:49

Dontwasteyourbreath · 03/08/2025 16:27

You are wasting your time op. I worked with asylum seekers for years. Primarily young men and I worked alone, often visiting HMOs. I had no issues at all. Well, that’s not true actually, I got fat! Because for many, culturally, it is hospitable to cook for visitors, so I’d visit 6 properties in a day and be given six meals. Properties occupied by 6-10 men, 18-25 yrs old, were immaculate, everyone was polite and I never once felt unsafe.
Many people don’t understand that asylum seekers aren’t allowed to work. They absolutely should be and they do want to, but for some reason I simply don’t understand, we don’t let them.
In contrast, in a different role, visiting white British people in their own homes, I’ve been spat on, called a cunt more times than I can count, had my car vandalised, my purse stolen and been attacked with a hammer.

I've found similar back in the days when my work involved home visits.

Romani families were always very hospitable, too.

BellissimoGecko · 03/08/2025 16:47

Are you talking about asylum seekers and refugees who come into the country legally, or those who come in illegally?

my answer would be different for each group. 🤷🏻

Pinkfluffypencilcase · 03/08/2025 16:47

Insertfootnote · 03/08/2025 16:31

I have no time for middle class liberals who say oh just get to know them and blame everything on the right wing press. I'm the trustee of a charity working with vulnerable local people and live in an area that is 80% non-white British, with huge numbers of refugees, asylum seekers and their wider families. Crime has gone through the roof, women are regularly harassed, and a woman was raped by an asylum seeker just round the corner from me.

The streets are covered in litter, men congregate on street corners and spit or urinate where they please. I rarely hear English spoken and via the charity all I hear are demands for more - expectations for a house, money, health care, schooling for their many children etc. They get established then bring over a huge extended family.

Wake up OP and stop patronising us. It is not racist to want our borders closed. Let them claim asylum in one of the many safe countries they went through to get here.

The majority do claim asylum in the first country they get to. Compare numbers for Pakistan and Turkey. Globally they are in the highest takers of asylum seekers.

EasternStandard · 03/08/2025 16:46

DiscoBob · 03/08/2025 16:42

I've nothing against asylum seekers personally, but it's a bit naive to tell a load of racists to spend their time for free helping the people they purport to despise.

Who are you referring to here? Anyone who doesn’t volunteer as the op thinks they should